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I feel like you have to hold yourself back from saying anything remotely offensive on this game if youâre afraid of being reported/banned. Donât get me wrong I love the game but the sensitivity of players is really something else. The way I see it is someoneâs incompetence or lack of understanding is only acceptable if theyâre new and trying to understand/get batter at least in regards to higher level content. Like I donât expect things from people in low level dungeons and if we wipe its w/e. But if youâre doing end game raiding and not preparing yourself and researching what is needed, you shouldnât feel surprised when people ask what youâre doing and arenât happy with it. Thereâs places to get information and ask questions. Jumping into something and asking after wasting peoples times is just griefing.
lol.. the OP obviously hasn't played WoW, Cod, LoL WZ, EQ, Rift etc etc…
telling someone they "should" do something is a bit agrresive, even if the wird consider is used afterwards.
FF14 is the canada of MMOs
kinda weird to blast a whole datacenter based on literally one dude, maybe 2 if you count his friend saying hes new and learning
Forget corrupted blood, M+ PTSD is the thing to study.
Who came up with "toxic" as a word to describe things that happen online? It's annoying hearing people saying it.
Savage definitely has higher expectations compared to regular dungeons and roulettes, but for good reason. This is tough content that people come in with the expectation that everybody participating is going in with the same mindset of, we are taking this very serious and we are playing our absolute best with the mindset of consistently being our best and improving. Coming in with an attitude that says that you're not taking this practice as serious as everybody else is frankly insulting because it wastes everybody else's time that is taking it serious. Toxicity exists however, an example I can give was during my first time tanking the last Nier Alliance raid a week after it released, I didn't know that you were supposed to separate the two big boys. 3 players called me names, told me I sucked and shouldn't tank, and talked about how players like me ruined the game all within the span of less than 30 seconds before disconnecting. Not even explaining anything I did wrong, they just resorted to trash talking and disconnecting from a raid that had just come out. Everybody else told me what I should do, explained how I should tank the fight and we cleared happily ever after. When you're met with toxic behavior in game, just remember all the good people and kindness you've come across beforehand. @$$holes in general are people we are guaranteed to come across in life, the only thing we can do is control our reactions and thoughts. This person could be just having a bad day or be going through something stressful in their life. Don't hold on to it, just let it go and look at all the goodness and positivity that's happened in your life for proof that there is good in the world, especially in the world of FFXIV.
I've said it before – FFXIV is no less toxic than other games, it's just a different kind of toxic.
Was in a Shiva Unreal group, and we were constantly wiping, partially due to people screwing up, partially due to heals. I noticed that the WHMs would just constantly spam Medica 2. I, foolishly, said "You don't need to spam Medica 2, it heals less immediate damage than 2." and a couple of people were those "toxic positivity" types. "Don't listen to him! You're doing great!" "We just need to get in there again! We almost got it!" – terrible, unconstructive advice just so they can "stand up" to the "bad guy".
Unsurprisingly these were also people that were dying again and again.
FF toxic, no one's even cussing anyone out. WoW toxic, death threats and mom fucking.
I know people say materia doesn't matter until endgame but yeah I think I'm gunna keep melding all the gear I can so the only thing anyone can complain about is how bad I play. đ (I haven't even done any extremes yet)
I didnât clear 3rd boss, but food helped me survive a lot in the 1st 2 bosses in practice, and i truly think savage is balanced with food used in mind especially 1st weeks
I started playing FFXIV last summer and my impression of the community is that… it tries to be so anti-toxicity that some people warp right back around to being toxic. Y'know? Even common sense suggestions are treated as if they are personal attacks on their honor, family name, mother and pet dog. And if you try to call out the anti-toxic person being unreasonable, then ker-blam, you're toxic too!
RDM kicked from party. If your not willing to take legit advice from masters at this game that are polite then stick to normal content.
Purple must be a WoW refugee…lol.
My read: Blue's opening statements were not toxic, but some of their later ones were mildly so. Purple was toxic pretty much the whole way through. Red and Green are the two wolves inside me.
Food is required for practice. I would explain it like this. It gives you a massive HP buff which during practice when food is the difference between you dying or living with 5-10% HP it makes it essential and mandatory for practice because it lets you practice for longer
Its practice though. Clearly the healers need practice fast rezzing and panic shielding someone too low HP to survive the aoes. And purple needs practice clicking the accept raise button.
It's just common sense.
He/she likely needed food irl, what a clown đ
FF14 has been getting bad as of late. Honestly, worse than WoW given the fact WoW people don't always talk.
I never get people who will be new to content, especially high end content that REFUSE advice from vets
Like bruh you're looking to learn, be open to information otherwise you won't learn
My only toxic experience in the total 5 and a half years playing is one run of mount gulg the healer initiated and kicked the red mage bc and I quote âthey didnât LBâ the second to last pull.
I was pissed and went off on them bc they wasted the red mages time and we hadnât had any trouble in any combat up until then. Like we were at the last boss and they kicked him for no reason.
The healer was a white mage and kept trying to link me their raid parses bc I called them out on how unless they were a bad healer we shouldnât have had a problem with that pull. Iâm a healer main, I know based on the rest of the dungeon that we woulda been fine but they kicked the dude and started talking shit.
But like I said thatâs been the only instance in 5 and some change years playing.
Wouldn't this actually be banable by the EULA? If the Red Mage reported the other player would get in trouble.
I'm a senior lady, so I know that I'm slow on the uptake sometimes, even though I've been playing MMOs for 27 years now. I am dreading the day my sprout disappears because I don't think I'll ever get another player commendation again! It may or may not be true, but I believe that they're pity recommendations. Everyone has been so nice in this game, though. I avoided raiding and Mythic+ in WoW because I didn't want to be abused.
people CAN'T be toxic inside FFXIV because they'll get a ban. There is toxic players there, but outside of it or being sarcastic. There is no such control in wow, thats why people do whatever they want, thats the difference.
Whenever I see someone claiming to be toxic, it takes me back to when I ran Prae and a SCH kept rescuing me AWAY from the boss as a main tank. I asked them to stop only to be told no and I was retarded. Like excuse me? I asked for you to stop and met with that? Please don't be that person in that game. And being a former WoW player myself, that's the level of toxicity you expect from them,.
Honestly, it's hard to figure out tone of voice over text-based messages. It's been an issue ever since email became a thing. Someone can give matter-of-fact advice, and the receiver of such advise reads it as condescension. I've seen this happen just chatting via text message to a friend, with her being angry at me the next day. So I understand how purple was thinking. So I'm very judicious with reporting – I figure it's up to me to put on my big boy pants (and for my WoL to put on her big girl panties) and just deal with it – unless it is blatant bullying and name-calling, which has only happened to me once in game… when I was brand new and running Sastasha for the first time and was done through /tell AFTER we had cleared the dungeon.
WoW is classic "right" toxicity, straight to the point, after that "no" he would have been cussed out and kicked including with the one in red for what he said, if the situation was IRL they would get socialy thrown out of the room/area they were in or asked to leave.
FF 14 is classic "left/liberal" toxicity, toxic positivity. Where a person is asked something in a suggestive and positive way, cause why be mean to someone right of the get go and tell them hey "you might want to do this" and then just right away for some reason take it to an emotional place and feeling attacked for being SUGGESTED on how they could improve themselves, wich implies something is wrong with them, if the situation was IRL the whole room would talk about it for an hour and at the end you were deemed the bad guy for trying to help and you are socialy forced to apologise, even though you dont agree with apologising and you were just trying to help someone improve, but because the person deemed it toxic/triggering, now you are the bad person in the room.
I cleared that with smoked chicken and melded IX and X 570 gear… The most important part in there is the melding, and getting those materias is so easy… Idk why that person just didnt have any of those two period…
Makes me wonder if purple comes from WoW and their knee jerk reaction to the suggestion was to get defensive
It is called "Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty". It always win.