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So this music start in fase two of the fight, and it does fit, the first part is alot calmer but the buildup into this song makes it soooooo epic, I guess you have to experience it to understand 😀
It's funny you mention how it "doesn't fit", considering how this music is structured in the game.
This song appears in the second phase of the fight, the first phase is "footsteps in the snow", and it's a much more generic fantasy boss theme with heavy brass, bombastic drums and a choir singing. It's a radical shift in music that happens in the middle of the fight and it really catches you off guard.
Akademia from Shadowbringers. I think that style would throw you for a loop.
I love this song so much. So in the game you can earn mounts and while you’re riding them it plays the boss music. I think I rode the shiva mount for a solid 150 hours lol
I've been waiting for this one. This theme actually starts very calmly (i think phase 1 is called footsteps in the snow) but the song suddenly comes to a halt, ice shatters and youre thrown this song and everything just gets that more intense. Its very unique which is why i love it
Cant wait for your reaction to "Locus" my favourite in FF14
“Oblivion”, “Return to Oblivion” and “Footsteps in the Snow” make a trifecta of Shiva themes. Footsteps in the snow plays during the first phase, but it’s motifs are found in both Oblivion and Return to Oblivion.
Fun fact, bosses from the same trial “series” usually have the same firs phase music: Containment Bays, Elemental Lords, Weapons… but Shiva is not a boss of a series, and Shiva E8S is a raid boss, but they both are the same *entity*, and Footsteps in the Snow plays for both first phases.
Dude you are working your ass off, don't even worry about apologizing
This song is for Shiva's phase 2, while the first phase has a different song. I think a little bit of the impact is lost without hearing the other phases in these fights. The first phase is like a standard heavy orchestral boss theme then it fades into silence, only for this song to start when Shiva uses her super move. It's such a hard change that it hits you even harder haha. It was a really controversial song back when it came out
Another example of a fight with multiple phases is Titan's theme. It has 5 phases and the song evolves in each one
This fight is still one of my favorites so far. I love how the fight starts out in a classical operatic theme and then after the phase change and some badass stuff happening from Shiva's end, the fight basically resets and this theme kicks in. It's like the first phase is just a warm-up until the real fight begins. Gets people hyped every time. Also the lyrics to this song really represent Ysayle's (the chick who turns into Shiva) feelings and conviction well so it fits the story in that regard.
There's actually a lot of different sounds like this on different bosses. Sephirot comes to mind where it starts out like a normal FF boss theme, and then during the big phase change it turns into a NiN song basically.
One thing I love about XIV music (and boss music) is it's about the character/boss and not just typical boss music.
So the topic of the song is as raw as the music, it starts out with the character remembering the trauma of her near death as a child. It then goes through the process of her decision to become a villain.
I think in this case, the music fits if you know what is going on in the story. The lyrics really fit the situation and I think the style fits that rebellious 90's feel from music.
I saw the Return to Oblivion reaction in my recommends and paused it to come here after you said you reacted to this one. Part of the appeal of a lot of XIV Trials is they start with an instrumental that is more generally accepted BGM then phase into the more "pop" or contemporary pieces. The Phase 1 Shiva Theme, Dreams of Ice, is pretty epic and the lietmotif heavily inspires Return to Oblivion. Love your channel!!
This one starts out with a bang because its a phase 2 song, and there isn't any build up once the action starts again, she just freezes everybody and then floats around the arena in silence, then stamps her foot down with a loud clack and the music just starts up.
R.I.P one of the greatest transitions in gaming/music
Considering Ysayle (the person who transforms into her own idea of Shiva) is a rebel, terrorist and leader of an attempted revolution, I'd say that a punk 90's song fits her perfectly.
You sooooooooo need to review FFXIV Lakshmi's Theme ( Beauty's Wicked Wiles )!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (or else :p)
Starting at the phase change for this one takes quite a bit from the song, It really needs that first bit.
I think this song is a very good demonstration of how sometimes, the song can play a big role in setting the mood instead of just complimenting it.
Unlike bosses like Ravana, Shiva is actually a very important character, but you fight her before you really understand the full extent of that importance. You know before the fight begins that she believes what she's doing that you're fighting against is the right thing to do. This is phase 2, and now that you've pushed her to give the fight her all, the song with its "rawness" in its music and singing shows you just how passionate, how powerful her belief in her cause is. It's her raw emotions being played at you. She has to defeat you.
In short, I think it's intentional that you're caught off guard by the genre, and then slowly come around, the song making its own argument for why it's truly fitting.
go for eScape (omega ost) is a banger song as well
What really hits, for me, in these trial fight musics is the transition between the two songs. Oblivion is very good alone, but not better than accompanied by Footsteps in the Snow. Just my opinion.
This song is great in context of it being phase 2 of the fight transitioning from another song, but on it’s on I prefer the ‘Never Let it Go’ version
As many people were saying, a lot of the love for this song came from the transition from the previous theme "Footsteps in the Snow" to this one. Highly recommend watching a video of the whole fight (or at least from phase 1 to phase 2) for the full effect. Sephirot's theme had a similar effect on a lot of people as well and it was due to the relatively "normal" phase 1 into the shift into phase 2.
You will find yourself singing "wake up in sweat. Filled with regret" later
This sounds so much like Billy Talent
What a shame the first phase "footsteps in the snow" (I think?) isn't included, it is also reused in Return to Oblivion
I think the thing I've seen said is this:
1 Soken is a mad lad
2 FFXIV is both a love letter and homage to all other Final Fantasy music tracks.
3 Sick bass
4 Lovely leitmotifs that go from soundtrack to soundtrack, from Final Fantasy to Final Fantasy.
If you’ve heard the jrock band Tommy Heavenly6, this song feels like a huge homage towards them and specifically their bop papercut. :3 bye ✌️
Oblivion is a weird whiplash. Footsteps in the Snow (Phase 1) is this big, foreboding choir track that feels like its leading to something massive. Then….this. Your right, it doesn't fit. But its still a fun song.
bops head to music > remove hair out of face > repeat loop indefinetly
So there’s actually two versions of this song, this one is from the optional higher end difficulty one. The other version (the version I prefer) is from the fight you do through the story.
The story version is a lot more distorted and is more late 90's garage rock than the cleaner and poppier version you heard here.
This is also my favorite song in the whole game and what actually made me fall in love with XIV because it was such a statement musically.
The lyrics are also unique in that they describe the backstory of the character who called forth Shiva rather than Shiva herself.
When I first heard eScape in-game I was all "Huh, this doesn't seem to fit all…oh okay…Oh it's hype…OH LETS GOOOOO!"
I feel what gets lost is if someone just separates it from the first part, because to me what makes these is the transition from the first to this. same thing with the Shadowbringers Hades transition if one manages to listen to them with the transitions makes them 10x better
Hey it's fine that you weren't thrilled by the song, I totally get where you're coming from. The song is very jarring and like immediately in your face.
I think the reason that it works so well in the game is that the first part of the fight is that Orchestral sort of Boss theme that you would expect from a boss fight. You start off fighting the first phase of Shiva and she's just doing here thing and uh… Spoilers I guess from this point:
By a certain point in the fight everything just becomes deathly quiet as Shiva skates around the stage and Freezes everyone and the stage. Then she appears on top of all of you, snaps her finger causing all the ice to shatters and breaks away and then this song starts to play introducing the second phase of the fight.
The reason it works so well in game is because it's preceded by another part of the fight that sort of ramps into this song which just goes as hard and fast as possible. This song is also quite old in terms of Final Fantasy XIV and it's like one of the first times that they went really hard with a musical genre that might not have regularly fit into the game. Up to this point they had been working so hard on making Rebirthing the game from it's failed state that they didn't really have time to be creative, this was the first time that they really let Soken loose I think, so it wasn't just shattering the stage but it was also shattering the expectations of what we could expect from the game moving forward.
Overall I think your criticism is valid, but I believe the context is king in this case.
Your 'controversial take' is one hundred percent the same that I've heard from others I've shown it to out of the blue. The shift from phase one to phase two (Oblivion) is so stark that it solidified it as one of my favorites.
Oh man you totally need to see Under The Weight or Titan's Theme.