FFXIV Endwalker – This Story Hurts So Good



They just don’t stop with the emotional gut punching, do they?

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26 thoughts on “FFXIV Endwalker – This Story Hurts So Good”

  1. Honestly I really didn’t like Venats reasoning regarding Hermes, it frustrates me because of how much sympathy he’s given for doing something aweful with his “Fair Determination” being legit nonsense, because he makes victims of everyone else in the universe as he does so.. It’s honestly why he and Fandaniel are my most disliked characters.

    Though since there’s an irony to what happens to all the Ancients involved in Elpis, Venat who believed nothing was impossible let the knowledge she knew trap her to play out events as they were meant too, which I like, and Yoshi confirmed she intentionally left an opening for the Paragons to escape. Her knowledge of the future became a prison unto itself as she operated within a stable time loop.

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  2. She sundered us to subject mankind to suffering. But in doing so, make us stronger, more resilient to find meaning in life and not surrender to the despair that the Ancients fell to. If we can find a way to overcome despair, that will be what we need to stop the Final Days. That’s what I got from it the first time. It’s so sad, but necessary. In short, Answers to the question.

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  3. What Vernat did to the ancients with the sundering is akin to a Lioness throwing her cubs off a cliff so it may lead to climb back up or an Eagle pushing its chicks out of a nest so they may learn to fly.
    By cutting off mankind’s access to creation magic, the sundered races had to learn to solve problems without an easy out.
    It kinda reminds me of an episode from the Disney Hercules TV series that aired in the 90’s where Zeus gives up his powers for a day to understand what it’s like to be mortal.

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  4. Definitely was not disappointed with your reactions to the cutscenes in this the hardships witnessed by Venat Definitely brought me to tears in the first time, and seeing the garliand defend the innocent was heartwarming. Alisaie telling off Zeno was a moment I was praising her.

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  5. It's honestly amazing seeing the duality of nihilism expressed fully on display here. From Hermes and Meteon saying nothing has meaning and all should die as such. And Zenos dropping the hard facts nothing has meaning but what you yourself make of it and should answer to no other as such. I always found interest in him since Stormblood introduced him, and Endwalker only solidified my praise of him being the best foil to us the player.

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  6. Hahahahahaha!! I just want you to know how much you make me laugh when you have to play as someone else! I DO hope you're enjoying yourself and the story!

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  7. I very much enjoy the moment with Zenos, and it's certainly a point of view that comes to mind a lot. Of course how they affect people will differ dramatically. With the Scions, they do whatever they can, for the star, the nations, and the people around them. And while they place their trust in Hydaelyn to an extent, their actions past 3.4 haven't been driven by her, but rather their own desire to do what they can. Even when ShB put Hydaelyn in a different light, they did what they've always tried to do with more knowledge and experience to do it each time.
    Then you have Zenos, who while takes those words to heart, he's been a thorn in everyone's side and willing to decimate an entire nation to get what he wants. And he'd have it no other way so long as it does.
    Which is why I'm glad Alisaie makes the point she does. If you don't even try to care about anything other then yourself, no one will want to deal with you. And with the motive to fight WoL with all of each side fighting to their limit, a goal that requires at least some form of outside cooperation from the WoL who is currently occupied with the Final Days, it hits that much harder. Because of Zenos fights the WoL now, the WoL of almost anyone would really just fight him to get him out of the way, and nothing so "transcendent" as Zenos puts it like him being the final boss of SB.
    It puts it to where both of them are completely correct, while telling Zenos off that WoL won't pay attention to him in the meanful and powerful moment he wants. It sticks out to me as one of the real kinda profound moments in the expansion.

    And in case you never got the answer, G'raha does in fact change to a Black Mage if you're a tank and let's you tank! He makes good use of his versatility and it makes me happy to see.

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  8. The sundering scene we see here would have represented the attempted 3rd Sacrifice, not the initial summoning of Zodiark to stop the End Days, or the follow-up sacrifice to short-cut making the planet like it was before the End Days. The third sacrifice was to be the Ancients sacrificing non-ancient life to restore those sacrificed in the 1st and 2nd attempt. Basically, Zodiark was made to protect the planet, and afterwards got used as the one solution to all issues, whether it was necessary or not. My hypothesis is that, in their desire for their fellows and loved ones to understand that the initial summoning of Zodiark was needed, those sacrificing themselves inadvertently initiated the 'tempering' effect, which snowballed.

    And may I say, your evil enthusiasm as a dps is an absolutely fun thing to hear. 🙂

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  9. I'm fairly sure that the cutscene with Venat walking through the Final Day's Amurot wasn't meant to be literal. Hytholodeus sacrificing himself with the others to summon Zodiark and the next cohort of ancients sacrificing themselves to restore life to the world didn't happen the same day – they decided to do it as a group and I feel like the ancients didn't decide anything hastily. And Venat and the others didn't summon Hydaelyn until the convocation decided on the plan to sacrifice the lives of all their creations in order to restore the dead Ancients. It's more figurative than that. Either that or it's a retcon from as late as 5.3 (and 6.0 was at least partially written when 5.3 came out), and like, it doesn't have to be a retcon it could just be metaphorical.

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  10. Zenos' arc/presence in Endwalker is one of my favourite spins on the usual trope of the fated rival, the guy who singularly represents the concrete challenge to you as a person. It's a trope that's pretty much venerated as one of the most enshrined hype moment tools in anime storytelling, if not most modern narrative period. It's a concept that's treated with so much weight and pathos and respect that it's a genuine curveball to slowly realize that Zenos is trying to do that, and everyone else around him, and by extension the narrative…doesn't give a single shit.

    As Alisaie points out, his pursuit of asserting his selfhood via strength and violence to reject any ties with other people, while leaving him an undeniable 'badass' combatwise (just compare and contrast how little he missed a beat in another body in the Shadowbringers MSQ vs the hellmarch that was the Unknown Soldier section for us), also means that he has zero common ground with literally anyone, which is a problem when achieving what he truly wants still requires meaningful connection with someone in its own twisted way. Which is why despite being on paper the most dangerous guy in the room apart from maybe the WoL, everyone can just brush him off like a nuisance and he'll just kinda relent bc he has no real motive when the only thing he really wants won't give him the slightest time of day. Despite all his menace and prose, he ultimately comes across as kind of a pathetic loser at the end of the day, and its genuinely some of the most fascinating character work in XIV in context of EW's narrative/themes.

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  11. Well, I'm not sure if Zenos is relating existence to that of non-spiritualness. On Etheris, the people actually know the gods, know the soul exists, know where the soul goes, and you can actually go there.

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