FFXIV Dawntrail: Initial Thoughts on Level 100 Sage



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Here are my first impressions for Sage (SGE) at level 100! Healing in FFXIV Dawntrail!

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Intro 0:00
Initial Overview – 0:17
Sage’s Role – 0:44
Double Shield Comp: 2:24
Psyche – 3:58
Philosophia – 4:40
Soteria and Physis II – 7:40
Haima and Panhaima – 8:34
Overview – 9:01

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23 thoughts on “FFXIV Dawntrail: Initial Thoughts on Level 100 Sage”

  1. I agree with you about these changes, only that I don't want them to homogenize panhaima. I think making the jobs more diverse is a good thing and I hope SE continues to do that, giving each job something unique

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  2. I'm new to healers and could use a bit of advice. How do you guys keep your 1 key from wearing out? Mine is already faded beyond the point of recognition since I've started and I'd like to do something about it.

    I was thinking of buying a foot pedal and macroing it to that key and playing with that. That way at least my keyboard (specificlly just one key really) won't get worn out and broken. It'll also let me get deeper sleep whenever I run dungeons since it'll be easier to press.

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  3. Hey Momo! I've been enjoying the Dawntrail content, but I must say I don't quite get why you consider Seraphism to be so much stronger than Philosophia.
    Visually and creatively it is of course the much more interesting ability, no arguments there, but powerwise I feel like they are extremely similar. Sorry if this comment comes across as ranty or hostile, but I feel like you're making a bit of an unfair comparison regarding their use cases. I feel like you are putting too much emphasis on Philosophia as a better Kardia, and overlooking how it competes with Seraphism's output if both are forced to gcd heal (which is the only situation you'd use Seraphism)

    To begin with, their main effects are essentially the same two things:
    1. Increase your gcd healing by 20% (Accession and Manifestation are just 20% stronger Succor and Adlo, respectively)
    2. Grant a regen-like effect to heal the party without using healing gcd's (100p regen vs 150p "Kardia")

    You say Eudaimonia has potential to overheal when it's not needed due to the necessity to roll your gcd for dps, but isn't that even more true of the Seraphism's regen effect, which you have NO control over? At the same time, Eudaimonia heals for 50% more, and will of course also heal more often than the regen ticking every 3 seconds (assuming you're rolling the gcd of course). Furthermore, you say Seraphism works well because healing gcd's are expected to be timed well. But Eudaimonia also procs on those healing gcd's, essentially functioning like a Plenary and adding a flat 150 potency to each gcd (which somewhat makes up for E.Prog being 100 potency under Succor by default). Isn't that just more healing per GCD than scholar can put out, even with Seraphism active?

    Seraphism obviously has 2 unique effects over Philosophia: Instant gcd heals for the duration (which are baseline for Sage shields), and no cooldown on Emergency tactics. While this is strong, I feel like this is only advantageous over Sage if you somehow require an absolutely massive amount of healing and there is also no concurrent damage to break shields between the casts. In that situation, Sage would be forced to spam normal Prognosis due to Pepsis not being spammable or buffed by Philosophia, which obviously is nowhere near the output Scholar can do with Emergency Manifestation. Is this a situation you see realistically happening a decent amount in prog?

    Is this just a case of Seraphism solving a bigger issue for Scholar (mobile, continuous gcd healing) than Philosophia does for Sage (Kind of just more of what Sage is already good at), thus ending up a "stronger" ability? Or is it something else that makes Seraphism complement Scholar's kit so much better than Philosophia for Sage?

    If you got this far, thanks for reading!

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  4. Yeah Philosophia is restrictive.. oh wait we wiped once today cause Seraphism doesn‘t work after Dissipation, and without you still cannot move and heal to the extend required with the current lackluster kit and potencies. Your fairy potencies are almost non-existent, Indom is better, but doest even heal one hit back up, nevermind 3 back to back. In that sense Philosophia is actually not restrictive at all, you can just use it whenever and it will be able to do it’s job, without any arbitrary conditions that make a old system feel even worse.
    I agree that it sound rather lackluster in comparison, but Sage is already hands down overturned and overpowered as it is, while staying rather simple to use and being extremely fast and responsive. So this extra, comparatively strong, HoT, is just another bonus imo

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  5. they should have gave physis a small potency buff aswell to go with the 5 second healing buff trait, atleast it would have felt somewhat impactful then..

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  6. To me, to make Philosophia better, it would be reducing the procs it gets, maybe upping the potency a bit, and also making the next X damaging spells instant. Yeah if you prepare this would be not really needed, but, it would still be cool and encourage people to dps…

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  7. I like to think of Philosophia as an equivalent to WHM's planery Indulgence that you can also utilize with gcd dmg skills, I just wish that you could use soteria on it. It's very effective in fights with heal checks like e12s terminal relativity or p8s (final mech, forgot the name)

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  8. I'd like them to add another way to generate addersting stacks that doesn't work off gcd heals. They feel really inconsistent, gcd heals are a last resort for me and it feels like being punished.

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  9. What do you think of WHM?
    So far it’s the worst healer in terms of DPS contribution, pure healing and mitigation healing as has the weakest tool for any situation the game can throw at you.

    I’m really curious what your take is on them.

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