Asmongold watches a video by Zepla, who discusses about what is considered the worst part of Final Fantasy 14, the PvP. Although not so many players actually PvP, Square Enix has added a few arenas to their MMO. So why is this so bad? Asmongold discusses…
Original Video: (Is FFXIV’s PvP THAT Bad? (Ft. Brian Ricardo) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNdH-Ajdfyo
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CHECK OUT BRIAN RICARDO (FFXIV PvPer Zepla interviewed): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrM_J5EvJPrHNvaMz4-arKA
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You should change the audio in japanese. The voice acting sounds so much better.
I have a love hate relationship with pvp. In ff14 it can be a lot of fun casually but when grinding away for mounts its insanely difficult to get wins when you have people going afk in the match or teleporting around because of lag. I got all of the horse mounts that were in the pvp crossover event and are no longer obtainable but after grinding pvp every day for 3 months loss after loss after loss I dont think I could go back and honestly havent since the beginning of stormblood.
She was hugging that wall terrain just like a pillar in wow pvp. She's a natural!
Isn't pvp waaay to brutal for ff "player"?
How are they so similar lol
ARR and HW PvP was so much better. They ruined it when they made every ficking class have the same exact abilities
final fantasy fanboys are no more delusional than warcraft fanboys.
You can't even report people for typing dumb shit in chat in raids lol…
Let's be honest, the PVP in this game looks absolute trash
I got to level 71 white mage and still havent got any queue yet in pvp. I think the FFXIV community are mostly pve players.
Even if you find a match. It's so chaotic and boring. Only one pvp game mode actually sees some action.
So Zepla has been playing FF14 exclusively for 6 years. Sounds like wow2.0 which is why i wont play it. Im sick of a singular game consuming my life. even if i take short breaks to play something else im always feeling like im getting behind on my transmog and mount farm
CTF with immortal WHM? Nah, thanks, I'm good.
You don’t even use any PvE skills in PvP so tuning is just a matter of allocating resources to it.
For North America at least, pvp is never going to be good. NA gamers don't pvp except the anti-social people with severe brain damage. So even your actually good pvpers are rats at teamwork or any advanced strategy and thus the experience is always a flat waste of time and effort. I originally got into pvp gaming looking for a fulfilling cooperative experience. But NA pvpers are much better suited to no teams deathmatch than to team deathmatch.
I remember first trying pvp on my EU alt in an MMO and the difference was immense. EU works together and its a great experience because of that. On NA, we either charge in or just stand there and get dove on and everyone just kind of worries about themselves which leads to a lot of half the raid running away while the other half stays. Even the half that stays, half of that only stays because they're surprised anything is happening so they're basically just feeding.
I prefer to go for dedicated pvp games to get my pvp fill. Even though it still has all the problems inherent to a NA playerbase, its a little bit of a better experience than mmo pvp. I think the MMO genre would do itself a great service by ignoring it's player base's incessant calls to make MMORPG's into the swiss army knives of the gaming world. Just focus on the RPG and the MMO. Develop/Publish a dedicated PVP genre and direct people calling for pvp to play that game instead.
I tried queuing into PVP after watching this video but the queue was over an hour
WoW has to have gladiator available on alts because of how TRASH the alt system even is. 4 different armor types so in the cases where the transmogs for each armor type you need that many then if its recolored per class thats even worse. Then you have weapon proficiency so warrior can wear most weapons but not all so then you need alts for that……. garbage ass toxic game
Been a main PvP player for over 15 years until I landed on ffxiv 2 years ago. In my opinion PvP in ff is terrible. Clunky combat, the server ticks screw you over, awful crown control, and I despise target combat but that depends on personal taste. On top of all that put bad moderation, eternal que times, and cheaters. I go there just for the good looking rewards. I only agree with Zepla on saying that nobody should tell others to not try pvp because it is bad. Everyone should make their own opinions, but if I truly believe the pvp is trash, I will say it is trash in hope that the devs improve it at some point. I can have a very negative yet civilized opinion.
Sorry but they can't make all the cash shop items trash.
Mmorpg pvp is so garbage. Yall suck
Yes it’s that bad, 14 PVP is even more of an afterthought than it was in WoW.
It’s a fucking JOKE
Bun Puns <3
ARR was literally americans pretending to be british. though I agree, I liked Merlwyb's old voice because she had a rougher sounding voice, one you would expect from an experienced pirate. most others… massive improvement.
1:30, i remember that in legion with my resto shaman xD
"People deemed thos emodes bad without even trying"
Oh good lord, forgive my expletives if I ever queue in to shatter map and your team forgot it's king of the hill mode…
Also, for anyone wanting to try out frontline even just for dailies or what not, please remember about the invincibility buff. Not just for yourself but if your team ever tries to push back one team to their spawn – you'll just feed when you stay there for a minute.
Has to be PvP. Without it a game is just missing a huge needed piece.
+1 for scrub nubs
would love to see you pvp.. maybe ricardo or zepla can easyu in
Ballista in Final Fantasy XI was so much better than anything FFXIV does.
It's a what kind of accent? Love learning new words.
Asmongold reacting to Zeplagold. I love it!
ARR Urianger was great and I miss him.
Game design is at fault for people thinking COD gods are cheaters. Headshot is meant to be realistic right? Well, how realistic is it for me to pump 7 shots into a motherfuckers arms, body and legs only to have him spin around and 1 tap me right in the skull then run away like he never got shot at all. If you're going to have realistic headshots, you should have realistic arm/body/leg shots as well meaning taking 7 shots either means you're dead or at least your aim is severely compromised.
Wow.. pvp in ffxiv is the worst!
One of the main reasons the PVP is so bad is Global Cooldown.
pvp is often if not always neglected to some level.
This might sound like I have copium but personally I never like pvp period I did come from league of legends and rank solo que still sucks for the past 10 years pvp is just sucks and toxic in all games
I really only do frontline roulettes for xp and I'm severely confused on what to do. You get sent in with a completely different set of skills and in my case, I just got to 30 as NIN so the PVP rotation is doubly confusing to me. People get mad when nubs like me die in PVP (called us feeders lol), so I just stick with the group and spam whatever skills are up. I might have to look for a training dummy mode in PVP just to set up my keys.
I understand when a company doesn't want to moderate the PvP themselves, but you can just add some sort of self-policing system like they did in dota where the community moderates it for you.
Went once, never went again. maybe I will
It's not that pvp is bad / Terrible in FF14, it's the lack of moderation in it and certain game modes. I play rival wings as much as possible but it isn't as popular and probably won't find any matches unless it's a Saturday when specific group of people play it. Frontlines is terrible in execution, but cool on paper. It's cool that we have 3 factions duking it out, but 33% probability of winning really sucks. Especially if you get match in Failstrome with people doing Frontline roulette and don't have a sense of team work and do their own thing. Or if your faction is in the lead, the other two factions just gang bang you and the team finishes last.
here we go again, im asmongold and i think people should get banned for things that devs program into the game o_O