5.5 Tier List | OUR personal Power Ranking for FFXIV – feat Twitch Chat



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48 thoughts on “5.5 Tier List | OUR personal Power Ranking for FFXIV – feat Twitch Chat”

  1. Does the dancers placement, for example, in terms of damage, include the damage that wouldn't exist via buffs that otherwise wouldn't be there? Or only their direct damage?

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  2. man i am a WoW Refugee… and my Main was a Warlock and i cant decide if i wanna play Red mage, Ninja or Machinist. are there big differences between how useful someone is ?

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  3. theres a function on youtube to put timestamps on parts of the video, I'd really appreciate it if you could do one for each class you are talking about so its much easier to get an overview of what you are talking.

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  4. Someone who has played bdo and other class based mmos, if a player is amazing at a job then they'll outcast any other player in the higher tears, unless they are dragoons

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  5. I think SMN should be lower from just how clunky their kit is compared to something like BLM where the difficulty is in positioning, not fighting your own kit, everything fits in and flows together. The way egi assaults work and procs from them feel super weird and disconnected from the rest of the kit, it does not flow, and also the fact physick is still a thing at all.

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  6. Question about something stated in the video.

    Is WHM attack damage actually considered bad compared to the other healers? AST has better team synergy and contributes more to overall team damage with card mechanics and healing primarily with ability cooldowns, so that's understandable; but when it comes to solo attack potency and damage up time, WHM personal numbers seem on the higher end compared to AST and SCH; especially when calculating Presence of Mind + Glare on a solo targets / Presence of Mind + Thin Air + Holy on dungeon mobs. Even using Benefict not as a panic button but to spend more time attacking is beneficial to DPS uptime.

    I main all the healers; but WHM contribution to DPS definitely feels more impactful to me. Perhaps not as strong as an AST buffing say a BLM or SAM, but definitely more well rounded than SCH. idk

    Unless there's something I'm missing?

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  7. Wanting to put whm in A tier because lack of damage is silly. What is the job of a whm? To heal, buff and raise NOT damage. When you look at it in that aspect, whm is S tier with regen, asylum, cure 1, 2 , 3, benediction, raise, ect…. so props for putting it S tier

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  8. You should evaluate DNC based partly on how much damage it brings to the party, not just how much it outputs directly (which is best of ranged phys). IOW, will your party put out more damage with any other class?

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  9. Have your sins been forgiven today and forever?  Think about this.   The God of the bible,  the One True God made us to worship him, obey him, and enjoy him forever.   We break His laws daily by not putting Him first, not thanking Him like we should, we lie, we lust, we have sex before marriage, we dishonor our parents, we covet things other people have, we take God's name and use it in vain,  we use it in a low manner,  sometimes as a cuss word,  (God is holy and even His name is holy),  we don't love like we should, etc.  In doing so we're saying He's not a good provider,  He's a liar,  He's untrustworthy,  He's not worthy of praise.   All these things and more are counted against us.   The bible says God is the just judge of the world and one day He will settle the score for all the wrong we've done.  God is holy meaning He is righteous (morally perfect in thought, word,  and deed)  It also means He is set apart and higher than us.  God  being good, must punish all sin or wrong doing in the world.  This means that if you sin one time God will cast you in hell for eternity.   Because He is good and He doesn't turn a blind eye to sin.  But there is good news.  2000 years ago Jesus the Son  of God came into this world and lived a perfect life ( He never sinned once)  and He died on the cross taking the wrath that we deserve and paid the penalty for the sins we committed.   The bible says that if you will repent (confess and forsake your sins)  and trust in what Christ did on the cross (He took the wrath of God that was meant for you and I) then all your sins will be forgiven and when you die you will be in heaven with God and all who believe for eternity.  Jesus died and on the third day He rose from the grave.  Get right with God today don't wait.  Once you die after that comes the judgement.  Hebrews 9:27 It's the most important thing you can do.   You must be born again John 3:7 If you repent and trust in what Christ did on the cross it shows that you've been born again or born spiritually.   Right now you're dead in your sins and you can't see the beauty of Jesus Christ but after you trust in Christ all the things you hate about God like obeying him,  serving Him,  loving Him and others,  reading the bible, praying and going to church you will love to do those things because God changes your heart.   That's how you know you have been born again and forgiven.  Please think long about this and ask me any questions you have as this is the most important thing you can ever think of in your life.   An eternity in hell (darkness and a lake of fire the bible describes it, with weeping and gnashing of teeth)  or an eternity out of that place and into the loving arms of God who is infinitely glorious, has infinite knowledge and has infinite power to do all that He pleases.   You decide.   Have a great day!

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  10. If there's an S+ rank, it will be BLM, I mean think about it, with that amount of damage, their moving and positioning problem don't even exist anymore. Let's say others can do 3K with a moderate survival and continuous attack, but it takes a long time to finish the boss with no certainty the party can keep it up for long, while BLM can do 10K in exchange of position and good timing only, healers main focus should be on BLM if they want to finish it off fast tbh knowing tank have many skills with defense and self healing. He should consider this important factor later on, you can't look at glass cannon with a tank perspective, no wonder many roast you for putting BLM below A or even at A lmao.

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  11. now if this were to take how most randoms I find in roulletes perform into account instead, black mage, samurai, and ninja would drop down to below blue mage, and monk would be S++

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  12. I associate Balamb Gardens playing. Really hit me with nostalgia. Just created my first character while listening to this. Gotta admit, I'm VERY disappointed in the male models. I can't even put a beard on my character. All look like Kpop.

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  13. What's missing from all of these tier lists is the SSS tier which will always have only two classes: FUN and GUD.

    You master those two and you'll never want for a spot in a party and you'll never be bored. Remember, damage counts for nothing if you're not having any fun playing it and you can't git gud! Also, #BlackMagicMatters!

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  14. Everyone who thinks DNC is above BRD is wrong. BRD does more single target damage and equal AoE damage when played right, has better party support in the form of all 3 songs, Battle Voice, an esuna/debuff immunity, party wide defensive CD, and a buff that makes healing spells do bigger heals to a friendly target. Only thing DNC beats BRD in is burst damage. In terms of support, BRD is definitely an S rank.

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  15. Scholar has always been in a disadvantage as mitigation or shield is situational/optional, HOT is a must. In this scenario, WHM >> everything else.
    AST still gets its spot on higher tier for being flexible.
    So let's see how the fate of the trio will be reshuffled when they are going to balance HOT and Shield or make it exclusive.

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  16. next time you do this you should get a new graph. that as b-, b, b+, a-,a,a+,s-,s,God tier… it would offer a more clear difference between the jobs.

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  17. Tier lists are annoying cause a decent player playing a "B tier" can beat someone playing a "S tier", but this list will give people preconceptions about classes where they will simply look them over without considering they could be good with their class compared to the brain dead player who just picked his class cause it was S tier. It's subtly toxic imo, same kind of shit WoW players did and it created a community that shunned classes that people leveled up while playing and loving them– often causing them to quit. It's inevitable, I know. It's just annoying. Just wish people would focus on being better than their previous self than constantly trying to make sure they're better than everyone else.

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  18. Is the astrologian viable for solo play? I like to heal but I don't like playing with others im new and I've been considering white mage or scholar but astrologian seems to help teammates a lot

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  19. People in summits chat telling him samurai is worst DPS at level 50 meanwhile I'm in crystal raids doing 200 more DPS than the 2nd place guy everytime while messing up my rotations constantly KEKW

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