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In all the years of playing video games, no other game dev has done anything a 10th as deep, & this is what all of the raids are like too … no way do they (the dev) do anything to this level, w/o enjoying it… mind blown!
One might foeget that, in one tier, we went not only through abyssos but also tartarus as the deepest place in pandaemonium. Given the story bests I'd thin that the next tier won't be named after athena's ambitions (resurrectuon/godhood) but maybe, since it is now right there in Hades' domain ( he was the keeper of the aetherial sea before Hydaelin), it might be named Elysion since it could also symbolize that ultimate reward she seeks and hephaistos wanted to grasp for her.
Maybe we even fight some heroic souls trapped by her or something. Definitely no creatures anymore.
The sword is shown in an endwalker quest, so it's definitely still there.
Does anyone know, has the power behind the Ascian's ability to regenerate been explored?
It doesn't appear to be an Ancient's innate ability, but rather something the Ascians have used (and shared) to oversee the rejoining.
If it hasn't been, then I'm going to speculate that whatever Athena is working on, results in this ability – tying the raid into the greater historical narrative.
We see that Lahabrea currently deems "it" to be a detriment to the star, hence rejecting her work.
But in a world where the star has been sundered and they Need to survive millennia to rejoin it, then he might very well consider it the "greater good" option.
Story aside, the savage raids are banger omg! I am enjoying it so much. I'm about 50% into P7S now.
I started at the perfect time last tier since most of the fights were quite easy. But holy shit they aren't playing this time. Great pacing, fun mechanics and awesome spectacles. (except for Chadbuncle screw that fight lol!)
Spoiler to the Magic DPS Job story here: In that quest line: A bunch of Souls were pulled out of the sword and put in an empty body, The body then became a Blasphemy (So its Aether was all but destroyed) but it was clear Laha wasn't among them, Good chance he was set free though but unable to obtain a body before the group left.
I dont believe we have messed with the timeline in either case as well, Its a big case of Predestination i think. We were supposed to be there for our very timeline to exist.
There was a pretty big hint this patch that we are going to end up in the past as a pretty major character.
His Savage form also looks like the Medical symbol Caduceus.
Matt: "God we're eating so good!"
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Yoshi-P & Developers: "Thou shalt fester and feast! A lost lamb fed to the beast- so plan if you're able a spot at this table!~
Genuinely, thanks for these lore videos. The only other FFXIV content creator who delved this deeply into the mythology behind the stories was Ethys Asher (that I'm aware of), who has since retired from content creation. It's a very fascinating glimpse into themes and stories that some of us have only a passing knowledge of and helps to deepen our appreciation for the game and its story in ways that might otherwise go right over some of our heads. Cheers.
some good ass speculation here
It sometimes makes me wonder if those claiming what's in the JP version actually bothered to look at what's in the JP version. It's not Venus, or "Veneth"… Her name is literally spelled out in the content supporter menu as "VENAS". I have no idea why they changed it in the localizations, but just like the boat direction fiasco, I tend to just blame it on Koji Fox.
"it's trite, it's cliche, but we'll all cry a little anyway"
Honestly this kinda sums up my general feelings about a *lot* of FF14. While the game does have a few genuinely thought provoking, insightful and even surprising twists; most of the time they're pretty damn on the nose and dare I say very cliche and trope heavy.
But. They consistently execute it with enough style and enough heart that I just love it anyways. And while I don't think they'll ever reach the high of Shadowingers ever again because of how unique the overall story and situation of FF14 was as a whole and the way it culminated at that point. I do think that if they can maintain this level of narrative excellence it won't matter because me and millions of people will be here for it.
My only fear is that they finally push something too hard, too far. Endwalker imo had a few moments of very near shark jumping, but they pulled it off in the end. But I'm worried they might not next time if they get too out there.
Oh by the ways since we are here with Thordan's sword, do play, I forgot which specific one, the role quests at Radz at Han. The sword is definitely still around.
9:30 We didn't screw up. Lahabrea screwed up. He did not destroy the stone like he said he would.
Ahh the PUG man is back with his 15min of fame
Get well soon Matt! Very insightful video. However, does the reveal of Elidibus make no impact? Its been a while, and my memory is a bit hazy of that part…
We still have the one detail tied to pandemonium itself and that's the existence of pandemonium warden from ff11 and I'm expecting it to show up for the final tier
The next tier won't be Pandemonium. It will be Arubboth. The last boss will be a resurrected Lahabrea and he will look like the Angelic Mateus from FF2 Soul of Rebirth.
A comment at a meeting: "We can't keep spreading Lord of the Rings butter on more bread, it's time to move on to the myriad exquisite modern stories"
Without spoiling too much, do/research the Caster 85-90 Role Questline. The King’s Sword is involved in that too, albeit briefly!
Sooooo…. Venus and Veneth is the new Aeris and Aerith. Got it.
This research that is Athena was doing had to have been completed before the sundering. All of the abilities that she wanted out of it are iconic Ascian abilities. Lahabrea clearly states that what she wants is impossible, but the Ascians do it all the time. This is very much a part of the Ascian origin story.
all these videos talking about ascension, and yet doesn't connect the Pandaemonium raids to the 24man raids where we have the 12 who have ascended to Godhood
The name thing reminds me of cracking up the fist time I saw them chanting Satan! Satan! in DBZ! Japanese culture FTW.
Lahabrea/Hephaistos accepting his "dark side" to become whole would fit with the whole FFIV theme we've had going in the MSQ. Athena dying to come back later as the big bad of the raid would fit in with what Mateus did in FFII, dying and bringing Pandaemonium into the living realm from the underworld.
I got a little confused when you're talking about the two parts of Lahabrea's personality coming back together. If you're saying the unified Lahabrea is who we see in ARR, well he's one of the 3 Unsundered. So he would have had to be humpty dumptied before his soul returned to the Aetherial Sea for that to be true. Now, ARR Lahabrea could have been one of the pieces, and maybe when he dies in HW his soul is healed in the aetherial sea – before he's sent off to be reborn again. It does bring up the question – if an unsundered person dies, are they reborn as 1 person? or are they reborn as many, sharded as the rest of us? I'm not sure that's ever explained – idk that there was opportunity.
Lahabrea's japanese voice actor is just so damn good!
Square enix lul can't write a decent story to save their life, still better than blizzard tho I guess
love this content brother! Keep being you boo boo!
I still remember the anastasis prediction from the last video months ago, given how the story has developed, we could have an Athena resurrection thing going. Not sure about the resurrecting lahabrea from ascalon thing although with the azyz lla mention, it could be a route they take.
Then again the devs sometimes love to subvert expectations such as how the Eden raid series didn't end up having an Ultimecia final enemy so by now anything's possible.
I’m thinking that Athena has possibly possessed Claudien, due to the soul crystal, and that an Athena-possessed Claudien might be the bad guy in present day
We already know that the deepest layer of Pandemonium is called Tartaros, which is where Athena has been carrying out her most private research. What's a label for part of, if not all of the Greek underworld? Tartarus.
Remember, the entire facility was deep, deep underground. While Amaurot and such lie in ruins, Pandemonium would be fine even if the entire of Elpis fell on it.
Pandemonium has not been transported through time, or moved at all. It was ALWAYS in the aetherial sea, the bottom parts of the facility reaching deep in to the underworld while Athena researched her endgame. After her death, Claudien as Eric has pulled the rest of the facility down to complete her work.
Good old Hedge Money. She's about the pay the landscaper… IN BLOOD.
No no its very Resident Evil then One Winged Angel. Hades would but cause Laha was unsundered all along so it can still be Eric if he takes the seat before the End of days.
I love the pandemonium story line. Absolutely the most Jerry Springer shit i have seen in this game!
"Throw wide open the gates". That comes to mind with Hydaelyn's death. All that was held back on the other side was released into the world, much as opening Pandora's box, which incidentally was a heavy theme of FFVI.
Greek myth is important to forecasting what may come next in the Raid series. Equally important is knowing Victorian Gothic literature: namely Frankenstein, Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, and Dracula.
Frankenstein, as well known, discovered the Spark of Life (one of the attacks in P7), and created a living being but was so disgusted by his creation he rejected it. His creation was so profoundly affected by this rejection, he resolved to destroy both Frankenstein's life and reputation, which oddly enough happens to Lahabrea after P7 is completed. His reputation is ruined.
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde was about a man who discovered how to transform himself into another man to "indulge his vices". Was Lahabrea really so disgusted with Athena's plan as he made himself out to be? Perhaps because of his fascination with creating Phoenix, Athena purposely sought him out as she felt he may have been aligned with her interest in understanding the Spark of Life. He may have been more involved than he lets on.
Incidentally, one of the themes of Dracula was that the heroes needed to have "all of the knowledge" and "all of the help" they could get. They needed the knowledge of the past and the present. Now that the Raid series straddles both past and present, this is probably not a coincidental theme. Another theme was memories may not be entirely reliable. "Good" Lahabrea may not have reliable memories of what actually occurred.
Edit: Additionally, I forgot an important theme through all three. Hubris.
9:00 have you done the Ishgard role quests for endwalker?! I can't remember if the sword are used on that
It's crazy how close Greek lore is to some of the hentai that I've read.
Why the Lahabrea from our timeline did not remember us?
so me thinking, what if in the original timeline Pandaemonium was destroyed by Lahabrea? but it reappeared since we convinced him not to destroy it?
This speculations are great! But there are still questions… Why lahabrea didn't remember us? He couldn't lose his memories cause he wasn't at Ktisis when Hermes activated Kairos, and both OG lahabrea and Shadow Hephaistos seen us So merging both of them should still mean that he knows WoL. Unless arr and onwards Lahabrea was Athena but i doubt it somehow.
Lahabrea is unsundered.
Thus raid teir is gonna show the exact point where our lahabrea snaps and goes all evil scientist
I'm just waiting for Typhon to show up in Tartaros.
I love how in FF it all makes sense and fits.
What an amazing team.
I did not expect sudden Tom Cardy, all my youtubes are converging
Lahabrea is just a title, I had the feeling the Lahabrea of our time is Eric
The whole Chekhov's gun thing with Ascalon is partly what me think Lahabrea wasn't dead when I finished Heavensward. But he never showed up… and eventually I just accepted that maybe I misread it. Now I have to wonder, did they always intend to come back to Lahabrea after all? Mind you, Ascalon did get some use, but I don't think it expunges the possibility of Lahabrea still existing in some form.
A friend of mine upon doing the raid made this observation. The music to P8 is a mix of themes from the Four Lords raid and one of the Tempest Duty's (Can't remember which).
Also during the fight with Hephestos he transforms into the tiger, the snake, and the Phoenix.
My theory ever since lahabrea appears in the raid is just that he's going to do some kind of sacrifice of himself in the next raid tier and Eric will actually take up the seat of lahabrea and end up being the one that we kept smacking around in ARR