FFXIV Speedrunners EXPOSED for Cheating (Drama)



Final Fantasy 14 speedkill team “exception” has just been banned from fflogs for cheating in their clears. Xeno reacts to the Google Docs with all the evidence.

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49 thoughts on “FFXIV Speedrunners EXPOSED for Cheating (Drama)”

  1. It's crazy to me how "I'm good, so I shouldn't need to cheat." can quickly become "I'm good, so I deserve to win by any means necessary." Investing that much of your ego into any one thing just seems unhealthy.

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  2. I actually find this very cool! That must be a lot of work to code and also it is amazing to see it working! Personally, I think they really missed the mark when they bragged about it. If I could build something like this I'd come out as a TAS, take the ban, and brag about my programing skills.

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  3. I think it's a bad take to compare video game cheating to physical sports. It's not cheating to have a better body because you don't have a choice of your genetics. It's cheating to use means to augment your body beyond physical training. There's a difference; one is a choice.

    Just because a baseball player doesn't have good eyesight doesn't mean the player with good eyesight cheated.

    I don't know if I misunderstood your point or not.

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  4. Just because you believe everyone cheats doesn't mean you should downplay discovery of cheaters. It's still reprehensible and you deserve all of the distrust you garner from cheating. If you're going to perpetuate the idea that everyone cheats than that is the fastest way to kill interest in your sport since you begin to call into question everyone who performs at the top. This is why we don't have official support from Square Enix for world first clears anymore since even though they're a scumbag corporation they at least know public perception matters. Honestly, this is an L take from Xeno.

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  5. Preach, brother! I've been saying forever that not only noobs cheat or P2W. The guy who knows the game will even hide the cheats better, know what not to do and stuff. Where to fake scan after having spotted the guy through terrain using their peripheral vision. A noob who cheats gets reported within an hour. A pro who cheats is the predator. What do you do against the guy who's great at the game AND P2W the best gear? He used all that time you spent grinding to get better at the game, now what?

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  6. The best part is these players who got banned literally don't care. They probably laughed when they saw this google doc like "damn these nerds got super salty and had me live rent free in their heads"

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  7. They cheated in pve while in a group with each other. I gotta ask, why do we care? It hurts no one but themselves. (Enjoyment of the game etc.) I support them being banned from FF Logs because sure, its a 3rd party site that tracks scores. But even FF Logs as a concept is a joke, it's typically just people cheating to degrees that they deem acceptable.

    For example you typically hear one of the following from people justifying their level of cheating:
    "I use acrs but not full automation", I use splatoon but not acrs", "I use cactbot but not splatoon", "I use pixel perfect but not cactbot" like who gets to decide whose cheating and whose not anymore? Then once again why does it matter in pve? It's an attempt at gatekeeping scores on a 3rd party site that Squex will ban you for talking about in game anyways.

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  8. Xenos is so right about the cheating part at higher levels cause similarly to gaming, this is a huge problem in sports too with doping. For many high level athletes, the benefits outweigh the consequences. And there are many cases where the athlete in question probably didn't even need PEDs to win but still took them. There's quite a bit of academic literature and reporting on the topic.

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  9. 1 minute in and already bad take, every single extremely competitive sweaty gamer i know loves making games harder by ranking up playing hardest most mechanical characters in every game.

    those cheaters (and probably 80% of others who think fflog ranking is a real archevment) only care about the bragging rights of being #1. they don't care about the glory of combat.

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  10. TOP: WF cheated by JP team
    6.4: JP team (very likely) used cousins for LB cheese on their r1 speedkilll of a1
    Now: r1 speeds team (also JP) potentially cheated again

    And JP likes to get on their high horse about other regions cheating…

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  11. The knocks backs are so hard to aim in this game, the game seems to toss you wildy around. Like if your facing slighty off or server lag or whatever the cause. No way could this be done with 8 human players being knocked back to the same exact perfect pixel. If you get knocked back to the general area and have to correct afterward youve done the mech correctly if your a human, but cleary they cheated to do this.

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  12. Watch a lot of Karl Jobst. Common thing he says is if you're good at something, you're going to be more likely to cheat because you know how it works and can more easily get away with it than someone who's bad.

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