Thou Must Live, Die, and Know | FFXIV Endwalker Reactions [Part 14]



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  1. 57:56 – Wow… You're taking this really hard, and you haven't even gotten to the real tearjerker yet. 😭

    (Watching with worry)

    Edit: Okay, I guess I didn't have to worry. You took the rest of this well enough it seems.

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  2. Lord help Rene Zagger if he ever went to a Con near where you live XD (but seriously, wonderful vid as always, Bree <3)

    Edit: Also, I'm once again reminded how well the voice cast did. I believe Meteion was Rosie Day's only voiceover work, and she knocks it out of the park. Effortlessly switching between two persona; the innocently curious young girl accompanying Hermes, and the hive mind who succumbed to despair. Not an easy task, but she pulled it off.

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  3. It's always very imposing when Emet flexes that runic mask thing he does.

    Hard watching Venat take all the hits for us. Every rejoining. Every time she had to bail us out from something ridiculously OP like Ultima, or Emet's big move.

    I really love the parallel to WoL marching toward Emet – because it's the exact circumstance she's describing, the time the WoL had a purpose (to save the First, the Source, and all) and knew our end was assured (the warden's light would eventually consume us no matter what we did). To find the strength to continue when all strength has left you, when Ardbert gives up his aether to rejoin with us. To find joy even as darkness descends, like the comraderie of G'raha emerging to help us. It's actually on point, is my point, it's not just YoshiP + Ishikawa going with "flashback to 5.0 that made them emotional before"

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  4. fun fact, when venat was stumbling forward and getting hurt and covered in black stuff, that was supposed to be blood, but it would have increased the game's rating, so they changed the color to black, i guess to show the influence of dark aether increasing as zodiark became more powerful with each rejoining?

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  5. The big mind-blowing part of this to me was realizing the Sundering was intentional. When you visit the Antitower in Heavensward, The Word of the Mother implies that sundering the star into the Source and Reflections was an unintentional result of the fight with Zodiark. In Shadowbringers, Emet-Selch explains that the sundering was the basic nature of her power, but I still figured it was a byproduct of the fight.

    Before Endwalker, I'd figured summoning Zodiark had tempered the Convocation into sacrificing ever more lives, but I couldn't figure out to what end, aside from "being a primal". Instead it was the misguided desire for a perfect paradise: an impossible dream that would have driven the Ancients and Ascians to sacrifice everyone and everything to Zodiark, resulting in the same fate of every other doomed civilization.

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  6. All this time you were pushing forward for Hydaelyn's sake…she was doing the same for yours. She knew you from even before the Sundering, she remembered you…but it would be eons before she would know you again.

    🙁

    God I love FF14

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  7. Aw poor babies…Meteion and Hermes…It makes me so sad to see them so innocent and then see what they become…

    But, another note, this section and the lvl 89 stuff really made me feel validated for never doubting Hydaelyn.

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  8. (About Venat's flashback) I'm not sure I could do it, honestly, if I were in Emet's place: knowing that my dear friend Hythlodaeus was among the number who would be sacrificed to save the star and summon Zodiark, could I still go through with it?

    It's no surprise, then, that by the time we encounter him on the First that he's bitter and jaded, slumped over by the weight of it all – millennia of anguish and loss.

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  9. "I’m really sorry about all of the singing" Don't be! You have a lovely voice!

    It still blows me away that we've had the "Answers" all along, we were simply missing the question! (cue Douglas Adams and the Hitchhiker's Guide)

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  10. The transition back to the present feels soooo jarring; from emotional damage back to normal and it hardly seems like our scion friends are even kinda moved by it. Elpis was so damn good, didnt want to leave. Also, Venat is so badass.

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  11. The deepest meaning of Answers is exactly what you brought up at the end there. But there is more than that. It doesn't stop at the Final Days in the time of Amaurot; it also has meaning beyond that. Venat sundered them so everyone would be able to live in a world with suffering as a companion. She knew no matter what they did, it would always be there around the corner and there was nothing they could do to achieve a paradise where there is no suffering. So while the lyrics speak of the Ancients themselves, it is also a song meant for all of the imperfect beings she had brought about. They would be forced to "live, die, and know" the meaning of this song, over and over again. Their plight would be repeated. Answers has not changed since it was released but the meaning behind the song has only grown since then. Just another way of saying that this game and it's music are masterpieces.

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  12. Now, after all this time we've come to understand.
    Zodiark is the Darkness that was to keep us blind and ignorant to the truth, and Hydaelyn/Venat is the Light that showed us that suffering exists and that we must accept it as our ever present companion.
    Her 'Walk' was to show that she was with us all along, even though we didn't know it at the time. Step by Step, Struggle by Struggle.

    'Answers' is an Explanation, and an Apology.
    'Flow' is a Thank You, and Goodbye

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  13. Since no one has mentioned it yet, did you notice the particularly in-depth actions of the Trust AI during the dungeon?

    Hythlodaeus and Emet-Selch dodge the boss mechanics by teleporting. Venat does not. During the boss that hides underground, Hyth and Emet thinks it's silly because they can see aether, but instead of doing the same, Venat instead talks to you when the mechanics are happening, asking if you instead saw its behavioural patterns, its footprints in the snow, and learning to dodge it from those tell-tale signs.

    That's because unlike the others, Venat doesn't rely on the strength of her powers, but rather her experiences. She also knows you can't see aether, so instead she gently wonders if you can keep up, and if you ever needed a bit of help, teach you how to do the mechanics even without the powers of an Amaurotian.

    Because even in a Trust dungeon, Crystal Mom is watching over you.

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  14. It's funny seeing Emet-Selch asking "Who are you to decide our fate?"…. when thousands of years later, Alisae will ask the same question of him.

    "Choose your enemies carefully, for you will become them."

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  15. That final cutscene hits so hard. All this time, they play Zodiark up as an evil God, then they make us feel like "maybe Hydaelyn actually is the bad guy", but this cutscene…

    Hydaelyn sundered the world to save us from ourselves. Had Venat just let things go on, man would have perished, not just to Meteion, but to their own self-sacrifice to Zodiark. She sundered the planet as a mercy, that we, her children, might one day live on and find a way to survive. I still tear up and cry every time I watch that scene.

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  16. Hythlodaeus said that their memories would probably return when it's their time to return to the star.. that makes me wonder if Emet had his memories return when he was on the verge of dying, when he told us to "Remember us".

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  17. Elpis was such a wonderful choice for the story that I would never, in a million years, have predicted. Venat is such a treasure and our connection with Hydaelyn truly became something personal because of her.

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  18. Idm the singing it was cute, but i still despise the whole theme of "suffering is needed or life looses its worth" moral…. And im sad you cut out so much of the dungeon, gotta look that up^^

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