Advice for getting into FF as a Western style prefering player, a lesson in Weeb!
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What's wrong with weeb? Is this a racist thing against Japan or something?
FF14 is a westaboo game
Not far enough. Laid back weebs should be aspired to, not boring ass people who don't like shit they don't understand.
What do you mean?
Weeb refers to aspects of art that almost exclusively appear in japanese art.
If it's good or bad, weird or not is not in the content of the word, that's a subjective case by case thing.
The confusion comes when people use that word as an umbrella term for all the japanese specific depiction of art that THEY don't like.
That's why they can freely run amok and use weeb as a derogatory term for japanese shit they don't like but have no qualms with their fond memories of watching Dragon ball z.
That's why it's impossible to understand what someone means with questions like "is it too weeb?"
My personal beef with japanese art is the conversion of their art styles in the 2D realm to the 3D world.
This includes Ff14.
It's not 3D that does it, it's the degree of realism their adopted with the transition to 3D.
Nintendo stands out in doing the perfect transition, they kept the cartoon/anime flavor into 3D. Blizzard also decided for the cartoonish look of WoW for the same reason. The movie however failed at that, and with diablo3 they made the opposite mistake…
Catgirls and clean shaven men with metrosexual haircuts work in the anime 2D realm, and cartoonized 3D, but the more you turn on the degree of realism the less it works, obviously.
FFXIV has it's "weeb" moments, but this is a Japanese game so it doesn't really feel misplaced to me. It's mostly just an adventure MMO like the rest. The player base is much weebier than the actual game. This can largely be avoided by doing actual game content instead of just standing around chatting.
1:04 "give me a weeb anime off the top of your head."
Me: Naruto, sailor moon, cat planet cuties, inuyasha, DBZ, life of saiki k, my neighbor totoro, Excel saga, Konosuba and hell if you really want to count it, RWBY.
Matt: my hero academia.
Me: … I'll just… see myself out then…
I feel most people that call things weeb are just prejudiced and just auto dislike anything associated with japanese
No, Weebs have gone too fucking far.
I'd rather be called a weed than a wow player
Yes
A realm reborn is not boring if you level like you do in WOW. Skip the boring text and only pay attn to big moments. Simple as that. Sick of all the negative about ARR, wow is frickin boring as shit in the beginning. Who the hell knows what the bloody story is and who cares. Just speed run through it. Same goes for ARR once you get foothold on all the systems just power level through that boring ass text dialogue. Its not bloody rocket science here. Its not as if your gonna miss anything. The crystals the BIG bad guys, the reveal of who the bad guy is then kill bad guys end NEXT
Currently playing ff14 after 10+ years in wow. Finished ARR and really like the story at the end of ARR. I have to say that I still don’t like the lalafell. Can’t take them seriously especially how they are characterized vs how they look
No, it's perfectly appropriate. Negative connotations or not.
so what if it's a weeb game? if you like the game and want to play why should you allow other people's preconceptions stop you from doing it? pso2 is a lot more weeb and that doesn't stop people from paying and enjoying it. can you really say you enjoy wow right now? or are you just playing it for nostalgia's sake and because you sank years of your life in it?
It’s kinda racist if you think about it
People need to be very careful that when using the term 'weeb' and when they think they are being edgy. That they aren't just being strait up racist toward Japanese culture in general because they are over-generalizing the term. It strays dangerously close to being something that meant one thing, and now means another.
I love my au'ra girl
IMO media can't be Weeb. There are Weebs who play FFXIV; Weebs are people and it's their interests, behaviors, etc. that define the annoying personality.
FFXIV is literally just a game made in Japan that isn't 100% geared toward an American audience.
WoW looks 'crisp' because there are likely fewer polygons on a character in WoW than a background object in FFXIV. The aliasing thing is annoying, but as you've said it can be ignored.
I played ffxiv before i found out about the weeb epidemic. It's undeniably a weeb game but it's ok because weebism is contagious.
I switched to FF.. best thing ever. Lahee!! That’s all I have to say!
Neckbeards are the only ones making a fuss about FF being a "weeb" game. Lol
I love these people that call everything Weeb but drop their pants to Dark souls, a JAPANESE GAME SERIES.
tfw wow players bully you because they caught you watching Who Framed Roger Rabbit (it's a weeb movie)
I mean I really wanted to hate FFXIV… and than I downloaded it 1 week ago to just take a look and since than I am at the point that I am not even interested about 9.1 anymore because I am addicted to FFXIV!! And lets make it clear, I used fo sllay wow for 16 years 😁😬
It is weeb. That is the only draw back for me. No character design fits the look I'm feeling. Why are we fighting facts, it's weeby, but that is ok.
a weeb in my book is someone who likes cute anime , with loli's and the occasional demon-girl , ayaya
Don’t know how Naruto didn’t come to mind when thinking of weeb anime.
I'M A WEEB AND I'M PROUD!
"Weeb" is a racist slur. Plain and simple.
people call FF14 weeb but we also call WOW player weebs too …. so what all this stuff about
The Elder Scrolls has Khajiit, which are cat folk – with male and female Khajiit. Does that mean Elder Scrolls is a weeb game? No.
I don't expect much better from WoW players so it doesn't surprise me at all to learn they don't even know how to use and apply words correctly
I never wanted to play alliance cuz I can't fight along with gnomes. played horde until vulpera. it ruined my orc/tauren/troll/undead immersion. goblins were ok too in my book. but fuck furries dude. playing horde never felt the same so I quit
Well ..back in the days was the hair of ff, then was the massive swords, today is the weeb thing. I ve just yawned. Im a gamer and asia makes really good games and anime i ve played a lot and i watched some. I like Japan but i dont want to become Japanese. I wish only i had enough money to play ff and wow
Its stupid, immature and completely inacurate. I have loved final fantasy since the first game, far before the word "weeb" even existed. Passing up on this masterpiece of a game because of that just shows how insanly ignorant you are. I get its style isnt for everyone and thats fine, so if you dont want to give it a try because of that, understandable but still your loss.
it's crazy how brain washed wow players are to think their game looks good lol
WoW's art and music design are both pretty underwhelming compared to FFXIV.
I've only ever heard "weeb" used as a descriptor for people, not properties and media. Going by the idea that a "weeb" thing requires a deeper understanding of Japanese subcultures and tropes though, I think ffxiv avoids a lot of that because it's been developed for a global market from the start. I guess I'm too deep in "weeb culture" to understand why potato people and catgirls are really that hard for people to wrap their heads around, bit regardless I don't think that ffxiv's story or characterization plays into the more "weeby" tropes of nekomimi and lolis.
weeb game is weeb
The more I played ff the more I started to enjoy the art style, the anti aliasing system is ass tho not gonna lie
Weeb has become an overused word. Asmongold and his sheeps will make FFXIV worse. We don't need peole who wouldn't play this game cause "weeb" then start playing it to be like their sheep herder..
Weeb can be a person who is overly obsessed with anime but FF doesn't have any anime in it so calling FF weeb is just pure stupidity.
I will never touch this game. Because its weeb.
All of Limsa is basically weeb. It’s gotten so ridiculously weeby that I quit playing. Cat girls wearing bikinis and screaming kawaii while they blow hearts to each other is weeby and no one can tell me otherwise.
FFXIV weeb game? Naah not really a weeb game
But community? YES… If you think it's not you are probably new or you are playing a bunny girl with nickname "Sakura Chan" with literally copied for google translator random japanese words in character description
You think I'm wrong? Just go to limsa or twitter and very soon you will find some real degenerates
The amount of triggered weebs in the comments 😂😂😂 you can't tell me these wifu over sexualized cat girl, dragon girl shit isn't weeb. Especially lalafells. Shit is so cringe worthy.
I don't know if it is weeb or not, but you can’t deny there is a cultural thing.
I left wow because I don’t like how the game went and how they treat there players and now I play Eso. For a part I think it is a comfort thing. The only real thing I miss are the dwarves. Yeah you have the dwemer in eso but first they were not classic dwarves but a kind of elves and second they are extinct. Eso has more zones that feels comfortable for Europeans. Skyrim, Cyrodill and high Rock feel very Middles ages Western and Hammerfell feels Arabic wich is very close and known to Western people. Some zones doesn't fit in but they are so different between eachother they don't take over the overal cultural feeling. For example elsewyr feels south-asian but is only one zone. Black marsh feels Mexican but is also one zone. And some zones doesn’t fit in on anything on earth like morrowind and Summerset.
Japan was a country that closed its borders for a 214 years with their isolation policy. And even after that Japan stayed a country with a pretty closed culture and ethnic homogeny.
Europeans still find Japan and Korea a closed society with an alien culture, compared to other parts of the world like South America or Africa. While FF14 isn’t maybe that weeb you can’t deny ff14 is influenced a lot by Japanese culture (while eso is influenced by Western culture) and that gives ff for me an unfamiliar feeling. It is nice for a visit as tourist, but not for staying. Add the bad map and the oversexualised catgirls and bunny girls and I gladly end my visit. They have gnomes too in ff14 like in wow but these midgets freak me out even more.
P.S. If you are Western (or not ;)) and enjoy the game. I'm happy for you, tastes differ.
I just want to explain why I think I and a lot of people don't like FF14.
Like Josh strife Hayes would say "have a great day".
This is nothing like what I mean with "weeb". It is a pejorative, yes. But it's a pejorative on the aesthetic that is anime has. It's so prevalent and starting to pollute all other entertainment. I don't like anime. I wouldn't mind it, if it stayed away from things I do like. But when it starts infecting everything else, I start to dislike it.
And no, it's not that I "just haven't seen the good anime" yet. Whatever defines it as anime, distinct from other cartoons, is what I dislike about it. The fact that you name it anime means it has an identifying feature – or several. THOSE FEATURES are what I don't like. And they are all over FFXIV from what I have been presented by all of my friends who keep trying to make me play it.
I’m going back and forth between ESO and FFXIV. You don’t have to call it weeb, but there’s a clear thematic shift when jumping into FF. Like eating a steak dinner then hopping over to a candy store. Just different tastes, both serve a purpose.
I saw a giant horned man ERPing with a baby potato woman surrounded by cat girls dancing in FFXIV today. Is that weeb? I dunno. But I don’t see any of that in ESO and that’s a good thing I think.