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The FFXIV Cash Shop Exists and Therefore I Hate It (by MisshapenChair)
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46 thoughts on “The FFXIV Cash Shop Exists And I Hate It | Asmongold Reacts”

  1. As much as people like to praise the good stuff about this game, sadly, the negative/criticism of this game gets buried in the forums.
    Broken house system that some how got even more broken.
    Jobs becoming more simple and homogenous, thus losing their specific and unique job mechanics.
    Healers complaining for 6+ years to get more interesting and immersive mechanics only to be told," You have to play ultimate."
    If anything, I personally feel that SE is somehow making this dev team smaller and smaller with each year. Otherwise, you cannot excuse Living Dead being ignored since 3.0, up to 6.1

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  2. 3:24 Actually no.
    If the game is good then some people will care more about it being pay2win and also having payable battlepasses.
    But yeah more people will close eyes on item shop pay2win etc if the game is really cool.
    6:58 Yeah it doesn't if the cosmetics are weak, cosmetics must be something cool to make end game people buy them to look awesome, even better is to make class switchable like in FFXIV to make them have multiple characters and buy even more cosmetics for different classes.
    15:14 This is me in any game, I don't care about leveling and RPG mechanics, I just want to have max level with access to all skills get the best loot and testing the game, my skills and different builds to see what works better for me or in game. But if the game is not skill based from player not requiring any fast decissions and thinking then I'm not going to play it. For me doing those quests and going from npc to npc is the most boring thing to do.

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  3. I think Cash Shop in FFXIV is the way it is because the game is subscrption based.
    They dont have to put tons of things into it because it is not that necessary compared to F2P titles.

    Is it bad? I played too much Korean MMOs that i think it is not even an issue. Even the old ones were worse than what FFXIV has at this time, and I didnt even have to wait for longer than a couple of years for those cash shops to went out of control.

    Moral in this story is just convenient arguement, as there is no right and wrong about it other than our own satisfaction.

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  4. "Stop trying to be consistent with what you do. Do what you want to do." Believe it or not this is primarily why I watch and value Asmongold. I thank him for telling people like me the things they need to hear in life. What a dude.

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  5. So many of these comments clearly didn't actually watch the video and just wrote their own opinions first even though the video mentions like more than half the points brought up lol

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  6. Im so conflicted with the whole boosts thing. On one hand I hate it. Make everyone go through the leveling and story together. That makes a standard of accomplishment. However it prevents a lot of people from actually starting the game.
    That is the other hand. I like how the boosts exist so that many who just want to experience the raiding and high end pve can do so. The game has great fights and I want more people to experience that. But again.. one must have the high enough job level and story progression to even access them. The raid only gamers have done so and are blown away by the endgame raids and i love that aspect of it.

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  7. Yeah character boosts are pointless I agree completely if you boost it up you have no clue how to play the class because you haven't spent those 100 odd levels learning I mean maybe if you use it on a class you've already played but then again what would be the point in boosting at that rate you've already done it before its just an excuse for them to get more $$$

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  8. I’m glad the cash shop is there. If people want to pay extra money for stuff that is simply cosmetic, good for them. The only people generally against it are broke people or people who think that they should be able get everything just by playing the game. Subs are the bare minimum to keep the game going and get all those extra updates that were never planned like ultimate raids and stuff. You think that measly sub pays for all that? I don’t think so.

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  9. Cash shop in final fantasy is a "issue" however its still only cosmetic, there are boosts but unlike wow and other mmo's I dont feel "cheated" due to the game itself being the fun, if people boost and skip the story im like dang you wasted 25$ to skip the fun (other than ARR), the cosmetics in game are amazing and most better than cash shop unless you want super casual "social" wear and even then there is massive amounts of in game outfits, constant events for in game free cosmetic outfits/emotes/music/mounts makes it all not even a issue and I find myself often wishing they updated the store more just because I like the game so much and do all the content

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  10. lul, comment section filled with people defending FF14's cash shop or going "oh it's not so bad, it doesn't really matter, it doesn't advertise it" and so on, just cause they like the game. Saying and doing the literal exact things the video called out people for doing so and pointed out how wrong they are. Did these people even watch the video?

    Cash shops are bad, especially for a paid game with a sub, end of story. Just cause Yoshi-P said something about not liking the cash shop is not an excuse or defense for it.

    The only time where a cash shop can come into the conversation is for completely F2P games, but even then we usually see company greed coming in and poisoning the idea of the cash shop. Funding development turns into corporate greed of filling the cash shops with all the good items while having nothing good in the game itself.

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  11. I started ffxiv with a dps class, a few weeks in I boosted a tank just so I didn't have to sit in queues for 30 mins at a time, best decision I've made, saved tons of time and I ended up maining that class later on. 10/10 would boost again

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  12. The reason a lot of FFXIV players don't lose their shit "all" the time about the cash shop is you can literally level/complete most content and not even hear about it. They do however lose their shit when certain emotes/orchestrion rolls (music) and specifically the Cruise Chaser mount went up on there. They are vocal about it. That being said, yes FFXIV is run by SE, but Yoshi constantly explains his disdain for the cash shop and would rather it didn't exist at all. Its why the site is janky AF probably also if you've used it. He even had notes in the last live letter about the Dream Fitting items before you buy feature is in the most "out of the way" place they could put it. It's not "good", it just is what it is. And what it is is the least of all cash shop evils in comparison to other games on the market. shrug I myself have only bought, I think, 2 or 3 things in all 10 years of playing (also a WoW player since start of Cata, but would never buy anything from Blizz again cash shop-wise). Most recently the giant Lunar Whale, 8 seater. Purely because completing this saga and being with it for such a large part of my life has been an "experience" that I will not get elsewhere and never forget, so I intentionally bought that mount for sentimental reasons and to mark the "end" of my journey. I'm sure a lot of people have done similar things over the years with various items.

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  13. I feel like the cash shop is there to remind me that no game is perfect.
    But ffxiv sure has more benefits than any other mmo out there so i will stick with it.

    But still…

    I payed 60$ for the game, 13 bax a month.

    With the amount of players ffxiv has there are no reasons for a cash shop to exist…

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  14. Only watched half of this rant from Asmon, but watched the whole video from Misshapen earlier. So unless Asmon does a 180 in the second half i can confidently say: i disagree wholeheartly with anything here.

    Usually i kinda agree with anything they saying. Here i disagree alot. Yes i dont like cash shop either. Yes i have buyed some emote/outfits here and there. Yes that doesnt make me a hypocrite.

    I dont think Misshapen debunked ANYTHING in his rant. Yes the psychology is as he said. But: the best looking outfits and mounts are in the game obtainable. Apart from cruise shaser i dont think ANY of the mounts look even decent. Outfits from characters are usuable not dyeable or worse a one-piece and others are generic as hell.
    The psychology works if the ingame items are decent or below and cash shop items are 1-3 steps above with custom animations. Then you would have a point.
    You gain no advantage and look awful.

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  15. If they don't remove cash shops in WoW, they should do a thing where monthly subscribers get cash shop money deposited to them everytime they pay their subscription fee, making store items available for simply paying the sub, and for free to play players at the regular price.

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  16. Once again, you can easily see who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't.
    Some facts:

    1) FINAL FANTASY XIV Online Store has a different Development Team that is not the same as the Game's Development Team.
    So, we established that resources are not wasted on Store Items.

    2) Online Store Income is going to directly FUND new Servers and Data Centers, ALONGSIDE money going in the Company's Main Bank.
    This is proven with more than a Dozen Data Centers, more than 50 Worlds, in 4 Regions, including Funding 2 Whole Regions' Data Centers that didn't even exist before, and were announced as being Funded by the Cash Shop.

    3) FINAL FANTASY XIV Online Store sells ALOT of Items. Most of them are Items from previous Seasonal Events that were free for players.
    When a Seasonal Event is up in the game, you can get the rewards, and next year that we get the new version of that event, the previous year's rewards are gone in the store.
    The game has 8 Seasonal Events every year, in 10 years this means 80 storylines that players can get for free, before they go away forever (because the season is over).

    4) Outside the above items that make 90% of the Store Items, they also add some unique items.
    These are:

    i) 3 Unique Mounts yearly.
    ii) Clothes of Prominent NPCs from the game (why would the NPCs give us their clothes?)
    iii) A very small Amount of exclusive Housing Furniture (something like a total of 10).
    iv) About 8 exclusive Orchestrion Rolls.
    v) Gear/Mounts from China/Korea. These items do not belong to Square Enix, but on the companies that run FINAL FANTASY XIV on those countries. They were never going to be released in the global version but players kept asking for them. Square paid those companies and released them.
    vi) About 15 exclusive Emotes.
    vii) Items that were part of FanFest Tickets.
    viii) Services (Name Change, Race Change, Home World Change).

    These are such an unimportant amount of Items, considering:

    i) There are like 200 Mounts ingame. Better Mounts than the Cash Shop ones too.
    ii) I wish they didn't even sold them. Why would an NPC give us their clothes or why would we wear those clothes? So, Cash Shop is worse than the game here.
    iii) There are thousands of furniture items ingame. Nuff said.
    iv) There are hundreds of Orchestrion Rolls ingame. Nuff said.
    v) Nuff said.
    vi) There are hundreds of Emotes ingame. Nuff said.
    vii) Nuff said.
    viii) They even sabotage their services with World Travel and Data Center. This should show you their intentions.

    5) All in all, it is a very fair Online Store IF there must exist one.
    And it MUST exist. The higher ups said to Yoshi-P that he must implement a Store.
    Yoshi-P said only in the Condition that they will use part of the income to open new Servers and Data Centers, will not mess with P2W garbage, keep it out of the game, and not mess with the Story of the game.
    Square-Enix agreed on the Condition that they will put their own Producer and Team on the Store and Yoshi-P's team wouldn't manage it. He agreed and they went their separate ways.

    NONE of the items in the store would exist if the Store didn't exist, and NOT ONE more item would exist ingame if the cash shop didn't exist. We also wouldn't have about 50 Worlds, I as a European would still need to play in USA Servers, and lol Oceanian Servers.

    Sometime, people should understand that they must be informed before starting giving criticism.
    You are not smart, nor wise by offering those disrespectful, mistaken and vile opinions.
    A cash shop is not the same as a different cash shop. Intentions between implementations differ greatly per situation. Circumstances are different.

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  17. Ultimately, “who cares” applies. Another misshapen chair video where he’s trying so hard to be a “bad guy”.
    They don’t sell anything that makes it easier to beat endgame content, and even then, “who cares”.
    You want to use it, go for it. You don’t? That’s fine as well.
    These dumb fucking videos with a “it ruins the game” take can exist solely for a click, and that’s fine as well.
    If you don’t like it, don’t use it. Solved.
    If you get jealous another player has an outfit you don’t, WELCOME TO MMOs!!
    Seriously though, who cares.
    What this “chair” seems to be missing is that if he wasn’t jealous, envious and petty, he wouldn’t give a shit who has what since he’s gotten what they said they’d give him. A great game.
    Square is a company, companies need to make money, when will be be bitching that he has to pay a sub?

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  18. bought several glams from the cash shop and i dont care. this video honestly makes me want to go buy clouds bike. Imagine caring how people spend their own damn money. you have some good points asmon but the cash shop didint kill wow for me
    EDIT: to each their own but if you dont actaully enjoy this story then your doing ffxiv wrong. yoshi-p has said its a jrpg first mmo second

    EDIt 2: and dont act like you didnt get carried by the best players in the game on irrelevant content. do a current ultimate then you might have some say but even that you can get carried through. you only did enough to make youself not look like a noob, your not an expert at ffxiv mr. "Im never going to play ffxiv"

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  19. Word of mouth has been and always will be the best form of advertisement. However. product placement is almost as good. I always have felt that the best way to get initial sales for items on a cash shop is to visibly place those items inside the latest content drop so players can see it in the world. Wait a couple of weeks to a month and then include a customizable version of said items and they will sell…

    Personally, I am a content is king sort of guy. I would rather the quests be what they sell on the cash shop and the cosmetics be the included in rewards that come with them. In this way, even though the rewards may be what draws people to buy, they come with a new contextual gameplay experience. I will not pay for fluff, but I will pay for content of substance. If the fluff comes with said content, then so much the better. But I will not pay for it by itself.

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  20. I don't genuinely care about the cash shop in FFXIV especially since most items were available ingame once and the exclusive items are not really any better than what you can get ingame

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  21. I suppose I'm on of the outliers who frankly have never cared about glamours / transmogs / fashion. I just like to play the game itself and barely even notice what anyone is "wearing". Amount og energy people spend this fashion play is mind boggling to me.

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  22. never forget if a company like CD Projeck Red, the most consumer friendly game Devs "ever" is willing to screw over its customer base then anyone will specially square enix who have form for doing it anyway

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  23. The thing is, it is easier to notice a problem rather than fixing it.

    I mean, bruh i can list everything that is wrong with this country but i'm pretty sure I won't come up with the greatest of solution.

    The thing is about problem solving… It is never really about solving the problem. It's to makes the problem less annoying.

    Sure premium shop, in game currency, pop up.

    I dare you to choose 1 to take out of. And i will know for sure there will still be people complaining.

    That's just the duality of men. Things that are opposite of each other can coexist in the same place.

    So what is the solution? Of course, sacrifice.

    Someone need to be sacrificed. Someone need to be intentionally rejected the opinion of for the convenient of the greater mass. The greater value.

    Well quality, quantity, whales, f2p. You named it.

    In the end, if you felt unhappy. Perhaps you are that sacrifice.

    Nail that sticks out, gets hammered down.

    And that is if you're lucky. Worst case scenario, being exiled.

    Nail that sticks out, get removed and replaced.

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  24. The way I look at a sub fee + cash shop is like how a concert is monetized. You pay money to get in and watch the show, but you can optionally purchase clothes and other merchandise from their “cash shops”

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  25. What the cash shops are annoying in FFXIV is that they sell items from past seasonal events that were provided for free but in the next seasonal event, instead of giving to everyone for free (I mean within the monthly payment fee ), they just take out the item from seasonal and sell it for money… So they are not trying to create a new item to sell. They are just re-using past data to sell.

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  26. The only use I find for job boosts would be if, for some reason, I'm creating a new character and have already learned that job before, and just want to get on with things. I mean, really, in a game where one character can master every single job and be any role, there really isn't a need for creating an alt, unless you just want to RP as a different character. So, in those circumstances, paying for the convenience of boosting jobs is just a time saver.

    I do agree, not actually playing through a job's leveling process creates a handicap that need not be there. This can be destructive. But… IF someone wants to just rush through a process without learning the related mechanics, then that's on them, and they have nobody but themselves to blame if their gameplay experience is diminished. Let them whine if that's the case. They have nobody but themselves to blame.

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