FFXIV Eureka vs Bozja and the Relic System Changes We want to See in Endwalker. Ft. @Rurikhan



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FFXIV Eureka vs Bozja and the Relic System Changes We want to See in Endwalker. Ft. @Rurikhan

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18 thoughts on “FFXIV Eureka vs Bozja and the Relic System Changes We want to See in Endwalker. Ft. @Rurikhan”

  1. Eureka > Bozja in terms of fates. The way how spawning works and how the queing of fates works in Bozja is just a pain. For those who dont know, a simple fate that has a 20min CD can take anywhere up to 2h to spawn if unlucky (take that for farming field notes….). I'd rather know that its a 2h CD timer and have a tracker to prefarm things I need to have that consistency.
    Everything else Bozja > Eureka :3

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  2. The Resistance weapons don't give you a choice. No matter what, you must do CLL, DR, and the Dalraida to be able to finish the weapon. If you don't, they won't allow you to advance past a certain point. But at the same time, certain steps also forced you out of BSF and Zadnor because you needed to do the HW and SB alliance raids. Because of this, you don't really have a choice. If you wanted to stay out of BSF and Zadnor, you couldn't because you can't unlock the next quest. If you wanted to stay in BSF and Zadnor, you couldn't because you needed to do those raids.

    The balance issue comes from the fact that there were certain parts of the Resistance weapon were based on chance rather than certainty. When you leave things up to chance, that's when you start having problems because it makes it that much harder to balance.

    The problem with the SCH trailer is the fact that nothing has really shown to change the way they play. Pet based classes in FF14 has had a history of problems since HW because they had to be made weaker in order to balance with the pet. MCN was the first when they made the Rook Autoturret more of a temporary summon than a permanent one to fix that. But, the problem remained in SMN and SCH. Now that SMN is going to be fixed in Endwalker, that problem remains in SCH. SCH will have to have weaker heals in order to balance with the pet healing and it will be the only healer class suffering through this unless Sage's Fin Funnels are suddenly somehow treated as pets. This is a repeat of the MNK problem. Complaints of GL from HW onward only got progressively worse until people pretty much abandoned the class. After undoing the SB screw up, players still didn't return to the class and they ultimately had to do away with GL as a whole and the class is only just barely recovering. BRD appears to be getting their fix in Endwalker too, which only makes it that much worse. SCH has essentially become the new MNK where they see it as something that already works and there's no reason to change it when many people seem to be dissatisfied with the class. As for how dissatisfied, we'll have to wait until the 6.1 patch hits to see.

    If anything, SCH should be the next AST, allowing it to switch between healing, regen, or shielding based on the summon that is out. It would fit them more than AST imo. Or at the bare minimum, have their summon increase the efficiency of their healing and shielding when it is channeled, like how SMN's attacks change based on which summon is out in Endwalker.

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  3. People who raid know Sch kit is solid. They didn’t show us a WOW factor. Yoshi said “ we want to give jobs an ability equivalent to Passage of arms”. And Sch with a few others didn’t get that WOW factor. No one will care about that niche ability on a long ass cool down.

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  4. I do prefer the Eureka relic over the Resistance weapon because everything you need for the Eureka relic is contained within that content while you have to run around and do most of the other content outside Bozja/Zadnor to this step and that step not to mention that the one-time steps have so many items you have to collect for your first Resistance weapon. It's maddeningly insane.

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  5. It's amazing that whm blm and Sam are the only jobs from 11 that pretty much stayed the same. War drk use to be dps. Rdm had the same kit but was forced to be a main healer that also had to be a haste refresh bot. Sch was a mix of blm and whm just not able to cast the highest tier spells. Nin was forced to be a tank instead of dps because of its shadows.

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  6. Imo SCH is fine. It just needs some tweaks not a full overhaul. Been playing it since HW and so far it only sucked during 5.0 when they just made every wrong choice and eventually went back on them. Just give SCH back some dots again and it’s enough

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  7. Tbh i'm absolute not a Fan of The current Relic System….but to be fair ive also really Hate Eureka.

    The Bozja System is a mix of old Relic and Eureka which in Theory is a great System because you can either choose doing Bozja or Old Zone Fates/Raids…etc.
    But in Reality you have to do the Bozja Storyquest which also includes all the Bozja Raids/Dungeons. And here i see the Flaw. When the Relic is new you have absolute no Problems finding groups for it or even make the Engagement spawn. But as time passes its getting harder and harder to do it because no one doing the old Bozja Zones anymore. I was building my Relic for my Alt Charakter and still not manage to find a grp for Castrum Lacus Litore because everytime the Engagement was up we where there with only 5 or 6 ppl and didnt able to finish it.

    As long as you have such Gatekeeping Dungeons needed for the Relic i'm not gonna build another one.

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  8. Idk if I’ll finish my relic because I don’t care for the Bozja stuff. I don’t mind farming dungeons for souls (except I wish you only needed like 5 of each soul lol). I guess I just don’t like a lot of grinding and losing mettle when you die has almost made me throw my controller at the TV on several occasions lol.

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  9. I love bozja because I can level my ult jobs much faster then dungeon grinding, but the drop rates besides Castrum are bad.
    And for SCH for high end raiding, that move speed buff is gonna be SO good!!

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  10. Hopefully we can get something between Eureka and Bozja. I personally enjoyed Eureka more, it was chill and could chat while waiting for NM's and by the time you were levelled the relic was pretty much done. Running around constantly chasing fates in Bozja that usually are over before you get there was not fun at all (not to mention the buffs and increased mount speed for ppl who did it a lot making it even harder for ppl trying to catch up), and once done levelling still no where near finished with the relic.

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