The controversy over incentivising gifting subs to SPECIFIC streamers including big name WoW ones
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I dont like the idea of giving smaller streamers money just because they are small. They didnt deserve it any more then any of the bigger streamers and if anyone even would deserve it (which i dont think anyone really does or doesnt) then it would be the bigger ones because they promote the game to a much bigger audience then the smaller ones.
Also just imagine a little 20 viewer streamer thinking he can go fulltime just because of the influx of viewers that dont watch them because of their personality/person but because of the event
it would do more harm then good.
And just a little side note most of the streamers that where chosen dont even have 1k viewers most of the time so you can really be calling them "big streamers" anyways.
(btw i dont have anything against any of the streamers chosen or not chosen I dont even watch any of them)
i wonder if square enix marketing considered that if they target the largest wow audiences to bring as many of them onboard as they can so many come on board that instead of assimilating the wow players into the ffxiv player base, the ffxiv community becomes more like wow 😀
I don't care about this, but people would lose their fucking minds if Blizzard did anything similar to this. Feels like this game gets a free pass for almost anything.
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Marketing is like politics, you don't try to flip the other brands' die hards because they're not listening to you. You don't need to play to your own base because they already love you (and even if they complain, they'll still play). Your juicy, sweet targets are the people who are in flux. The best marketing dollar you can spend is to focus on an underserved and interested community.
And it's not chasing a watermelon, ha ha. Those are a special kind of veggie that chocobos eat that have been around for a few games called gyshal greens.
a Fat BLACK chocobo? poggers
Look its a black lifeform working for scraps. ANY RESEMBLANCE TO RL?
I'm not giving a streamer mah gil🤪fx off get a real job
After sub, you have to gift 4 = $20
everyone I know calls it the "Big Black Chocobo"
No controversy, just marketing. Move on guys.
Dude why tf does he drink out of cans like that?… lol.
Tbh I'm just happy this campaign can be done no matter where you live. Being EU, I feel like we're always left out of these things normally.
i got my FF14 FBC aka BBC big black chonkabo
''Controversy'' out of nothing. The Chocobo is not chasing a watermelon, but different green vegetable. I think you are seeing what you want to see..
Also please don't smack your lips near the microphone so much, it's really unpleasant. I suggest using sound muffler or something.
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FF14 should be tired of having to pay in store or to streamers to have ingame content. But FF14 players like to have their wallets stolen constantly. They are not that different to wow players.
"Square Enix do some weird stuff because they are Japanese . . . "
Yep. Enough said.
Fun fact, I wasn't originally on their list but they saw me streaming FFXIV for a week straight and they asked me 2 days before the promo if I'd be interested to be a part of it 🥰
Marketing isn't just about getting in front of the most faces, sometimes you gotta experiment, and I'm curious to see how this experiment goes. I'm personal more predisposed to thinking the "shotgun goes boom" approach would have had more impact considering that might have brought over people who don't even know what an MMO is let alone how enjoyable that type of gameplay might be to them… only time and a competent interpretation of the statistics will tell… keep in mind the cost of giving out these adorable chunky boys left and right should be measured in the loss of mount prestige within the community, not in strict financial terms, they are effectively the federal reserve and they can print out as many mount tokens or whatever is used as they want… it's more a question of whether devaluing art assets is worth it and whether that's a slippery slope.
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wow FF. well played. this helps streamers, players, and the company. brilliant move
I still dont see any controversy with it. Everything is completely normal
Of course, let's all create an issue involving some black bird on a video game, sounds like a great thing to spend my precious time on.
"Power begets power" is a lesson far too few people understand these days. Whether it's business or politics or anything else, it's always easier to get more when you already have a lot, and that's the natural order. There's no mandate from the almighty for the little guy to get a break.
Keep in mind, I'm a liberal (and not a libertarian at all) so this isn't how I WANT things to be, but it IS how things ARE. You can't get pissed at Square Enix for going where their target audience already is. They would be negligent not to. All the people bitching about this should take their subs and give them to the small streamers even if it means they don't get a free mount. THAT'S how you ensure they're included in the next marketing event. You want change? There's a price for that. Pay it or STFU.
Donate $ to the ex-WoW streamers… get krakerz.. feed said krakerz to big chubby chicken.. bc that is how FF see WoW players and y'all are thinking youre being welcomed into the community lmao
When this came out A LOT of streamers were calling it the BBC! Big Black Chocobo…..
That's definitely the same greens the other chocobos have, its not a watermelon lol
small streamers are small for a reason, they're boring. Who cares, it's like all these nobodies that moan whenever someone does well. "lots of people moan" really a few hundred nobodies on the internet moan amongst themselves. If they want part of the marketing budget get an audience.
most of the people i have spoken to that are FF players said just like i did that they would be more happy if they could just outright buy it out off the shop without having to jump thought all these hoops, the fat chocobo is one of my favorite mounts (i do have 3 stall mounts that i won when watching the Comicstorian and 2 of them are my other favorites, fatter cat and SDS Fenrir, i also have the Indigo Whale but its just to darn big)
on the other hand big Grats to the streamers that are going to get a MASSIVE boost in subs for this one month, thats a nice paycheck and a big boost in their visibility.
7:12 as far as i know Jesse cox is the only one with that sub model on twitch, one payment and its a lifetime sub to the channel, even though i almost never watch him (there is not enough hours in the day to also get sleep and do all the stuff i want) i still got a sub to his channel as why not its a fantastic deal.
Couldn't they have done a category-wide promotion simply by limiting the category cull to those channels in the category a week before the promotion was announced, preventing new channels from hopping on the bandwagon after the fact?
Simp mount is a bit better than store mount, but it's still cash 4 mount at the end of the day.
im still disapointed its not called big black chocobo
I got mine, that's cheap for a mount. MrHappy is not that big of a streamer, he's on the list.
i think i remember some eu people saying that the some of the streamers on their list barely even played ffxiv which is the reason why some people got angry
Note that people are complaining for recolors of mounts already available either in the mogstation and one in game for an achievement. Can't wait for the big fat red chocobo controversy. XD
But what else would you call it if there's already a fat chocobo? Fat void chocobo? Nah too complicated
Who did this really piss off, seems like a streamer problem not a majority of the player base
The idea itself isn't bad. You're not just spending money but you support content creators so if you want to do that and maybe even planned to, there is nothing wrong with it. Multiple people can get something out of it rather than just one.