GOODBYE Physical Ranged DPS! [FFXIV 7.05]



Physical Ranged DPS aren’t needed in Final Fantasy XIV anymore for the current savage raid tier. Double caster DPS like Black Mage and Pictomancer are doing great and right now I find it impossible to need to justify a physical ranged DPS in a group unless you are intentionally parsing. Simply put they physical ranged DPS aren’t doing enough.

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Timestamps:
0:00 Physical Ranged DPS are obsolete in FFXIV
0:19 Futures Rewritten Ultimate
0:31 You don’t need a machinist bard or dancer for savage
1:29 Black mage and pictomancer are very good
2:47 Various team compositions are viable in savage
4:29 Physical ranged just doesn’t bring enough to the table
5:37 Physical ranged is the hardest DPS role to fill in party finder
6:12 Physical ranged is the easiest role in the game
7:10 If you want easy clears go physical ranged DPS
8:08 the lowest damage in the game
9:09 Questionable utility
11:00 Physical ranged is rough

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22 thoughts on “GOODBYE Physical Ranged DPS! [FFXIV 7.05]”

  1. Physical ranged DPS is VERY NOTABLY the hardest DPS role to fill in PF, so why not throw them into the dumpster rather than wait?

    To disclaimer again: This is talking about the savage raid tier. If your raid group's physical ranged DPS wants to go caster and run double caster why not? I genuinely see no problem with double caster. Especially Black mage and pictomancer there are no real drawbacks as far as I can tell.

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  2. The problem is, once MCH gets buffed and is equal with bard and dancer, why would you ever play Bard and Dancer? Dismantle is so OP in ultimates that I'd be griefing for not bringing it instead of Bard.

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  3. all ranged got their problem at the moment, MCH the lowest dps with no party buff, Bard is always weird and high punishment for death with the 3 songs must line up perfectly, DNC probably the less problem and big support skils but super RNG, that's why less people playing range I guess

    And I don't agree physical range is the easiest role to play now, with many of the melee job not required too many positional and also have a range attacked, some are not too hard to play now

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  4. I’ve never understood this “fear” with making the phys ranged classes stronger. Every year and every expansion there has been some excuse (utility, ease of play, etc)and then PCT comes along carrying all the strengths with zero weaknesses. Essentially BLM for dummies with a party wide buff just in case you thought to bring a SMN or RDM instead.

    That’s not even getting into the massive boss hit boxes all throughout EW for the parsebrain melee via uptime strats.

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  5. I stopped playing because the same problem as last expansion were popping up again.
    People care about the perception of being rewarded for the skill they put in. They want melee dps to be overrewarded for having to stay close and punish those who don't have to.
    It only worked in shadowbringer and has been not good in the next two expasions.

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  6. Bevore I watch the video: I doubt, that doublecaster deals more dmg then the +1% aoe perm dmg buff from having a phys range + the massive raidbuffs that dancer and BRD provide. Will watch it now.
    Edit: he doesnt care abaout the dmg loss, since it's clearable without that. Fair point, if u just go for reclears without caring for "funny numbers" then he's right, but u can also play M4S 6 Tanks no heal, there's alrdy a video on that so..caster, melee and healers not needed too? 😛

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  7. i finished the tier with mch and ill give my thoughts on it. For one the disparity between mch and melee classes is a bit too large, a mch perfect opener and rotation with having to constantly weave barely gets past a melee who barely put in the bare minimum. secondly the lack of a buff feels like you are doing a jester dance to possibly do less dps than a bard who doesnt even have a 1-2-3. however, if you are good at the class, youll clear the tier but it also puts melee and caster responsible for actually having to do their job and put in the dps to clear.

    edit: do you live on planet neptune? almost every pf has a dnc and brd in it and theres no easy clear being a phys ranged. its all up to PF to do the mechanics right

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  8. Isn't this common knowledge already? LOL. You'd easily prove your point if you can show the actual dps numbers of 2x caster vs 1x phys w/+1%, and build your case around that instead of rambling on and on and lazily paste a dps chart sounding like the snootiest player justifying this whole phys range cancellation/erasure. Dude, go run 2x caster nobody cares but if others want to play phys range then let them. Go make your own 2x caster party in PF or static and call it a day. Gosh some people.

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  9. It's because usually the type of player who is pushing into randoms when Savage and Ultimates come out are people who are parsing so they can try and get into a group. BRD and DNC, on the other hand, can usually find a static pretty easy, and you have to be pretty bad not to do at least above average dps. So it's not that there aren't phys ranged dps looking to do Hard raids in PF, it's more that phys ranged don't need to do randoms in PF.

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  10. This week I got my re-clears done quickly because I was constantly finding parties missing only a phys range. I play dancer because I like it's style, been playing it since it was introduced in ShB, but it is frustrating how much worse the balance is in DT.

    I'm also frustrated with how static the burst windows have gotten, my favorite time is ShB dancer. They removed a lot of the flourish procs in EW just to essentially just give it back to us in "new" moves. I liked ShB dancer because it felt like a mid-ranged class because we had to drop off 2 melee GCDs every minute.

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