Asmongold Reacts to Zepla Welcoming All New FFXIV Players

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Asmongold watches a video by Zepla, who welcomes all the newcomers from WoW, that will try out Final Fantasy 14, TODAY IS THE BIG DAY!…

Original Video: (The FFXIV Community’s Bubble is Bursting…) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrLCYn8D9MA

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32 thoughts on “Asmongold Reacts to Zepla Welcoming All New FFXIV Players”

  2. i genuinely hope the gatekeepers don't ruin this. i know ff14 has some there are few but hey if we can keep the game a nontoxic game i want it and i already feel it being a good time. so and ff14 homies lets give them there space to play.

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  4. I really dont see the hype with ff14. Ive played it myself off and on and never really cared for the story. I like fast action-paced mmos and getting loot. FF14 had me spend most of my questing doing chores, talking to people or travelling to some other content. There was the occasional dungeon thrown in but not nearly enough action based content to keep me interested. As much as I hate what WOW has become, the gameplay has always been faster and smoother than any other mmo ive played aside from ARPGs. I dont see how FF14 could ever size up to wow as far as gameplay is concerned.

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  6. i don't think gatekeeping is insecurity. The general consensus of the public is that they dislike change. This is reflected in the real world. I honestly haven't seen this gatekeeping thing the video is talking about. It's just like welcoming any new players. If the new player comes with prejudice and how great they are just because they played wow for x amount of years and be condescending, they will be met with distaste. Otherwise, the game is chill, a large part of the game is to do what you like.

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  7. As far as toxicity goes, I think a lot of it in the WoW community has come from competition and disenfranchisement.

    The developers don't care about their community or game so why should the community care?

    There's no oversight or GM intervention towards harassment where FFXIV has a HEAVY emphasis (too much some times) on moderating their chat. There's no "world chat" in FFXIV, so people can't hide behind the anonymity or have an open forum to argue about politics.

    WoW has a lot of problems that the community has been screaming about for years but hasn't seen changes, meanwhile FFXIV has kept its player base happy by listening to feedback so the community has faith and good vibes about the game.

    There's no incentives towards helping people in WoW, whereas in FFXIV you get extra loot if someone is doing the dungeon for the first time. There's a pretty good mentor system for veteran players to help new players and get cosmetics and rewards. You can give people commendations after dungeons for doing a good job, incentivizing you to do a good job yourself. etc.

    That being said, FFXIV absolutely has a different form of toxicity and gatekeeping. The FFXIV community has been very insular and, like Zepla said, is afraid of that "hidden garden" being spoiled by others taking too much without giving back. There's a lot of elitism at the top end of raiding (or at least was when the raids were cleared by less than 1% of the population) because it was so difficult and so exclusive. Many people competed in speed clears and world first races; so info about raids and mechanics were kept secretive.

    The PVP community was extremely toxic and exclusionary to people because win-trading was so easily exploitable, with fewer people participating it meant win-trading became easier; so most people were pushed out of the content. Info about PVP was very secretive and those who made guides met pockets of backlash. The PVP community wanted to keep the cosmetics and rewards as exclusive as possible so they'd be more rare and valuable.

    The FFXIV community is rather elitist and delusional about FFXIV being the perfect game and are hostile towards criticism. They want to feel like they're better than everyone else because they play the "better" game. They're quick to cancel people who speak out about things they don't like about the game; and are generally easily offended because the community inside FFXIV has kept itself so clean from the shit talk the rest of the internet thrives on.

    The FFXIV community, in general, has tried to keep itself as sterile as possible from the rest of the internet culture; which as led to a very isolationist kind of reception to other people bringing in different cultural influences. This has definitely led to a form of self defense gate keeping and toxicity because they're afraid that FFXIV is this secret fragile gem that will somehow get ruined if it gets exposed too much.

    I think most of the community individually, however, is very welcoming and helpful; they're just a bit sensitive and isolated. There's going to be pretty big cultural differences when these fan bases start to mesh, so both sides need to be cooperative with respecting those differences. It's almost like a bunch of war-torn human refugees seeking shelter in a society of elves that have been living in peaceful isolation for centuries; they're slightly racist, and fear that you'll bring the war and famine to them; but they have a culture of hospitality and kindness towards one another.

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  14. nitpicking but calling newcomers to a game refugees is problematic, I suppose I appreciate the sentiment but it also mostly reads as the current playerbase essentially claiming the game for themselves like their somehow more entitled to it. like sure perhaps more players might mean less space on servers and in some games longer term users have spent more, but these aren't the case with FFXIV

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  18. I've played video games since the early 1980's I remember going to school and seeing who had got further in the text adventure "The Hobbit" by A company called Melbourne House on the Sinclair Spectrum. People getting invested in the game even back then.
    Since then I've lost the idea of putting any of my personal worth into video games. If you are better at me at a game. Good for you. You may care. Maybe a younger me did care. But where it stands now? I don't care at all.
    If someone acts like a jerk because they think they are better at a video game?… That says a lot more bad stuff about them than it says anything about anyone me or anyone else.
    If a player ties their self worth into their ability in a video game. That's on them And it doesn't say anything good about them.

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  23. As a WoW refugee from cataclysm, WoW was really only toxic when people are bored sitting in towns doing jack all and not actually playing the game. I've been in a top 20 raiding guild and sure our guild master had to be a harass to push us to progress but outside of that everyone was super chill and helpful.
    I think FF14 is even more of the best of that but everywhere that humans exist you will have toxic people.

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  26. Look we at final welcome all of you. Your stream has cracked me up, watching your ff14 reaction videos. Plus not all of us are snowflakes that are looking to get our feelings hurt.

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