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Didn't expect the conclusion of the post patch story so quickly
(Context: much like how HW's patches worked, Stormblood's patches 4.1-4.3 continues the story of the main game and 4.4-4.55 sets up the next expansion. This is the start of 4.3)
Tsuyu is a walking diplomatic incident waiting to happen… but is there a right answer, here?
In a single episode, in a single patch, the ruler of Doma has let his most precious prisoner, who is in not the best mental health, who remembers nothing about the world, escape twice
Hien……
I hate to say "they had it coming", but Yotsuyu's parents were very aware of the monster they made their daughter to be, and still made the exact same mistakes.
Not that Asahi is much better…
Today on PlayFrame: Things are going wrong. Very wrong. If this upcoming prisoner exchange isn't some sort of trap, then I think Asahi's doing an incredibly poor job of convincing us otherwise.
I'll agree that it is quite weird how Hien managed to lose track of Yotsuyu twice in just under two quests, the first time perhaps being the one with the most impact on what seems to have now happened – she has returned to her brother's side of her own volition, and we've just lost ourselves a valuable bargaining chip. This is why we put prisoners in *cells*, no matter how friendly they may seem…
(44:15) And so do the parents of Yotsuyu and Asahi pass on, stabbed to death in the streets of the Enclave by their own daughter. With what we've heard and seen of them from various sources, whether it be the Echo or otherwise, all I can honestly say in regards to their death is this: may they be judged.
All in all, it feels like we're riding towards a Catch-22 – and so I leave off today's comment with a saying that might just be appropriate for what's to come: "Si vis pacem, para bellum".
(If you want peace, prepare for war.)
Tsuyu, poor thing, she was an innocent soul who lived a brief life of persecution for the misdeeds of another. The target of unjust mistrust, unwarranted hatred, and unearned suspicion, simply because she shared the face of a villain. Ultimately, the vindictive schemes of a repulsive imp worm and the filth he crawled through saw Tsuyu to her end, poor thing.
6:53 👀👀👀👀
(This moment has been meme'd to death over the years)
It is time for another final fantasy Friday question, everyone 🎉
This week's question is: how are you liking this story patch so far?
Ffxiv really likes having double stories. In this isntance mobs against Fordola and Tsu. Usually theres something interesting to say of the parallel, in this case making a case for forgivness, and pitty for the guilty. Fordola knows now more than ever what she did, while Tsu knows nothing of it. Both are no longer a threat, and both will be expected to face justice, but that justice must not be bloodshed.
8:45 This one line is actually cited a lot by people trying to figure out just how much time has passed between the start of A Realm Reborn and all the expansions.
"had someone told me a year ago" is an expression, not a definitive measure of time, but still. It implies that about a year ago, Alphinaud knew who both Yotsuyu and Gosetsu were. Implying that it's been about a year since the scions first travelled out East. Or at least a year since the Domans settled in Mor Dhona and Alphinaud would've been able to hear about Doma's then viceroy.
Still, it's all speculation and the dev team have left it up to player interpretation. Some say, even to Endwalker, that only months have passed. Others think that, because the game has effectively been around 10 years, that 10 years have passed since ARR. I feel both are… Highly implausible due to many factors that would be spoilers to get into and that it's a nebulous "somewhere in between".
One thing people seem to forget is that Yotsuyu had training as a Garlean spy. I wonder if Tsuyu unconsciously used her spy training to slip away from Hien’s custody?
12:14 and this is by far one of the worst writing decisions I have seen in the MSQ…
Doma, a nation known for their shinobi, is unable to keep track of a single civilian woman who has the mind of a child.
There are those who say she should have been locked up. That she should be kept as a prisoner. But thats not even necessary. You just need one or two guards on her that would act as escorts for where she wants to go, to ensure she doesn't go out in public where she could do harm accidentally or be harmed herself.
I know that they are doing this so we do get the following scenes, that it sets up events to come, that it explores the pain the people have by having her live.
But by going the route they did, they are doing so by just really making Doma's shinobi, Doma's security, Hien, and just Doma in general have a laughably high level of ineptitude. You are trying to run a nation, yet you are unable to prevent a child basically from walking out of your highest security area of your country? What are you doing?
42:38 She claims she doesn't hide behind "justice" like the self-righteous, but this sure feels like justice to me.
Asahi's neck is so wringable
Playfriends, what a coincidence! Shortly after this episode went live, members of Desert Bus for Hope's Dawnguard team were talking about media they love and Playframe was brought up by many of them! Carrie attempted to hide from the attention. But anyways, back to Doma! This is your spoiler free lore comment.
We're on to Patch 4.3, Under the Moonlight. Patch 4.3 was released in May 2018, and included the Ridorana Lighthouse, the new deep dungeon Heaven-On-High, and the crafting tribe, The Namazu!
Refilling the Scions's coffers is going to have to wait, we've got some Domans to get back. Although it sounds like Alphinaud has been learning a rude lesson on personal finances, and Alisaie has been forced to learn along with him.
5:50 – It's rough to a great warrior reduced to being fed gruel on his sick bed.
7:00 – But it's perhaps a small indignity compared to being forced to accept sponge baths.
12:35 – When someone abides by all your rules and seems docile, it can be easy to relax your regulations. Remember, only Hien's inner circle know that Tsuyu is in the Enclave. Everyone is free to come and go from the Enclave, so why would anyone bat an eye at someone crossing the river? Only those conducting security for the Kienkan would know to stop her. And with how meek Tsuyu has been, I doubt they've been particularly vigilant.
15:45 – The Namasu of Yuzuka Manor are the ones who begin the festival preparations on the Azim Steppe as Stormblood's crafting tribe reputation grind. One of their number has had visions (or maybe hallucinations) of doom coming to the Namazu if they do not appease the gods with a festival. Considering very few of them know anything about festivals and most are fairly lazy, they need your help! The festival preparations involve trade with the Steppe and others in Othard, strengthening bonds and adverting disaster. Disaster such as the Xaela preying on the Namazu during lean times, or the Namazu falling to infighting.
19:35 – Keeping Tsuyu secret has prevented the crowds baying for her blood like has happened to Fordola. It's allowed Hien to examine and ponder her situation. But it also means that her visage comes across as a ghost, haunting those who Yotuyu tormented.
21:20 – While Hien will lie to his subjects by omission, he will not tell a direct lie to their faces. Revealing Tsuyu's survival immediately results in Namai calling for retribution. This is not what I would do in this case. I would have claimed that Tsuyu was found in Doma Castle, a double groomed by Yotsuyu to prevent assassination attempts. This would make Tsuyu another victim of Yotsuyu's crimes. Which, in some ways, is true.
22:40 – But i suppose my solution would prevent a moment like this. Sometimes it takes the innocence of a child to show the path forward.
28:55 – We knew Asahi would try some trick, but this is hard to account for. Asahi's parents, who took Yotsuyu in, used her, abused her, and sold her off to a vile husband to forward their own ambitions.
36:00 – We know Asahi is underhanded. We cannot assume he doesn't have another "gift".
36:20 – Okay, this is just bad on the Kienkan guards. She's slipped out once, just hours before. With the Garleans here, security should be tightened. Once is happenstance. Twice is sloppy.
37:45 – Too bad Durmin is a Samurai, and not a healer. Not that he'd be able to do much, incapacitated by an Echo vision.
40:00 – And now we see more of Asahi's depravity. He's had his own parents exiled from the Garlean capital. He's brought them here to jog Yotsuyu's memory. He's pushed them into the enclave to have more time with her. He knows what they're like, he knows that if Yotsuyu's memory returns, she would take their lives.
Next time: Tsuyu is gone. What plan does Asahi have for Yotsuyu? Hien needs to be ready for anything.
I had a feeling she was going for the fruit. We can only hope now that Tsuyu living the life Yotsuyu was denied has softened her enough that she can still be redeemed. And that Asahi gets offed before this story ends. I doubt anyone who hasn't played this story, myself included, is taking bets that the "hostages" aren't Garleans in disguise ready to attack during the exchange.
– yes, i do appreciate that Alphie is here to get roasted by every character
– are you seriously telling me nobody at the Enclave sells persimmons?! they literally just rebuild the Food Stands!
– Azami needs to become the village elder of Namai ASAP, she's the only one with some semblance of common sense
– ok, Bloodshed is not the correct punishment (yet) but I'm sure Tsuyu at the very least has to get grounded, no Dango for dinner… either way, I'm not trusting Yugiri & Hien with parenting any time soon
– WELP! if that didn't reveal Asahi's entire plan to win back the Empire's good grace I don't know what will, also i love the "please anything but being here!" expression on their parents
– awwww… dang it! there she goes, shame she returned but Slay Queen!
yeah catfish do have scales, is just that they're so tiny & carry so much moisture is hard to tell, just like sharks
The storytelling in FFXIV patch 4.3, along with the internet being what it is, is why Yotsuyu still has a fanbase among the community. Personally, I've always just thought it kind of sad, but then I never really liked her to begin with. My buy-in was always more on Gosetsu's side of things. Spoiler(?) follows:
That the name of the patch is "Under the Moonlight" should explain a few things come next week.
4:00 Holy hell, what did Tataru do to him?
6:46 You basically died! And don't give me this "I got better" crap, you basically died and that takes a huge toll on anyone.
7:00 Alisaie, so quick to make assumptions.
though if Yotsuyu gave me that order, I probably wouldn't hesitate7:37 Man, those are some bullet holes, all right.
9:32 She's not faking it… yet.
14:48 No way? Surely you have something to go on, the castle ruins? Her hometown?
20:08 I'm never going to get over that seam in Hien's hair.
21:55 Ah yes, the cycle of mostly-justified vengeance. Yotsuyu wanted vengeance for what happened to her, and now they want the same.
22:56 Listen to the kid! I get the vengeance thing, but that Yotsuyu is dead, unless you bring her back with shit like this, unless you recreate her.
24:54 Unfortunately, she has started to see what she did. She won't be a child for long, and we can only hope that now, having experienced this new concept of "being treated kind of good", she will be strong enough to leave her wrath for special occasions.
27:24 I still hate that he shares the name of a pretty good beer. Unfortunate coincidence, probably, but the association is there now.
29:05 Both of you deserve to be impaled.
29:44 I wish I could invent new methods of execution for you ilk.
30:41 Man, there's so many things I want to type, but I'm sure YT wouldn't like me typing them. So instead I'll say this: Yotsuyu will hopefully be treated better under Hien than under this PoS's "loving family".
32:02 Hold up, are those caskets?! Some exchange this is.
35:00 "Mistreated" is a very mild way of putting it, yes.
37:40 Sure, let me just get a knife…
40:46 Like, I know I've been thirsting after Yotsuyu, but I wanna stop and give her VA due credit. She's done a great job of getting all this right, even if I'm not a fan of the amnesia.
41:33 Justice and vengeance can be the same thing.
44:30 Justice was done. Sort of, I've stated my opinion on what they deserved. It's a shame that after all the amnesia's potential for her to start over, the writers decide to just reawaken the same thing that they scrapped…
I had not been playing for long, and reached end-game level cap in time for these patches, so this particular stretch of MSQ still resonates the most with me (Just behind the MSQ of The Vault)
Won’t lie, Asahi and Yotsuyu’s parents had it coming. Gen after receiving that vision vindictively kicked the father’s corpse and then immolated them both. It wasn’t solving anything, but it was a good vent. A terrible scenario already, but made far worse with Asahi’s schemes. I do not look forward to the next episode. 😞