Nobbel87 channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Nobbel87
Follow me on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/zeplahq
Check out the new Merch Store: https://streamlabs.com/zeplahq/merch
Support me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/zeplahq
Official Discord server: https://discord.gg/zeplahq
Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/xepla
source
Great colab!
Paimon made me quit genshin. i was enjoying the story a bit. got to the desert zone or what ever.. but no more.
I have to disagree with Nobbel when he questions the decision for the WoW trailer to be like it is, given that it's supposed to be essentially an ad for the new expansion and to hype people up, and a lot of people wouldn't be able to fully appreciate the context. I understand that argument, but I'll say that, as someone who has never played WoW and is completely unfamiliar with the story and characters, that trailer got me interested more than anything I've seen from the game before. I've seen little bits and trailers from watching content creators, but nothing I've seen has made me want to play it. It looks like it would be fun, but I find myself drawn to deeper stories and characters, not just the gameplay. That new WoW cinematic actually made me, as a potential player, think: "wow, the characters actually seem very vulnerable and relatable, and there's some real intrigue with this story. Maybe there's more to WoW than I thought". Of course, this is just from the perspective of a 'potential new player' and I can't speak to how effective it would be to an existing WoW audience, so Nobbel might have a good point when it come to that audience, not sure
I really don't understand the emotional gatekeeping. The people that do that don't represent a majority of the fanbase, but it's hard not to notice them. I love seeing how emotional parts of the story affects streamers, but everyone is different. Some people aren't criers, or a certain part hits them differently. I've seen one streamer laugh at the end of Stormblood (the national anthem scene), and another one tear up.
It's a big part of the reason why, even though I love FFXIV, I couldn't see myself ever streaming it. Deciding how I want to react to something isn't worth giving up to an audience.
I'll let the streamers react how they will, even if a scene doesn't hit them the same way it did me.
Omg the notifications sounds are driving me crazy
Shadowlands was the first expansion I was there to play on Day 1. I spent most of the pandemic leveling through the old zones and expansions. SL is also the only WoW Collector's edition alone. Just to add on to Nobbel's dread that new players are entering WoW without a Warchief Thrall…..or Vol'jin even.
Great podcast! You both are amazing and informative!
11:30 thats kinda being a guy for most guys
It is like you are on camera your time 
Dont cry around others and dont fuck up and dont show weakness, or thats at least how it is for me and I think a lot of guys. Even with their closest friends they always feel like they are on a camera or feel pressure to be a certain way.
I think it's funny people say WoW is old. That's just non-sense. WoW has just got into adulthood! Barely matured.
Loved the interactions and it was an overall very enjoyable stream! Amazing podcast
Yay two of my fav people
Try the Sylvanas book on audiobook – it's narrated by the voice of Sylvanas, and she did a pretty good job with it.
As a member of Sideboob Army, that last part melted my heart
I am glad to be a part of the community and I will be forever grateful for Nobbel and his stream)
Damn I been tryna avoid getting back into Genshin…..but I may just jump back in to experience the story & world
I understand that people don't always react the same way to the same piece of content, but I'm always very immersed in the things I watch. To me that means it is tons more fun to watch someone that really feels the stuff going on, because it kinda makes me relive that content. If I watch Star Wars Episode III and someone makes jokes during key moments, I turn that reactor off, because that ruins it for me. People are allowed to react any way they want or do, but I get why people might not want to watch it.
Aaaaaa my two favourite people!!!
Thank you gor another episode of the podcast.
I definitely feel the point made about people being upset when you don't react how they want to. Especially consider a lot of the same chatters basically spoil you from their own giddiness with "Oh this next part is so goood", "oh he'll cry in this next scene!", "Here it comessss get your tissues readyy" like the streamer crying is a spectacle. Like he said, in that kind of environment, I wonder how the streamer feels where the people watching are expecting, even demanding you react a certain way while having basically spoiled the emotional impact for you already.
Having said that, I don't think people want streamers to cry to validate their own feelings all the time. Sometimes they just want to relive the story experience they had by watching someone who closely matches their own emotional engagement to have that shared experience.
The way nobbel describes the problem with the Jailer is the same reasoning for why I don't really like the 6.0 Endwalker story. Hermes and Meteion have the same issue as the Jailer in which they're characters set before the start of even 1.0 but we have no clues or hints of their existence until Endwalker and they're the ones pulling the strings behind everything in the story. They even had to introduce an entirely new force of nature with Dynamis to justify why Meteion was able to cause the final days.
This is also irrelevant but the Venat sundering cutscene also didn't line up with the backstory we were given from Shadowbringers, where Hydaelyn fought with Zodiark and beat him, sundering the star into 13 reflections and the source.
It's weird to see him say he genuinely enjoyed the story of FF14, not for the jokes, but for the fact he regularly talked over and seemed to flat ignore story cutscenes during his playthrough, and then questioned often missing context to those same scenes, or forgetting some relevant characters.
Everyone is free to enjoy games how they want to, and plenty of players and streamers haven't cried or had the same emotional response as "the majority." Nobbel saying people didn't like him cracking jokes over those moments falls under that as well, but I think he missed the point on the focus of the ire for many of his fans.
Eyyyyyyy our chat is up! Thanks so much for having me, had a blast. Another hour soon yea?!
Just watched this and the Jesse Cox interview back to back. I think they are very fun to listen to and your killing it Zepla