These Guys Made FFXIV Even Harder



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18 thoughts on “These Guys Made FFXIV Even Harder”

  1. That spreadsheet is really fun but it doesn’t account for stats that actually hurt certain jobs. Such as some of the gear being skill speed. But my FRU group has been doing the eden raids and it’s been pretty fun.

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  2. 6:10 I do agree to some extent but they literally did the exact same thing in Honey B Lovely this raid tier with the first line/get in > spread/stack where it was random which pattern pair it'd be and which went first lol

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  3. I do love trying to make the content hit as hard right in your gut as it was on content. I have a soft spot especially for your first example (E2S) as Eden's Gate was my first raid tier.

    But aren't we exchanging "the experience" for the inaccuracies of stat syncing down with the comfort of the level 100 kit? You'd have access to mits (like Expedience) and other skills that would tune it in favor of the player, just like padding that extra substats that syncing down, no? Same with the level difference having the boss miss some of its autos on the tanks from time to time.

    Not trying to invalidate the fun at all. Just wanted to point out the necessary nuance as both an enjoyer of the min ilvl checkbox and "unsync but use appropriate gear" method that we are exchanging certain aspects and inaccuracies for a smoother experience but inevitably fall short of the holy grail of the on content experience that is inherently unachiveable.

    I'm not sure if it's just me misunderstanding the point made in the intro, but I don't understand criticizing the checkbox in game option being innacurate to the experience and going in with a level 100 kit that gives you more "power" on jobs that existed at the time with new skills.

    TL;DR from the discussion and reply thread below:
    "There's fun to be had here. And I don't think it's intentional… But there's some nuance here that need to be made clear here instead of just saying 'it's a more accurate experience' when there's small things at level 100 that fundamentally change the entire experience than just tuning your stats lower by stripping item slots to nothing to compensate."

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  5. I really want to give this a go some time. I've done all of Omega savage synced and MINE, and while it was still a lot of fun- and definitely still challenging in terms of mitigation and healing- the DPS checks were a complete joke.

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  6. Yeah we used that spreadsheet for eden savage too! I actually started in shb so I never had the chance to try em, but holy fuck having your 100 toolkit getting your teeth kicked in by shiva is mad fun. I'm just cranky that as a tank?? e8s specifically – I use my stun. I ACTUALLY USE MY STUN. I USE A ROLE ABILITY BESIDES REP AND RAMPART. I should not be as excited about that as I was but BRUH IT WAS COOL! Cuz how often do I get to kick something in the face and stun it??? And that's only a TINY portion of the fight as a whole but it still made me go WOAH cuz 99% of role abilities just aren't used in raids which is INSANE to me. Anywayyyyy LMAO.

    We did a different lights rampant cuz we immediately got hit with IM NOT DOING FUCKING ILYA STRAT from the one guy who did it while current LMAO. It was just N/S rotated clockwise after first proteans to E/W, so to start, orb players would have theirs BEHIND them and would bait first protean, then nyoom through middle and play chicken with balls to the face and pop orbs. Second towers bait second proteans and soak ect.

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  7. My static ran through all of Eden with this sheet these past few weeks for FRU prep. Outside of E12S (which felt a tiny bit overtuned in terms of damage intake, as noted on the sheet), these fights really do feel incredibly similar to how they did in early weeks of those tiers in Shadowbringers. It's the definitive way to experience old fights and I really wish SE could / would implement something like this natively.

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