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This cheating problem is really ruining the ranked scene. I am by no means an amazing pvper, but in one evening I went from my hard climb to silver (as stated I'm not great) all the way back down to the starting ranks due to incredibly crazy chain stunning, snap shot limit breaks, and people who just would not die even with focus fire. The only saving grace is that at least the matches are quick when these cheaters show up, but its made me walk away from playing ranked right now (and thus incentive to get better) and just play casual for now.
………………after seeing this for years. The team is watching these cheat sheets. Almost if they are watching twitch streams….coughasmongoldcough or twitter tweets. It's one of those things that have to be treated carefully and not in a emotional, panicky, dumb reaction what ppl are doing right now which ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS F'K IT UP later down the line. Other than that, this isn't new, but I ended up treating it as fighting games or MMOs that already have "anti-cheat" programs already implemented in them. ……….it still didn't work just a news flash. They can have a automated program to do it, but ppl will figure it out and loophole around it. You can have a manual team keep an eye on it………hey, who wants to pay for their service? The more they have, the more expensive it'll be overtime. They can perma-ban them….oh wait, alt accounts. IP ban…….don't be retarded, wanna lose money? Let's ban 3rd pty tools……..REEE I can't use ACT or other programs so bye bye fflogs.
It's really one of those situations where ppl have to think the pros and cons, but the only thing I think they can do is create a system where(they already have the data of who's cheating, they aren't dumb) they will scrap all of their progress and give them a special rank for cheaters plus an icon for ppl to know that this individual was using a cheating tool/s and the only way to get them out of that status is to win 5 matches in a row w/o using the tool and work their way back up to crystal from bronze.
This was rampant back in Feast, and its equally rampant here now. This is why i refuse to play ranked CC, because that same feast crew is here now win trading and hacking like crazy. It’s really, really sad, cuz I really enjoy CC and was really thinking about trying ranked, but now I can’t.
There is an absolute shitload of cheaters on my data center. For example when I play RDM I get imped as soon as I press my LB. And even though it is an instant cast, I see the animation, but no damage goes out as appearently the bot cancels so fast, the server does not get the info damage has happened. It's disgusting. After three days over the weekend now I am at the point that I will just grind my garo wins and never touch PVP again.
Fastest way to fix the problem for now, is to report when you see anything fishy
if they do this parsing is going out the window, cuz it reads the memory of ff14 and keeps a record of the dmg the players do, but I mean it's perfect their TOS already is against parsing, also using cactbot is also cheating cuz it basically plays the game for you, remember they can also just remove PVP altogether competitive side of it like ranking is gone, but I really think it best is all or nothing approach is best it's already again in TOS that addons are not permissible.
The solution is easy for half the community.
Save half the community by separating PC problems than Console Players.
We in PLAYSTATION cannot cheat, so PLEASE let us PLAYSTATION FINAL FANTASY fans play separately than them in PvP.
Problem solved for us.
EFF PC cross-play for competitive games.
First offense permanent bans for anyone caught, not just bans, account actively deleted. Make it so that only an idiot would even try. Also maybe keep ranked (and only ranked) to a certain # of hours played or MSQ progress to at least make sure people can't line up unlimited trial accounts, though I doubt many would do that.
Ah….. thing is……… now this tool will be used because you basically promoted it. Let's hope against it and hope yoshi-P do something about it
the trouble is…….it's third tool party………Also Gshade is not considered illegal thrd party tool. Yoship himself uses Gshade! He has whitelisted Gshade product fully so it is completely fine to use this !
ACT on other hand had cheating/illegal tools in it, however, the creators of ACT saw it and removed the threat in their tools (for exampe, knowing which treasure chest was mimic in potd/where the traps are) these are cheating tools, when they removed it the ACT tool became grey listed.
Dalamud launcher, is very dangerous tool. They need to kill that bull. Yes I know many uses dalamud and whatnot, but it's because you also cheat the marketboard with it etc. Don't act like PVP cheat is different. It even told you when a ward was free, don't tell me you aren't aware you got 7 houses because of cheating. So yes, all are hypocrites
I had a cheater in my Casual game. A warrior that insta pulled as i jumped away on my Red Mage. Happened twice.
It was on the milisecond. One time i didn't even get away a centimeter.
I recorded it aswell & showed my friends, it's fishy as fuck.
Think it can be used to report people?
At the same time, it doesn’t mean people are cheating if they’re doing what they should… for example, it’s not hard to see or hear when someone uses their LB. You can see their LB gauge at all times, and good players will focus-target them for a reason.
You’re basically doing the same thing in the video. Are you cheating? No. People will always be better than you, no matter what.
Quazii you are speaking so much truth dude! I have had several instances where even though we would be losing I was fully ready with a LB and Frazzle and it’s like it literally did nothing to the team they healed almost instantly. Also some crazy deaths that were literally looking away from my health for 2 seconds after I just spawned threw an attack and died (some of these might be just because I suck somewhat lol but still
) I completely agree with you! What is the fun in someone autopiloting?! No skill?! Literally bragging rights for garbage. Can’t wait til they implement something that way we can go back to skill based play!
Anticheat simply is not fesible from multiple perspectives. For one – They would need to make anticheat that works on Windows, Linux, Mac AND Playstation. Thats VERY expensive to make. Two – Anticheat would potentially fuck with mods and other plugins, not to mention ACT. If ACT dies, FF14 raiding dies. It really is just that simple. Something similar happened in heavensward and with the raiding screen so close to dying then, it was noticable. In terms of mods, most of them are harmless, like fixing "hairs" for hrothgar so they actually have ears, or actual hairstyles being made…where as the base game? We literally haven't had a new hairstyle for non-viera/hrothgar in over a YEAR.
Anticheat is not fesible, not to mention yoship has said in the past in no uncertain terms that he doesn't want to implement anything that invades their customers privacy. Mods and plugins are against ToS, and if they wanted to they could of added detection to the game years ago, but they haven't.
The best solution, imo, is similar to how RMT is handled. Or in other words, have a report option when right clicking a players name, instead of having to go through the support desk which is a bit of a headache.
Oh that's why there's some flawless CCs going on lately… shameless ppl.
if your anti cheat fucks up the mods i have installed you can kiss this game good bye.
I hope so but they did allow win-trading to plague ranked Feast until they removed it from the game entirely
I had no idea it was such a big thing going on. I have been malding pretty hard about a lot of these situations happening to me and having a bad time. What a waste of my mental. lol ugh.
Hope they do something about it, otherwise PVP going die again.
In addition of what you mentionned (auto machinist lb, auto cc etc). Isnt there a bug or a cheat idk that makes it possible to 100% to 0 smo with machinist in like .1 second? Happened to me multiple times and I was like "what?"
There's a significant limit to what they are willing to do client-side. If an add-on is simply analyzing the data given to the client by the server (e.g., health, range, cooldowns), I doubt there's a lot they can do to stop an add-on from effective executing a conditional macro. I play on PS5, which is the pure vanilla experience, and it's a bummer that there are people who care more about winning than sustaining a viable community. I'm still having a blast in CC, and I hope that the community does a good job policing itself.
So they turning in wow pvp where it's 2 masses of add-ons duking it out
Cheaters dont care about fun there only one type of fun to em its to ruin all other ppls day