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are people just now complaining about echo?? a thing that's been in the game forever? also saying the challenge is gone when the raids havent really been that challenging this whole expansion is funny
i didnt really ask for it but i guess it makes farming glam from savage easier lol
i cleared months ago and now im really just trying to get the Maiming Chest piece for Reaper Glam and 2 weapon coffers for Reaper and Sage
im seeing so many prog parties for it, i feel like people actually waited for echo to try doing the tier
which is concerning
I'm sad about echo!! Since I'm still trying to push myself to a higher average I now have to go out of my way to find a parse group, and they take sooo long to fill. Over an hour most times!
There’s plenty of people who would feel comforted knowing some unique drops from Savage become that much more attainable as content becomes older and approachable with new item levels
nobody joins no echo runs, forget min ilvl so yeah its not simple, its impossible to get a party going anymore unless youre a 90+ parser
I had a pf up with no echo the entire day and got max 2 people in, i lost all interest in doing reclears and i was having fun doing them for months, echo takes all the fun out of the fight and since nobody wants to play no echo, there is no alternative than to find a specific static to cater to you, whats the point in raiding if you have a third wheel forced on you
Just turn echo off if you care that much?? How is this even a complaint. Farming with echo is amazing
Absolutely no one likes staying in E10S longer than they have to
At this point I think people are bitching for the sake of bitching lol.
Echo is good since it enables more players to experience more savage content.if you don't like it ,just disable it 😀
You say the tier has been easy for a while. I've been dying every day in E12S for 2 weeks, am I a joke to you? 🙁
To be honest, I don't understand why this is such a big thing anyway.
You can switch it off if you don't want it.
My static uses it because we are sitting on E12S for a while now thanks to some problems with members and that way we can finally get into phase 2 more steady
The state of pf now that echo is out, oh nooo
Another video about why the echo should be nerfed……
Farming E12s somehow got harder with echo. People got complacent already and ignore mechs and kill the run.
People don't complain about echo actually. They complain that the fights gets easier, so newer player will achieve the same things they did but with less troubles. It's always the same thing : elitism.
Lower the difficulty of contents that are meant to be hard. Challenging hard contents not for challenge, but for the sake of completing it, what?
If you can enter the fight with "no echo" option then i don't see why people are complaining to start with.
As for logs, people are going to face a arsh reality once the number squish happens.
I agree that ultimates are easier (dps wise) now, but you still need to do mechanics and after having 3 ultimates and years of raid experience, you start to see ultimates are not as hard as people make them out to be.
I progged uwu and ucob in SB and even if people try to say my uwu and ucob don't count, since I finished them in ShB they can see logs and know damage is definitely not my issue (I cleared tea in ShB). Damage wasnt my problem, getting a team was. But now finally the ultimates community is growing!
Believe it or not, there's a small community that do old content at minilvl for fun. 🙂
Problem with echo is people don't like turning that off. Tbh, log all 3. I've only got logs on first patch because I finish before the second half and I don't care enough. I'm a PS4 user and people are assholes to tank players, talking like they don't get to parse even when they are parse runs! So it just drains me too much to do it past the 8 or so weeks. And I'm fine just having one patch of logs. Having orange and purple is good enough especially if they are only weeklies!
E11s definitely needed a damn echo that cycles and enrage was a fucking joke and it’s not alot of time to dps that damn pirate always disappearing and doing stuff
DFO has something like this where raids and some instances get perm buffs.
Echo isn't bad. It's just too soon to have it this tier.
Echo is fine. Some people don't want to be progging E12S all the way to 6.0.
We already played long enough and got our personal good and best moments, the days when echo is exist means its already transition months, like game cycle as nature that you cant change.
whether the new players doing the harder/easier than us, it doesnt matter.
what im doing now is just make sure my new friends and other people who just got into the game has best moments and experience with us mentors accompanied them through easiest to hardest contents.
and nah i dont parse, i dont need to have the weak shitty ego mentality for the needs to brag and shows off 24/7 in FF14.
even though i got purple and oranges, i just hid the fflogs so no one will know, because it was never supposed to exist in FF14.
Its simple for farming echo is great, for want to otmize your job or doing parse runs turn the echo off.
As always "muh parse".
People has been streamrolling old content since echo + unsynch are a thing. This complaint makes no sense to me lmao.
people complaining about parses when they litterally created an "Echo" category in fflogs to compete with other people using Echo … it doesn't change anything in the end. Just people whinning over nothing as usual.
Your top-tier gear is about to become obsolete to something the NPC sells for 50K gil or you get from mandatory MSQ's in a few months. Get over it, stop worrying about what other people are doing or if they are wearing what you are, and play the game on your own terms by setting minimum ilvl and no echo if you're that awesome, without concern for others gear. This has happened in every version of this game right before the next expansion since AAR. They act like it's something new. Square is here to keep people paying subscriptions through Endwalker. Making soon to be obsolete endgame easier is one way to do that.