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I think the reason he is complaining because that money is disappearing. You have to look at it from a business POV. Releasing a video like this also drives traffic. When a streamer or any influencer do this it’s to drive up interest in their platform. This is why they do stuff like this it’s planned people. Smarten up
I feel like FFXIV content creators have been running in circles for months over the simple fact that FFXIV is not designed to occupy 100% of your free time, all the time. Which the developers have publicly acknowledged, and are okay with. And yet we go back, again, and again, to the fact people get bored when they no-life it.
The devs are not going to suddenly triple the content or turn everything into an horrifying grind to glue the players to their game. That's not gonna happen. Those who are still holding to that hope are honestly better off it.
It's always the toxic minority that are the most vocal about the game.
I'm not a content creator but I must say, even if the toxic minority in the community is just a tiny minority, they can easily make the game not fun for you, even if you try to ignore them. Means you don't rage quit and you don't feel offended, you just don't feel like playing the game. And all you need to become their target is to stand out just a little. Which for content creators is a given.
I’m just a seedling been playing for a couple weeks now and I’ve only met super nice people so far. My first couple days someone gave me a million Gil and I Damn near cried. I’m now in a FC and they are super chill. They don’t pressure anything and always answer my questions. Excited to see what the future holds for this game and myself!
We can agree that most people playing the game are chill, but there is a reason why the game has a cultlike reputation online. We should condemn the people who act obsessive and weird rather than try to downplay it. They are a minority but those people are usually the loudest.
Zepla; I'm thinking about my experience.
Immediately goes on about how other people end up in toxic FCs and never have a good time.
Arthars is 100% accurate on streamers. But people don't want to accept it.
I am @3:13 and I just see Arthar's crying over a end game community he help build? I commented on one of his post that he appeared to be toxic and I got flamed by his fans for it. And now look at this, Arthar's is saying all this when he help foster these type of end game players and is trying to blame the whole community for his subcommunity. "The people who like to watch me bitch at people are now bitching at others. This must be everyone and not those I surround myself with." And he is just talking about the people around himself which is a small percent of the end game, which that in itself is a the top 10% if that. His fans will come to his defense and say "it is just an act." But for those of us who are not his fans and only come across stuff like this, to us he seems like he can be toxic always complaining about people and never trying to help them in game just watches them fail for content.
ffxiv community is like that passive aggressive friend you cant get rid of. I like to remain solo
There goes Arthars again with terrible takes..
Seems RAIDER mentality. When you have no goals in a game, you won't play it until a temp goal appears (updates).
The game is suppose to let you take a break and many FORGET this one major fact.
Okay.
Anyway… Live letter on the 31!!! Let's goooo
Yeah. Some of the comments on Finn's reddit post about his world first omni clear of Orthos were awful. People saying he had no life and for him to touch grass. Such massive tools. They see some achievement and then crap all over it for no reason whatsoever.
Didn't Asmon only do extreme and savage in the old content? Asmon should be way above the red line lol
Honestly, when Asmongold came back, there was players following him and kept squatting in front of him or showed up in lewd ways to get attention or trying to flash fancy mount or gear, it ruined viewers experience. The first time it makes sense but when he got to storm blood it got very lame and annoying.
This guy sounds like he's projecting his past experience…
What in the WORLD is this guy talking about? These experiences are literally in no way universal. This seems to only be about the people who sit in Twitch chat
its clear this chart only applies to streamer experience. i just avoid watching raid/hardcore streamers, they are toxic or atleast have a toxic persona just for streams (like arthar, xeno, Asmon). they never have good vibes, so they always attract more toxic people, then they create exaggerated scenarios to blame a whole thing on the community.
majority of ff players dont even watch streamers. There is really no point in watching ff14 streams as the game is just boring to watch on streams. only relevent ff14 content for casual players are guides. when i started ff14, the first content creators i got familar with were mizzteq and mr happy because of their guides. they are still the most wholesome bunch compared to raid streamers who recently grew in popularity after 'wow player influx'.
streamers like asmongold dont stream ff14 anymore because they know they won't grow an audience (infact will lose people) once the msq is complete. look at all the streamers who got featured in lulu highlights, they all got forgotten once their msq journey was over. lulu highlights isnt even popular anymore. l watched it more than a year ago. it was fun to watch, but clips of other people falling out of arena get boring after a while.
it has very little to do with the toxicity from loud minority, asmon has it more in wow. ff14 is just not a good game to stream and the ff14 streamer market is already saturated, very hard for a new comer to have a streaming career. they need to be exceptionally charasmatic to stand out and retain the same audience once msq is over.
I remember when the WoW Exodus first started, I don't really go on Twitter, but a few YouTubers and friends were pointing out some really radically toxic opinions that were being shared around, namely someone was posting how we need to actively bully and kick out players who came from WoW, because "we were not like them and better than them," or something to that regard. I believe it also focused heavily on a single streamer at the time, not Asmongold, and the poster basically told everyone to actively go to their Twitch page and bully them until they logged off.
I'm sure hardly anyone did it, but calls to action like that are never justified. It puts a really bad light on us as well, which sucks, because we know we're better than that, but we also can't control the vocally unhinged, regardless how few there are of them.
Was legit booted from my first fc for saying I came into the game because of asmon.
Um….I think he missed a bit about why Rich isn't playing games right now. He shouldn't have brought him up.
i dont think Zepla reads these comments unless its a top post or whomever publishes her content on this channel decides a comment is worth mentioning but i had a major epiphany in regard to who exactly FFXIV is aimed at after seeing how content is being implemented and choices made for glamour sets to how things play out in the written stories…
its not a game looking to be an "everyone" game anymore.. but rather they are looking to make bank on the jRPG/Anime audience now….
the writing has been written on the walls for me as i am someone who greatly enjoys and ofc dabbles in jrpgs and anime styled videogames and the fashion, the stories, and overall content decision making is exactly like that of those types of games (barring some exceptions there is no npc dating YET, and we haven't fought any religions and their God YET unless you'd call the ascians a religion but thats kinda a big stretch considering the unsundered were forcibly tempered against their will so therefor didnt exactly join of their own volition lol and nearly a quarter of the ancient civilization rebelled against Zodiark XD so definitely not a religion at all if not everyone is on board. and in particuliar jrpgs/anime games target christianty the most which the closest we've ever gotten to that was sineaters and vauthry but the people didnt serve him either by choice lol)
I don't see this kind of cycle in the other mmos I play. If people judge wow on a couple toxic m+ players, then ff can be judged by a very vocal, obsessive, and frequently toxic, online presence.
What I'm gathering is, the toxicity is coming from the chronically online twitch and twitter folks, and the elitist hardcore base, both of which are extreme minorities lol. Vocal, but minorities nonetheless.
Someone tell him to stop selling me foot massagers at 3am on my tv 🤣
I can understand people like Zepla, who played the game religiously for years every single day, spent a lot of energy on savage/unreal raids and get a lot of stress for very hard times in real life, like a war, to take a break and do other things. Its pretty legit.
What i cant understand are streamers who played the game only for a very limited time (*cough* ASMONGOLD *cough*), maybe just because was profitable at the time, maybe because sponsored or to catch more subs/viewers (in any way just for mere convenience) start to talk why they leave or literally create a drama/problem where there isnt. These people are just toxic waste of time/server space.
Meanwhile people likes me doesnt do savage raids very often, just enjoy the game doing sub-quests, deep-dungeons with friends, try to collect every single mount/minion, glamour the shit out of me, do some gpose cool picture and post them on FC discord, just travel to place to place and see whats happening maybe helping some new player in the process.. and try to understand what about all this drama all the time but cant, becuase i just play the game.
And yes, i NEVER did a ultimate and i have absolutely (for now at least) no intention to do one. And im FINE WITH IT.
Get ready for some real elitistism right here pardner. Play all numbered FF games before playing 14 (yes including 11). 'o'
You get a bunch of people in a room some of them are guaranteed to be asshats.
consdiering we all think playing 24/7 this game is actually negative what he says is just biased af. Asmon hasn't even stopped playing the game, he had his loss and stopped streaming and when he returned the FF bubble had lightly passed because WoW came back like? meh.
12:12
From now on, I'm gonna be checking under my bed for Zepla.
What they said mostly applies to xiv Twitter. Not gonna lie a chunk of the time I regret joining xiv twitterspehere for how much actually brainrot I see. Normal people like zep is talking about are actual normal people.
It's the Twitterrot percentage that screams the loudest and also causes the most drama. Just some food for thought.
Some of us WANT to be able to play more. I miss this game and the fun I had with it but good god has the content ever dried up. And I can't remember the last time a content patch truly surprised me, and made me say "Wow". Following the formula to a fault for so many years has worn me down and I finally called it quits for good a few months back after 8 years with the game. The community also isn't as great as it appears on the surface, but that can be said for most online games, FFXIV just isn't the exception that people like to delude themselves into thinking it is.
11:30 yep, typical xiv experience when you are not positive lol
Asmon could have been the King of FF XIV. But it is what it is.
I don't gel with the FFXIV community, and I've been part of many game communities. Different breed of players.
I sub to ff14 as an investment in the future of the game rather than needing to sub for my character to not fall behind current content. There is something freeing about NOT having to log-in for character maintenance and logging when you DO want to. This way the game lifts a little of life's stresses off when you play, which is what games are supposed to do (imo).
FFXIV really does this the most, out of every community.
The whole community is like that. There are different classes of players on ffxiv. And to say it’s not that’s very naive. The red line is where the “lovely” PF and/or the “drama” is. Which is savage and ultimate content and y’all know it’s facts. If you stay in a bubble then you don’t have any right to honestly pass judgment on this. Everything he said is true.
Arthars not wrong lmao,
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