Summoner Changes – Dawntrail Media Tour FFXIV



I was invited by Square Enix to check out FFXIV Dawntrail early, and here’s how SMN is changing as well as what I think it means …

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26 thoughts on “Summoner Changes – Dawntrail Media Tour FFXIV”

  1. Im gonna be honest, reset this half-assed rework and make a new one, it's one of the worst this game has ever seen, and we have to wait 2 years for every major change

    That's just insane to me how they were satisfied with this, just delete the class if you're barely gonna give it care, jesus christ

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  2. Summoner throughout Endwalker was such a joke, very bummed out to hear of these changes. ): Curious if people were able to give feedback directly to the devs during the tour, they have to know this isn't good enough.

    Edit: So happy you were invited to the Media Tour though, been loving your videos!

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  3. Looks like most people agree, would've been nicer to have the other 3 elemental egi's after phoenix. Rammuh, Shiva, and Leviathan. Big damage number sun dragon is neat but. . . eeeh.

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  4. so when you say that solar bahamut is every second summon, does that mean you still start fights with regular bahamut but now instead of phoenix at odd minutes you’re solaring, meaning it’s alternating between bahamut and phoenix during burst? or does it start with solar right out of the gate and always align solar with raid buffs?

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  5. So disappointed with the summoner changes. Lazy Bahamut reskin nobody asked for instead of other primals everyone has been expecting. Did not “build upon” the barebones kit they made for summoner to work up to. Kept aetherflow practically the same, a tacked on system that barely does anything besides 2 ofcds and 1 gcd spell that you just use once per rotation in the awkward later part of the rotation where you have nothing to summon, oh wait actually they actually decided to expand upon this system that barely has to do anything with summoning by increasing their potency YAY! OH and their new capstone ability a minimal aoe heal that nobody asked for. In this close to just switching classes after being a summoner main for 7 years. It’s like the one time they decide not to completely rework summoner like they do every expansion, is the one time I’m unsatisfied with the class.

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  6. On the one hand, SMN’s “changed” are kinda lacking and super disappointing. On the other hand… yeah it’s very Final Fantasy to just add Even Stronger Bahamut as the next level up for Summons. Happens very frequently.

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  7. I understand the complaints and they have some merrit. But it was never going to happen, all of you wanting three new summons were hoping for way too much work on a class that is in a good place at the moment and with other classes drowning. Solar Bahamut was put in because it has the same skeleton as Bahamut and the animations needed only slightly to be tweaked.
    Most of you set your expectations too high with no evidence for it. Natural flow of this or that is nice but it needs evidence. Like a live letter, there was none. SO LIFE TIP; Do not have unrealistic expectations without any tangible evidence to back it up.
    Like at least 80% of all fiascos in FF14 are players having expectations that are not true. From dancer being a healer, to all content being catered to the hardcore players.

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  8. They could so easily make this job more interesting with minimal effort. Like literally copy AST Astral/Umbral draw to be the 3 different base primals, or after doing 1 cycle you fill a gauge to flip to different primals with more potency but more drawbacks like Picto and Subtractive palette. Hell give us more aetherflow charges to spend on stuff. One-off primal summons to provide a buff. All of it could easily build off the EW rework. I've been a SMN main since 2.0 and it kills me how bad they dropped the ball after they finally gave me my job fantasy in EW

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  9. Anyone that misses SHB Summoner probably has Carpal Tunnel from all the triple weaving they had to do. As someone that's been a Summoner main since I started playing in 2015, EW Summoner is the most fun I've had with the job so I'm fine with what we're getting in Dawntrail. And to anyone that dislikes Solar Bahamut, did you also dislike Fandaniel pulling out Lunar Bahamut? We're just doing what he did, it's completely in line with the game's lore.

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