Tier lists are one of the worst things the World of Warcraft Exodus brought to FFXIV.
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0:00 Job strength and tier lists going into Savage
0:08 Every job has cleared the Ultimate Raids
0:23 These tier lists are playing on fear for clicks in my opinion
1:19 I HAVE BEEN SENT SO MANY CONCERNED MESSAGES
1:59 Savage patch is TONIGHT!
2:37 IMPORTANT POINTS TO INFORM EVERYONE!
3:00 Every job has cleared ultimate many times
3:27 Savage raiding expectations are out of line
4:32 First week full clear? Might be a concern but are you really expecting that?
5:07 You’re making mistakes
6:18 BUT WE ARE IGNORING A HUGE POINT!
6:56 The FF14 developers REALLY care about balance in FFXIV
7:45 Pick a job based on what feels good to you!
8:15 If you enjoy a job you’ll want to improve more!
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Also, most of the Game Journalists have no idea what they are doing anyway since they are the ones that usually bring those out. lol
Good jobs = one you enjoy
Bad jobs = ones you have to do to get an emotionally validating mount
Thank you……….Thank you……… finally, someone who says it.
I am a casual player. I get daily crap over it. I am not exaggerating even. Because I am a casual player, I am considered a 'bad grey parser'.
Yet each time I am discouraged, I hear Yoshi-P's voice ring in my ear: "Play how you wish and do not let others influence your playstyle".
I never am accepted in Statics, heck, even WOW players, new, who did the first time Savage Eden 9-12 refused me because I said "I am not into parsing".
The reason why? Because it brings anxiety, competition, makes me cause more mistakes, and not focus on the fight but my buttons. Self-hatred for failing expectation.
Not to mention; my infamous 300 ping no matter which DC I play in! I can never, EVER optimize, no matter how hard I'd try. So early on, I adopted myself "Casual player"
Yes, I have done every savage since I started, I queue it, I PF it, but I always clear within the first month of release – the last fight, sometimes draws over the next month.
Regardless, I can do it, and I am happy about it. When I mention these, people yell at me for 'getting carried', completely disregarding my hard work and contribution.
Honestly, FFXIV does not deserve a 'community award' in my opinion but that's a story for another time. It is also why Yoshi-P refuses parses to be fully implemented.
No matter what I do it is seen as 'I am a bad player who gets carried', or worse 'you don't know how to play your job'. I have been called an inexperienced player since the beginning.
No matter how I master it, no matter how I perform, they look at the numbers which are heavily influenced by my ping and not to mention my heavy ADD and DID.
and yes, that plays a huge part when your dot runs out and you did not refresh, but any regular player tends to, it doesn't make you terrible.
I hate to parse, and I will never support it for all the grief and hurt it causes me still to this day, exclusion and horrible name callings just because I am a casual player who loves raiding.
Every job is designed to succeed in the FFXIV raid tier. Yoshi-p himself has a raid static and when new savage rolls out, he will prog as well. He sees when things need a change too.
The numbers are just so inconsistent and unfair, for instance, if they'd take MY numbers, they think it is how I best perform when in reality I will never find out how good I am or bad.
Because I am unable to get a good connection, I always clip, and I am in full delay. Since the beginning of time, it made me fearful of DPS. But this tier I want to overcome my fear.
My friends and I have been memeing about DRK getting nerfed into oblivion, but we all know it's a perfectly fine class and we're just joshing. Flawed does not mean bad.
do all of these points apply to pugs? Do people even pug savage? I have no idea. Actually asking cause thats probably what im going to end up trying to do.
Sorry but no. The "World of Warcraft Exodus" did not bring tier lists to FFXIV. I'm not going to lie a lot of your videos as of late are just clickbait titles with no real information outside of personal anecdotes. Perfect example is your leveling EXP videos of late. Not much else to say except do better.
This is a really good point to emphasize.
One thing that should tip people off that job comp isn't a huge factor is the fact that high-end raiders hardly ever complain about balance. When they do complain, its usually about how the class plays. Take Bard mains in this expansion. I've seen a ton of high-end Bard mains complaining about the class because they think the changes are unfun, despite the fact that as of 6.01, Bard brings way more rDPS than it should considering the other Ranged DPS jobs' numbers. In ShB, Scholar was one of the most complained about jobs by high end players, despite the fact that the "meta" healer comp was SCH/AST and the 2nd most picked was SCH/WHM. Balance just isn't as big a deal in FFXIV unless you are literally trying to win a world first race, in which case you don't need me telling you this.
I think warriors the easiest tank to heal lmfao
tbh ive never once ever seen people complaining about people playing certain jobs. no once cares as long as you perform well and dont keep dying lol
Most articles about the tiers are made by the same game journos that cant beat cuphead tutorials vs tier list by YTers that normal start with "any job can clear any content"
Going into Sav as a Drk and Rpr because I got all this edge and nothing to cut.
THANK YOU! People need to hear this. I've always been an advocate of "The best job is the one you can play comfortably". Ninja might be better than Dragoon for a patch here and there number wise for example, but it doesn't mean anything if I'm bad at Ninja.
The classes are so balanced that you can clear any content on any job. Hell, my static took double ranged phys into Eden Savage 5-8 AND 9-12. It was perfectly fine. Because the classes are so balanced, how well you can play a job is the definitive factor between it being good or not. The numbers only show how good classes are to comparative skill level. Play what you like, play what you yourself are good at, and just have fun.
the only two tiers in an FF14 tier list are S and S+
Whips out the Peace-And-Love bat
“So, where do you need us Cole?”
In other words, learn your job and you'll be fine in any composition. 🙂