Not sure how to play around how each healer works in Final Fantasy 14? I’ve got you covered! Anything from their general toolkit, to how they tend to actually play in detail is covered here.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 General Overview of Healer Types
03:20 White Mage
06:56 Astrologian
09:49 Scholar
13:12 Sage
16:08 Summary
17:39 Fun Fact
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I main as a warrior most 90 content my heals know to leave me alone unless I allow myself to go below 30%. Most of the time unless I screw something up I have no use for heals unless they just want to.
A borderline suicidal but somewhat noteworthy thing you'll occasionally see with particularly headstrong White Mages is them intentionally pulling a single mob off of you- they might be fishing for a few Liturgy of the Bell procs. Every time that healer gets poked by the annoying imp or jellyfish, the entire team (including the tank) gets a 400 potency heal- after 5 GCDs, it's like 2000 free heal potency. Rarely needed, but it's a fun thing myself and a few Free Company people do.
Am I like… one of the few white mages that heals obsessively if anyone is missing any HP or insta resurrects if even one person dies no matter who it is…?
As a Warrior, I have to ask: What is a healer?
I had someone once tell me that "warning healers isn't necessary any good healer knows when an invuln is up" and I feel like that's an incredibly toxic position to take. Sometimes shit on screen gets chaotic and you don't have time to stare lovingly at the buff list so warn your goddamn healers please, it takes 2 seconds to turn an invuln into a party chat macro with a sound effect and it saves both you and the healer time and panic thank you for coming to my TED talk
One small tip to also go by; NEVER trust your healer in any capacity when you play a tank, always have your own heals ready and or potions for emergency heal. (this also applies to friends who need sleep lol)
as a long time player i can say that with certain…. just because your HP is nearly down with a whm fopr examble never expect em to actually pop a benediction lol
especially if you play with randoms, try a regular pull to pull to see how well the healer does. and also how fast the enemies die.
Remember what JoCat said: "The minimum amount of HP a tank needs is 1"
Basically, it's nice to play a bit a everything, so we can understand how healing works from a tank's pov, and same in reverse.
One thing I should add is : Trust your WHM, and don't use your panic button "invu" if you didn't see the benediction pop. Nothing worse as a WHM to click on bene, then see the tank use invu 0.5s later, cause he was scared, and go back to 1hp.
Thanks for doing this! Now I feel like I need to level every healing job to gain a better understanding 🤣 Cheers 🍻
just quickly wanna comment
lillys are never a DPS gain
to get misery it 4 gcds for 1240 vs 4 gcds of lets say glair (310×4=1240) Lillys are DPS Nutral a good whm will try to heal u only with lillys and only as u need them the only exseption is if they have to move Lilly can provide a movment window without a dps loss however if on a single target and ur dia has less then 15 seconds remaining dia is a better movment option for dps 😛 sorry not really nessary form a tank perspective but any whm watching this needs to keep that in mind
laughs in warrior main
tl;dr wall to wall pull or you're wasting everyone's time
WHM: wait for their stun duration to fall off from Holy to pop your tank CDs
SCH/AST/SGE: do whatever
Chain strategem somtimes… lol. as SCH is my main healer, i can confirm that i also use chain strategem somtimes. in fact, its CD is actually 2-3x longer than whats written on it. 🤣
You'll tend to notice with Barrier healers the first pull they play cautious, then if theres no issues you'll notice them start to play chicken with your HP.
I tend to gauge the DPS during the first pull if its good I rely on my passive healing and shields to get through pulls and just dps like crazy.
Whats that? Yes i did just spam that shield for the crit, its my mana dont you judge me!
._. I just want new fairy models…. Like the ones from ShadowBringers.
In all seriousness, I know wtf I am doing, and the "akshually" guys who try and backseat heal give me headaches.
Unless I want you to die or crap hits the fan, I will keep you alive, even on pulls you previously couldn't break the mechanic on.
I was asked to fill in for a healer in one of my groups, and for whatever reason, half the group kept getting KOed at one specific part. I managed to keep the other half alive, then popped LB3 and we finished. I became a regular after that. Nice to not be a benchwarmer.
And then there are Bards who know how to use their healing and shield abilities at the right moments…
Troubadour, my love 🥰
I've not fully watched the video, only about a few minutes in, but my two cents into the pot; As a Tank, don't pay attention to your hp numbers, your healer is doing that for you <3
I'm currently informing myself to start my first character as a healer!
As a Monster Hunter Veteran, I noticed something specifically, DPS on all cost.
Even if you're supporter or tank, in the end, DPS matters.
In the end everyone want to spend less time doing an instant/raids what so ever, aslong everyone is alive, then the job has been done well.
Great insight to the perspective of the tank and I'll try to keep them in mind! 🙂
As a healer i know why they do it.. but I just don't do it to people. I don't want to scare the shit out of a tank in a random unimportant dungeon just for the sake of uptime. It's silly. Just keep 'm nice and topped up…or at the very least above 50%. The difference is neglegable in random roulettes or you're running with random people. I did some tests with this and it really didn't make much of a difference at all. It made a difference when we ran it with a group of the same good people that knew how to run their classes… which in roulettes is rare. And the average tank really doesn't like this low hp stuff.. mostly because they don't know.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The problem that I come across is 90% of barrier healers in particular sage players play the sage, as if they were playing a white mage and the entire team, suffers and often wipes because of it even when the sage player is level 90 and they should know how to play their class by now. Now I’m saying this as a person who has hit level 90 on every class in the game so I’ve played every healer in the game, and I know how each one of them plays and I often find that most other people who play healer even at level 90 are lacking And I’m not the only one who’s noticed this my endgame friends have commented on this as well and because they’ve gotten used to my style of healing, which is very aggressive healing with DPS when everyone is healed always ensuring that I keep the team alive first and foremost and DPS second that they don’t like playing with randoms anymore as healers so now when I play with them more often then not they ask me to play the healer because they don’t trust anyone else to do it.
I'm a savage WAR tank and a SCH healer for funsies. As a warrior, I see: WHM = I'm gonna get low so keep my own cooldowns on point, AST = same as WHM but try not to pop my good stuff when their good stuff is also about to go out, SCH and SGE = happy tank noises, I'll be fine unless something goes horribly wrong and even then I'll still probably be fine if I'm in level 60 content or higher. (I've solo'd a LOT of stuff as a warrior lately.) As a SCH, I prefer a WAR tank because I know they're basically immortal and it's all the more AoW I'll be able to do, but the only tank I get frustrated with are "cooldowns are for bosses only" types. Tanks, dear dear tanks, IT'S THE OPPOSITE. Bosses don't need cooldowns nearly as much as a pack of 10 angry trash mobs wailing on you do.
For WHM, it's always worth clipping your GCD after Holy to use Assize.
And I didn't see mention of the concept of dumping lily's between mob pulls for damage.
I usually throw down a bubble for one pack, and use temperance for another.
Most tools designed to mitigate aoe damage are always worth using for pulls since boss damage is a joke. (think Haima and Panhaima which both are useful for mobs)
I absolutely hate the way the FF14 community treats the healer role. By pressuring healers to always be DPSing and not heal everyone to full, they just make gameplay unnecessarily stressful for everyone. Just heal to full and stop expecting healers to do 2 jobs… you know, like literally every other game.
bruh idk why this was in my recomended, I don't even play FFXIV, can't afford it lmao
also, FYI you start the video with 0 FFXIV context, and there is none in the title either
I spent the first 10 seconds wondering if that was for a specific videogame, or talking about gaming in general, or all classic MMORPGs, I only started understanding when you started dropping specific classes names.
Just FYI tank, if you don't use mits and help me out by casting Clemency, I'll start counting on it. 🙂 Sincerely a fellow Tank playing healer.
Healer main here
As long as you're hitting defensive CDs and you have 1hp, you're fine. Anything above that is icing on the cake.
"You don't have to be scared of it. It just heals you." are the most reassuring words ive ever heard, as a newbie tank that gets jumpscared by any line that points at me, i definitely would have been like "uhhh i dont know this fight mechanic"
I don't mind white mages letting my health get low before a bene, but please keep in mind that if you let it get TOO low, I could conceivably get killed in the time it takes for your button press to register in the game's netcode. Seen that happen too often lol
As a war main, healers are a suggestion
THANK YOU! – All WHM in the game.
As WHM main, I actually just pop Medica II at the beginning of a fight, pop my dot on most mobs or just the tankiest ones, and then HOLY SPAM until BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY for OG Holy damage. I'll use Benison throughout, and also otherwise pop HoTs fairly regularly until the fights are over. However, I've definitely been caught off-guard by dungeons that crit for crazy amounts.
As a long time healer, my main target is always the tank, secondary targets are DPS, cast DOTs where I can if I'm able, and focus on party heals when necessary. Sage I found has more flexibility when it comes to damage output, for example if I cast a crit heal barrier on the tank, I can focus ether on the other party members, or push our my AoE attacks.
my perception as a tank main is this " will i survive the next hit?" if the answer is yes it makes no different if i am at 100% hp or 0.5% hp healer is doing their job right as far as i am concerned
Speaking as a sprout who came from mobas: tanking feels incredibly good in this game. Most of the time, I can just walk into a pack and trust my healers to keep me alive. The only time I’ve ever gotten close to dying in a dungeon so far was when my healer started looting mid pull. Thaaaaat made me nervous
Sage really does get silly and I love it for it.
Let me shield myself and run into that AoE real quick.
Let's keep spamming the shield on the tank so I can get more toxicon… I know I can just use my regular AoE but call me the toxi avenger.
Oh I'm low on MP? Time to waste some Addergall.
All those mobs are in a row… I got a big fuck you laser for that. Oh everyone is about to die? I guess I should have saved it.
I swear, SGE is just so rewarding to DPS with even if at low levels you just turn into an F1 monkey unless the DPS are idiots.
It's hard to tell a good healer from a terrible healer up until the last second. Where the good healer will top you up just as keikaku and the bad healer is just starting to cast Cure II.
Or at least that was the conclusion we got with a friend back in SB/early ShB. I guess things may have changed since then, but I've been healing since then so haven't had to think about it.
What could this healer possibly have to do that's more important than healing?
Watching the no thoughts head empty yoshi video.
As a sage please don't grab the whole dungeon unless I'm ready, or run too far ahead of me, I cannot heal from across the map…
I don't have many nuke healing options, so I have to be protactive in preventing the damage instead. Be kind to your local barrier healers <3
I play Warrior, I'm not even sure if there's a healer in the instance with me lol
Tak for denne video. Jeg er selv en WHM og har haft tanks der ikke forstår hvorfor jeg gør som jeg gør. Nemt bare at sende dem til din video 🙂
i love scholar.
so mutch utility.
and seamingly endless manapool.
rez 7, 2 min later 80% mp.
as my old mate told me: everything over 1% hp is good enough.
he was playing main tank but was a main healer in the addon before.
what should i say…. it works 😀 also some tanks are such drama queens. "50% hp? i use clemency, just in case" – okey. seems like you want to tank AND heal yourself. fine by me. i have at least 2 DD's which are thinking that AOE's are swimmingpools. glad you helped me a little here and there 😀
I feel like all healers benefit from playing tanks or at least knowing the kit of each tank
My first healer was Scholar, which I played to 90 before trying any other healer seriously. I came to a realization: barrier healers are for the type of people who still have faith in their fellow FFXIV players, who believe the tank won't need saving every single pull because they use their mitigation correctly. Pure healers are for when you've given up and embraced the chaos, knowing you can save them no matter how few of their buttons they press.
I press LD,i get healed :,)
Greater than 40%: I am the invincible god of this video game.
Below 40%: HALP!
99% of the time, as long the party didn't wipe, everything is fine!
As a SCH main, it never ceases to amaze me just how much a difference basic skill levels are when it comes to tanking, perhaps never more pronounced than watching a GNB blow through all your mit cooldowns and is still dying like he's half naked.
I tend to take the "If I'm not dead, I'm not worrying" approach as tank. I trust in my healers and if I do die, then I just reduce my aggressiveness when it comes to mob pulling.