Tank Talk brings together 3 long time Final Fantasy 14 tank players, who each have been part and contributed to the community by releasing guides, streaming, getting world first clears and much more over the years and a WoW world first raider who recently started playing the game. This is a podcast / discussion about the history of tanking in FFXIV and the future changes coming in Endwalker.
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Max (@maximum): https://www.twitch.tv/limit_maximum
Rin Karigani (@RinKarigani): https://www.twitch.tv/rinkarigani
Sindalf (@Sindalf)
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CHAPTERS:
0:00:00 – Introductions
0:10:26 – History of tanking in Final Fantasy 14
0:35:54 – Should all tanks do similar damage? Strengths and weaknesses of each tank job
0:48:40 – Invulnerability skills discussion. Should they get removed?
0:54:50 – Will there be more damage in Endwalker?
1:00:40 – Tank changes and balance in Endwalker
1:41:29 – Competitive / Savage Dungeons
1:48:01 – DPS Checks
1:48:59 – Back to tank changes and invuln discussion
2:12:24 – FFXIV and WoW release schedule
2:14:21 – Ending thoughts and shout outs
Channel Editor: Leo Coman (Discord: Leo#9926)
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Where can I get that much copium?
Didn't Xeno shit all over Max the other day?
Honestly I think people only want homgenization of tanks because they made the abilities bad. The abilities that are left over are basically unusable and require tons of over justification for their continued existence.
There wasn't even an attempt to balance things or change things as the game changed. They just moved towards homogenization to the point where everyone is now wondering why we even have more than one tank
Bring back tank variety and bring it back knowing there will be issues. Then address the issues as they come. Don't just whole sale give up on variety
So apparantly tanking in ffxiv makes you go bald?
Why strummer hate e10
Max can't forget this shit meta thing of wow, he can't realize how that's a bad thing to the game and gladdly in FF14 this is not mandatory like in other shit games like wow
I think one thing most people can agree on is that more content should be at least a little bit harder to do as opposed to completely braindead to finish.
Damn FFXIV content makin me sad since I started playing recently but my GPU just died last week. Hoping I can fix my rig in time for Endwalker
What I expect from this: Bold bearded man blame braindead community for post 3.X change and spend 45min to rant again against Hypervelocity.
About DRK. Self sustain with Souleater and Abyssal are underwhelming heals. Living Dead is a total party drain and requires heavy healer attention. Or Blood Weapon being shit. Or Living Shadow costing Blood on a 2 minute CD and being in the fucking way as a glorified DoT. Or Salted Earth being made objectively worse. Or Shadowbringer being a buffed Dark Passenger.
And bring back Blood Price. If the issue is mah MP mah dps then give the DRK ways to restore MP. Even a skill that just gives you MP like BLM manafont would be preferable.
This class needs a whole rework and at some point they need to fix or change their invuln, give some resource return, have skills that synergize with each other meaning MP and Blackblood interact, and they need to NUKE Delirium from orbit. Being a shit Warrior as a class design is poor class design IMO. Which sadly I think the DElirium/Inner Release QoL change was the best thing DRK got.
TBN needs to be either free in the same vein as Holy Sheltron, HoC, Bloodwhetting/Nascent Flash or needs an upgrade. Oblation is trash. It's worse then OG Shadowskin and worse then role action Rampart. I can only see it marginally useful as an offtank or to pair it up with TBN but you want TBN to break so that's probably not going to end well.
Dark Knight slowly gets more gutted each expansion and it's really bad that DRK only really has TBN to fall back on for mitigation which leaves you pretty defenseless for any content lvl69 and under.
It's just very underwhelming. The other Tank jobs look really good. They have some issues yeah but not as much as DRK. Players have been asking for Living Dead changes for 6 years yet here we are.
Look at stremer making friends hanging with the boys
It took me so long to realize this is ripped from your stream, and that you're not just shouting over them the whole time lmao. Over an hour in.
Will i become bald if I start to tank?
honestly dude the sickest change to warrior is the equilibrium buff. it was already good and now its like almost twice as good? why the fuck did they do that? but hey ill take it
Sindalf on copium for drk 100%
I know Xeno isn't talking over everyone but it just looks so funny.
I miss HW. Heals tanking etc. Some of the most fun and interesting things you could do.
I have EU ping like… 4ms ? So ya EU ping is fine 🙂
Sorry it’s kind of annoying when you talk with chat when other people are talking haha
wheres the spreadsheet tho
Chat complaining about Max bringing up wow all the time, you have to remember that's his only base for comparison. It's not a bad thing lol
ARR I was Paladin, HW was Dark , SB I was Paladin/Dark and SHB I was Gunbreaker/Dark. But boy, with these changes I think I’m going to have to go Paladin/Warrior, which I don’t totally love but I don’t want to let my team die haha
But they weren't wrong about the potencies… they changed. Meaning they were right.
i think we can all agree on paladin being the tank that you can make the most "plays" with.
I love the podcast ! I hope this becomes a regular thing.
I think Xeno missed the actual question on tank damage. Still an interesting take, I agree with the DRK argument, but the question was about gnb.
My experience seems to be unusual, so here's how I got into tanking:
In my brief excursion into WoW, my main wound up being a Dwarf DK(Unholy) named McKnightface. When my friend talked me into trying FFxiv, I wanted to keep the name, so I went with Gladiator, not realizing it was a tank-only class. But I liked the name so I figured I'd stick with it to see if I could git gud, and wound up loving it. Seriously, I hated dungeoning in WoW for the most part because I didnt know the dungeons, so I couldnt keep up. And of course my dumb ass mained dwarves, which have a lower running speed on top of that. But tanking xiv is awesome because the party had to stop and wait for me at some point, and most players have been happy to help me learn.
Interestingly enough, my FC is quite small and a bit heavy on tanks, so I wound up levelling alt classes in heals and dps to be able to do stuff with them.
The beauty of FF XIV is that every job is viable, making all people participate in game and have fun. I am so glad they fix game. No player should ever feel excluded just becasue he plays X or Y class.
I admire FF for that.
CEE DEEZ NUTS LMAO