White Mage is SUFFERING | FFXIV



this is the most suffering job in the Entire Underworld

chapters 4 the cringe kids

00:00 well met, sinner.
00:57 GENESIS I. WHM is FINE 🙂
03:18 EXODUS II. the golden days (?)
05:01 NUMBERS III. siwwy wiwwy uwu
07:32 JOB IV. share ur toys. now
09:29 REVELATIONS V. this is so ez to fix but no
10:50 ty 4 comin 2 my ted talk
11:43 u already know B)

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43 thoughts on “White Mage is SUFFERING | FFXIV”

  1. What’s more cringe than Lucy Pyre ending raps? Discovering you’re not subscribed to her when you love the content! Which means either YouTube is conspiring against the cringe demon, or I’m an idiot human that can’t unga bunga the Subscribe button in a timely fashion. Probably the latter.

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  2. Out of all the healers WHm has always been my least favourite it just seems dull to play and with tanks being what they are now (except DRK Yoshi please fix) healers are just now bad dps in normal content and in savage i'd rather have an ast

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  3. People complain that white mage “doesn’t have a rotation” or that it “hasn’t meaningfully changed”, or worst of all “has bad mp economy “

    To that I say: it has no rotation because glare is all it needs. It has bad mp economy because that’s all the mp you need. It hasn’t meaningfully changed because it’s already perfect

    I switched to summoner, saw all those buttons you gotta press, I just laughed. Yeah right. Have fun with your “weaving “, chumps.

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  4. I've always stayed away from WHM just because…. it sounds boring. I'll stick with putting my AST cards on random people because I'm too smoothbrain to pay attention to which card goes to which role.

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  5. The spell names are off cuz in the ENG client spell names have I-II-III etc. but all other language clients have the spell names from the FF franchise so Cure- Cura-Curaga. So I'm assuming that if Holy jumped to Holy 3 its because in the JP/F/G clients it jumped from Holy to Holyga. I really wish they could offer a toggle for the ENG client so that I can have my FF spell names back. I know there's a way to do so via an addon or launcher or some such but im on PSN client and while I would macro the name changes. macros are given a delay sadly.

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  6. White mage is suffering
    So much…

    Drk: sharpening our swords

    "Tell me something's i do not know because white mages act like elitists and do not use their skills. Then let us die alone"

    White mage " because your too needy to keep on eye on "

    Drk " at least you have a purpose as a healer class "

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  7. At least WHM still has its heart and soul. AST got that ripped out in Shadowbringers and tried to keep the desiccated corpse alive through sheer potency values and flashy effects. Trying to blind us from the fact we have 5 too many cards, we mechanically do not match the lore of our class, and that our spot of being the flexible utility time mage has been stripped away completely.

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  8. Because of THIS I subbed. ❤️ As a former WHM main.. it's just sad. If our lilies were off gcd and Tetra had the 2 charges instead of benison, it would be AMAZING, still not fixed, but BETTER. They could even make lilies give mp to us if they kept the new thin air.(like sage addersgall spenders do) The fact that AST does everything we do, but with faster cast time and for less mp cost AND they get op party buffs, feels like a slap in the face as a WHM. 😞

    Also Lucy ur raps at the end of your videos are so unique and cute, keep doing your thing 😊

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  9. This series has given me some laughs to relieve the years of salt as an ex healer and drk player.

    i wonder if you saw the summary of healer issues thread i wrote in shb x3

    currently i got a question in the live letter thread about healers being made irrelevant and no dps actions. Its currently the highest rated question in the thread despite being on page 8.

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  10. I just watched a video about a class i have no idea about. for the 2 years i have been playing now i still dont have a white mage. It sucks to hear that white mage is in a bad spot tho. DRK was a reason for me to want to tank and i main tanks. I main GNB because its just the more fun option. DRK has cool stuff but man when i see HW DRK i feel like im being scammed.

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  11. Two stacks on devine bennison is actually really usefull for raiding. For double tankbusters for example. E3S for example, there are many double Tankbusters and you can always use 1 tetragramaton as a weave after glare so you can shield both Tanks. I think its cool. Rest 100% agreed

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  12. I switched to AST from WHM and holy moly is it so much more engaging. I don't get the feeling that I am a less capable healer either, I can still pump out a load of healing.

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  13. So I've been a healer main throughout. In ARR and HW I was Scholar, in Stormblood and Shadowbringers I was WHM. But in Endwalker it got gutted so hard that I swapped off it. My Co healer looks to be a White Mage so I'll be Sage. Trying to get them to try Astrologian. Because of stuff like this video. It's just a WHM on steroids. And that sucks. WHM doesn't feel rewarding or enjoyable. I used to hate AST (and only used it for queue filler so I could regen or shield dependent on what my co healer was) but nowadays I find myself enjoying AST over WHM.

    The thing is, the lily spells could be designed with say a 3 second cooldown, with a charge every 30 seconds (shared between all lily spells), to facilitate being limited to single weaves. Perhaps nerf the heal potency slightly too (not the payoff though). Perhaps misery could be kept on the GCD. Since it'd still be a massive potency buff compared to a single glare (as opposed to the 4 it currently compares to). Let's say cut the potency of the heals by 100 for solace, and 50 for rapture (I think solace is ST and rapture is AoE), and throw in say a 500 mana restore to each lily. This adds another use to lilies.

    Sure it takes a cue off Sage and the addersgall mechanic, but the way it generates is slightly different in that it only develops while in combat. And people would be way more likely to weave in heals and WHM would no longer be the lone MP suffering job (from my recollection, SCH has enough tools that simple AoW spam also won't be MP negative using Aetherflow. Since I'm referring to simply tools that are exclusive to a single healer that restore MP, so not LD).

    Also, on the subject of healers… why haven't we gotten rid of Freecure yet? And the AST trait that gives a B1 cast a chance for B2 to be a guaranteed crit. They seem like straight up noob traps. C1 and B1 at higher level play serve no purpose. Just give them traits to morph B1/C1 into a different spell at 30, and then again at say 60 or 70 (not sure where the cut-off point is for them becoming completely useless) into B2/C2. With the intermediate step having a slightly higher potency than B1/C1 but with no increased mana cost. Then at the cut-off point, they gain B2/C2 potency and mana cost.

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  14. I have had mp issues ever since 6.0. Even at low levels, if I ABC I will run oom fairly often. Having to keep lucid dreaming on cd is not fun. Mp management is not fun imo. It just add unneeded stress, especially when the other 3 jobs don't have that issue.

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  15. Thank you for this video. I'm a healer main with an emphasis on whm, and I completely agree with you. I was so confused when I got Holy 3, and was wondering wtf was Holy 2 in the skills chart. The devs pulled the "release 3 pigs/dogs into school and have them numbered 1, 2, and 4" on us. Or they decided to give Holy 2 to a different job under a different name, since, as you said, they've been giving all the other healers WHM's skills without adequate compensation. Although I am looking forward to when I get far enough in the MSL that I can get the move that gives me wings of light. Currently doing the Atlantis chapter of SHDWBRNGR.

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  16. Ah yes, the weekly dose of cringe we've all been waiting for!
    "Have you ever stood in a aoe for a little more dps?.. well yes but I also do that with holy so I too, am guilty of sin

    Great video!

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  17. "Never have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with." – Jackie Chan (or Abraham Lincoln idk). I've only gotten into FFXIV a few months ago and I've almost exclusively played WHM. I haven't done endgame content yet (still midway through Endwalker MSQ), but doing dungeons and trials has me questioning my sanity as well. IS Assize off GCD? is it not? i don't get it pls halp! Wait Afflatus Misery is a DPS loss!? Holy-ing the everliving bajeezus out of trash packs is BiS but i almost always get matched with a DRK tank so that's actually almost entirely anti-synergy!? And I thought mythic raiding in WoW was hard…criminey! Seriously though: raid-leading Mythic Huntsman Altimor is 10x easier than trying to figure out why WHM keeps getting clunkier the further I go with it.

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  18. I think that part of the issue with healers is that in most instances (outside of dungeon mob pulls), damage tends to hit the party in large chunks all at once, as opposed to it being a steady stream that whittles them down over a longer period of time (of course, a ton of exceptions exist). As such, a healer's priority is usually just to make sure everyone in the party is at high enough HP that the next hit won't kill them, which often needs to be accomplished in a very short window between mechanics. It doesn't actually take a huge amount of healing to pull this off, though, so it's far more helpful to have access to quick burst healing via oGCDs than it is to have higher healing overall.

    I would honestly give white mage a full rework and lean into its identity as THE master of HP-healed-per-second, while giving it an actual reason to benefit from those stats. I'd give them a few different types of aetheric trees that they can only place on the ground while in combat. The trees would be targettable by the white mage as if it were an ally, and would grant special effects based on healing received. For example, one could bank all of the healing it receives, then be 'detonated' with an oGCD that heals all party members in an AoE around the tree for that amount. Or for an extra way to do damage, a 3-charge spell that drops a mushroom bomb on the target location. The bombs could automatically take damage over time, and maybe also take damage from enemy AoEs (if that's necessary for balance), but explode for a ton of damage if kept alive for 20 seconds or so. The charges would make it possible to drop a bunch out at once, allowing a skilled WHM to fit a lot of damage into a raid buff burst phase at the expense of having to manage a ton of health bars at once.

    Oh and also just for the hell of it, remove benediction and make the Lily single target heals into full HP restores. Yes it's insane, and no, I won't change my mind.

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  19. Though this whole "Healers should only be doing DPS and only heal via OGCD" thing is boring, at this point I'm with the assumption that healer is mostly for people who struggle with DPS jobs for some reason and they aren't good enough to press more than 2-3 buttons.

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  20. Yes, please, for the love of God and or whomever, please fix darkknight. 🙏
    Would like to bring it to content and not feel like I'm griefing my team by not picking Chad gunbreaker instead.

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