Watching/Reacting to Larryzaur’s “Basically, Which job to play Shadowbringers” video on FFXIV Jobs. I can’t quite decide between two possible options! Help me decide!!
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tbf, if you are torn between samurai and summoner, just start as a summoner (archanist).
you cannot start straight up out from char creation with a samurai cuz its from a later expansion, and you will be given an option later on to pick up any job and level them anytime you wish
the early stages of summoner is just a variation of twerking carbuncles too, so enjoy while you can xD
also quick tip: never try to level stuff at once, always keep one job ahead so you get an exp bonus for the lower level jobs
Summoner's Carbuncle is just a non combat pet these days. It doesn't actually "do" anything. They used to hit things but now they're kinda just there
From a omni 90 : Based on your initial description on what you wanted to play I would lead you towards Monk, Ninja Reaper. They have dots, monk and ninja are more difficult to play but they describe the spinning plate idea better than reaper since reaper is very simple in its rotation building up a guage to spend it on enshroud (reaper form). Dragoon and Samurai have self buffing timers you keep up that work like dots but only apply to you. Bard is only job with two dots and you may find some mileage there. MCH is like if bard and gunbreaker had a baby, just run around spamming your abilities, veryu good feel and damage from a ranged job. Summoner is something you should play but you will find out its very very easy however the rotation gets boring since its mostly A-B-C repeat. The easier jobs are better to learn fights on but the harder ones feel way more rewarding when you master the complexities. I tend to play reaper to learn fights then once I have it down I switch to samurai ninja, or blackmage, where execution really matters. hope that helps a little.
I recommend JoCat's Crap Guides. They're reasonably informative and highly entertaining.
Word of advice I would recommend samurai, it’s been my main for thousands of hours and has a high skill ceiling and never gets boring for me personally, summoner is aesthetically pleasing but gets boring very quickly from my experience and from what I’ve heard from my friends so go with Sam imo
Just a side note but the video from larryzaur is great, but it's also from the last expansion, so some things have changed and there are also 2 new jobs in the game now.
You should also check Jocat's crap guides to ffxiv if you are looking for more info.
Also why not play both SAM and SMN since you can play all the jobs in 1 character.
As everyone has said you dont have to choose a single main here, I tend to have a main for every single Job type. Tank I main paladin, healing I main white mage, melee I main samurai, ranged I main machinist, and magic I main summoner. Of course melee and magic might change next expansion pending on what they announce as jobs soon.
Go for Arcanist (leveling it gives you both Smn a dps and Sch a healer to swap between). I also encourage giving Warrior a try in the future, tanking is very easy in Ffxiv and Warrior us basically a dps job with a tank stance buff.
Spinny plates would be ninja, or bard, seeing him like samurai, and as a sam main i think he’d like it too
dude … just stop compare these two games … loll .. none of the FF jobs are NEAR compared to the classes in wow. just play the game…lol
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Ninja is definitely trickier than a good number of the other jobs, but it has some tricks and small details to make it easier to understand. The handsigns, for instance, can be better understood by what hansign you end on rather than what specific order you press them. Take the AoE puddle of dirt, you can either do Ten-Jin-Chi or Jin-Ten-Chi, as long as its 3 signs ending in Chi. So theres some flexibility and wiggle room, but it will still be a lot to remember
I firmly believe you’re making a sound decision with starting as a DPS before trying tank and healing roles, I did all of the MSQ as Black Mage before I went to Dark Knight. What really matters is finding what works for you.
FFXIV jobs are surprisingly well balanced. There are no "bad" jobs, but some do have an advantage. It's more about personal preferences and play style. The only one to be careful of is Black Mage.
Just found this randomly. Did he recently watch this video? As a Monk main, this video is outdated. Monks haven't had greased lightning in a while. They've changed quite a bit since then. They do still have posititionals though. It's not the most popular class, but it's my favorite, mainly because I just like classes that fight with their fists, lol.
Welcome to the game!
So, while it starts/you can pick it up at level 70, I think Reaper might hit (maybe not all but a lot of) the vibes and playstyle that you're looking for. SAM might hit your serotonin but keep Reaper in mind for the future.
"if im trying to learn bosses…" I think you'll be fine on Ninja unless you dive into very difficult content. You will have all the easy content to learn to play. On all jobs, you will have to map your big CDs to specific spots in the fight for min/maxing.
SMN is about rotating through the summons, which you can almoat consider "stances" as they change your main DPS GCD and oGCD ability. You can control the order of the stances, so end game is about using the different utilities of each summon at the optimal time for min/max.
Good luck reading all the quest text, but dont feel bad if you give up on that. The story is good in retrospect. Many people who watch atreamers play are watching to see things they missed the first time around. They also really overhype the game to varying degrees that hits streamers differently. What i mean, is some feel like waiting for the mic to drop dyring the MSQ, but it does, thereby overlooking a bit of story that was well written or interesting just not necessarily haw dropping, especially without more context. But there are mic drop moments! So my advice is to chill through the story and try not to let chat hype you up. I notice streamers enjoy the story more when they try to make predictions or judge characters. E.g. "Bob is such a twerp." Then, you can appreciate the the character growth or the vindication you feel when Bob turns out to be a fucking little shit. Personally, i didnt read all the quest text until Shadowbringers, as the writing quality improced by then a lot, and i was genuinely intrigued by the story. This does require me to brush up details on the wiki for specific Stormblood stuff that gets referenced in Endwalker, but honestly yhe only people who catch the references are mega lore fans.
Anyhoo, take in the good, leave out the bad. Have fun!
One thing to add when/if you get to end game. Of course, in the meantime play anything and everything.
Reaper and Dragoon share gear.
Monk and Samurai share gear.
Ninja and the new job in Dawntrail will share gear.
All phys ranged shar gear.
All caster DPS share gear. (Tho, BiS may be different because BLM typically goes Spellspeed).
There are serious criticisms fir 14's endgame gearing. Its entirely feasible and reasonable to gear up one job to BiS, but you will run into issues if you want to kevel more jobs. The raiding community have been critical of this and we hope for system changes for Dawntrail.
This will not apply to you until like Fall of 2024, because by the the time you get to end game the weekly lockout will likely be gone.
DPS first is definitely a good choice. It gives you the chance to learn the dungeons and fights without the weight of responsibility. Samurai is hella satisfying and once you learn it, you can easily just go on autopilot and focus on other things you want to learn from the fight, like mechanics.
Summoner is a fun Caster DPS, especially at higher levels imo. Very flashy.
The glorious thing about starting with Arcanist, which is what you need for unlocking Summoner, is that you get a Healer job for FREE. Scholar and Summoner both branch off of Arcanist (it's the only pairing in the game like this) so even if what you're doing is leveling Summoner, if you ever decide to try your hand at Shield Healing, you already have a leveled Scholar to unlock and do the quests for!
But yeah, Summoner is on my short list of favorite jobs to play alongside Red Mage, White Mage, Machinist, Dancer, Reaper, Gunbreaker, and Warrior.
The best guides are from Jocat in his "crap guides to Final Fantasy" they're satirical summaries of the roles and jobs, but are also really good
Edit: Pro Tip: at levels 50, 60, 70, and 90 do the Hildebrand quest line, they are some of the best writing and animation that really shows what the engine can do(also it's a test bed for new techniques and technology).
if you Tank type
i recomended play as Warrior or Paladin
sure Dark Knight its cool Af
but still its a Double Edge Knife
either you lose your health for nothing
or you lose your health for big output damage
Good news: the dmg buff of SMN is now centered around you and not the Carbuncle, meaning you can cast it anytime you want – just make sure you're positioned in the center and everyone gets the buff 🙂
Larry's job videos are still some of the best on youtube. Sadly he has discontinued his FF14 in favor of a personal project so there probably wont come any new guides. I'm just saying this because his older videos, though super entertaining, arent accurate representations of the jobs anymore: there have been too many changes, and some jobs have been completely overhauled (link MNK).
Since you limit your choice down to Samurai or Summoner, I'll just give very brief input on those 2.
– Samurai sadly only unlocks until you have a level 50 class/job. Free trial extended to Stormblood so you actually have Samurai unlocked also even without purchasing the game. Larry's video says enough, I can't say more besides it has even more hard hitting abilities lol
– Summoner does get the rework, and starts as the 'upgrade'/job version of the Arcanist class. So if you like it, this is the one you can level first. Someone also already pointed out, levelling 'arcanist'/summoner also levels scholar aka a healer. This is an old concept they do, but if you like SMN, you just get SCH for free at endgame. Just have to go back and do job quests to unlock a lot of their higher levelled skills, less natural than SMN whose job quest you pick up as a SMN then get the skills that way.
Why choose when you can have ALL OF THEM! MUAHAHAHAHA
Welcome to Eorzea!
You are gonna have a blast fighting the bosses in FFXIV. The Raids and the Extremes can be brutal! Especially if you are blind, or use minimum iLvL.
Even I don't mess with Ultimate fights, as they are insanely difficult.
You're gunna get a ton of MSQ-andies here telling you not to rush and to do this and don't skip this and that.
Play how you wanna play. Fuck all the advice.
I've played FFXIV for 10 years. I love it. There's lulls, bad stuff ofc (personally i think the current expac is one of our worst) but the combat, raids, ultimates etc all super fun!
Have a great time!
You should try Guild Wars 2
2 things: (1) You can try every job (2) You were watching a vedio about Shadowbringers, the previous expansion. Most is still accurate, but doublechecking an Endwalker video would help. I wonder if Reaper would be up your alley?
A lot of things changed with Endwalker, so probably better to watch a video with that instead of Shadowbringers.