Scholar used to play like WHAT!? Often times is the reaction I get when I sit down and hash out my main for like 6 or 7 years since ARR’s launch. Yeah. It’s MUCH different than the broil spamming… whatever it really is now. I thought that this video would be very insightful for people curious! Also builds upon knowledge because we’re going to talk about BARRIER HEALERS vs. PURE HEALERS more… and this is a pretty key component!
I find often times that I will say something like “Oh old Scholar was so cool!” and people who just joined for Shadowbringers are like “Oh? Okay that’s nice.” just because I don’t think anyone really talks about it.
And to be honest Scholar has been changed so intensely much over the years that I think this video could be cool for others to watch and me to just fangirl over just how awesome Scholar was in a realm reborn.
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0:00 Intro
1:07 Scholar Job Actions (And BOTH Fairys!)
5:35 Cross-Class Skills
8:17 Scholar Debuffs and Status Aliments
10:08 Core Damaging Skills of SCH
13:58 Rotation Overview
14:35 How We DID Heal
16:09 Gameplay Style Summary and Conclusions
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Nearly 7 years of being a dedicated Scholar main; I quit due to the 5.0 changes and the incremental destruction of what made me love Scholar. Now I'm going to lose Nocturnal AST too… I'm just going to bury myself in pizza to try and get over it… 🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕
healing in cleric stance, dpsing without cs. running brayfox without leeches. punishing, but fun.
As much as I loved the complexity of Scholar in HW, I think the peak gameplay was in Stormblood.
This video made me remember so many good things about my first years of play. I quit SCH with SB after they removed nearly all it had left from ARR T.T I hope that there will be a comeback those feelings in EW, with the fact they need to cut a clear line between Sage and SCH gameplay
Honestly, going into 5.0, healers in general really lost a lot of their charm for me, here’s to hoping they all get some of their complexity back with Sage and 6.0
I want the old Cleric stance back..
I miss SMN from ARR. All my dots!! With my swift cast and thunder from Thaumaturge 😩
Actually I'm not really comfortable with Scholar. I distribute my shields but somehow tank loses health, and in end effect I lose tons of MP to keep his health up. Boss fights are "easy peasy" compared to those famous wall-to-wall pulls: as White Mage or Astrologian I barely break a sweat, but Scholar is… I don't know… With better gear now its not so bad anymore but during leveling, even while updating my gear which wasnt necessary as whm… It was painful. Right now I don't really get warm with Scholar though I loved shield healer in old Guild Wars. True, different game, still… its shields.
What I also find kinda irritating is this whole offensive part. I get why healers have to do dmg, too, and I don't mind – on the contrary. But I'm a healer 1st and I find that Sch skills are just messy and all over the place. I hate that aetherflow nonesense because whenever I need to speedheal of course I have no more charge left. I could dismiss my fairy but I'm feel a lot better knowing it's there – especially given that fact that there are some powerful heals attached to it.
… Yeah, I try but I don't get this job… and I don't think I would have liked a "more engaging gameplay" – as it is now, its engaging enough… and I still don't get it.
Found this pretty cool, while I did play arr I never tried a healer, so now in shadowbringers I've been playing sch and finding it OK but without the context of what has been lost, so this was super interesting to me.
Even thought I did play SCH in 2.0 and 3.0 and greatly enjoy it…I honestly wouldn't want to go back to it. While I do agree having all those dots ticking away on targets and allow you to heal. I would rather stick to 2 maybe 3 dots and no cleric stance myself. I think Stormblood, with AoW instead of Miasma II and some tweaks to Miasma and some sort of reward/incentive to maintain the dots beyond the damage would be my idea sch dps rotation personally.
When I tell folks how many different DOTs Scholar used to have, they think I'm goofing on them
Lustrate being a fixed percentage back then was epic lazy healing (tho Excog is way better compared). Same amount heal even in dps mode Cleric Stance, totally ideal used on WAR when they has thee highest HP pool of tanks especially in their tank stance that increased their own max HP even further. WAR & SCH had good synergy for that. Also miss when SCh faries had their own identity than just a cosmetic choice. Eos was a individual queen of healer support and Selene good for speed runs with aoe haste and had an aoe esuna also a Silent "inject" skill YES my dude i miss this too so ugh 💔
Cross class, remembered when SMN could use Thunder? Hell or when BLM thunder tiers dots could stack and proc forever haha. E4E kinda sucked for me, RNG buff chance to reduce dmg meh I had many times it never proc at all.
I still have my Eos whispering dawn/rouse macro…damn lol
I feel like FF14 has undergone a bit too much streamlining with Shadowbringers, in the effort to keep the game balanced and setting up for an easier time balancing later on. SCH was so fun back in SB (which is the expac I started on) with all of the DoTs and micromanaging the pet as well as that DPS stance, it felt almost as busy as Astrologian and people labeled it as "Green DPS", which was a funny moniker but a legitimate one as there was so much to tweak and optimize. Nowadays, it's just funny yellow shields, spam broil and bio on cooldown, and oh also Chain Strategem whenever the Dancer pops Technical Finish.
I hope they make barrier healers interesting bc I stopped playing sch bc it felt too boring lol
I was there back in 2.0. Scholar was basically Summoner with Heals. They were able to bane dots. To this day, I kept the macro for Scholar healing where I combined fairy heal with mine for double heals. Good times lol.
I remember when bosses especially on 24 man had they their buffs/de buffs area completelly full with dots of all players
Current scholar is best scholar, change my mind
As someone who picked up SCH in shadowbringers, I'm kinda I never played it's past iterations so I don't really know what I'm missing
Honestly the changes suck but this is just me being very optimistic here. But the idea of the pets being complete auto beasts at what they did and now they are just derps. It feels like they're making space for possibly a Pet job? lol again just being hopeful because now the two Sch and Smn are very different so one could hope right?
I remember having a macro to chain 5 Embrace together and then never have to worry about tank health. The nerf on Embrace is just the end of the road for me using sch, used to enjoy it so much.
I hate having no AoE dots' give me shadowflare and Bane back (I would trade art of war for them so quick).
I was sad when miasma 2 was removed and we got aow in its place……. Im with you dude. In my very brief stint in wow I played affliction warlock and I loved it. I've always enjoyed playin with dots. I'd be ecstatic if they made a new caster that was effectively dot management the class
I've played SCH since 2.2 and while I never reached the level of mastery you mentioned in the vid, it still touches on almost every single complaint I have about this class now. The soulless Broil spam with Biolysis for "fun". UGH And I'd trade Art of War for Bane and Shadow Flare any day of the week. Imagine having to choose between it or current Sacred Soil on those Big Pulls
And I know this vid is about the mechanics, but GOD I miss the Scholar identity… the fantasy pseudo-science fusion between a Plague Doctor and the chaos of Early Modern Medicine… mad science healing. Forget the mortar board, give me that plague doctor mask
I played SCH and SMN in ARR, then had to quit the game for years and came back in 5.2 Half my skillbar was grey icons crossed over in red, ended up starting a new character… I miss Selene too I loved her. Delubrum is my happy place pretending I still have cleric stance XD Still a SCH main tho, maybe Sage will change that.
I'm just throwing out there. My prog group in ARR had a very good white mage and I ALWAYS used selene for the dps buffs
I miss old scholar, I ended up quitting the game one month into shadowbringers.
i was 2.0 scholar Xd oof that was a rough time XD
Unpopular opinion… Healers should heal and not focus on damage. Ive read and heard a lot of people saying that they quit playing healers because their damage rotations and other things… became less powerful. Like… whuh? Focus on keeping people alive! Like one of the comments around here says "Scholar used to be basically Summoner with Heals". Thats a no. For more than a decade i have been looking for a healer that was… a healer. Dedicated classes doing dedicated class things and not a mage moonlighting as a healer.
Honestly, i think people got spoiled to the Ease of WoW and WoW clones and expect a healer/cleric to be a fighter… like a Paladin that turned into a caster…. Tanking and doing decent damage… while healing on the side. Thats a HUGE nope for me. Healers should be focusing on keeping the tank and group alive. Good healers should keep everyone at or near full health at most all times, the stress comes from juggling all those things together.. while getting a few cheeky jabs in on the boss when nobody needs aid. That can surely be done with the Scholar, shield, dot boss, heal group, DD a few times, heal tank, patch up the group, redot boss… etc etc. It should be a purely dynamic experience based on every little variation of thing going on.
I have only had one occurance of this happening, but a group was talking to me and asked me if i was a wowfugee because i was healing like someone from there. From my experience, wow healers were just wizards with a heal spell. So i dont get the ideology there… But when they were saying i shouldnt be focused on healing and instead doing as much damage as i could do to the boss and only healing when someone was about to die… Coming from non sprouts this confused tf out of me because… that sounds stupid af. Why would i NOT want to keep my party at a health level that suited large HP losses? Would it be benefitial to not keep my samuri at 75%ish and instead let him drop down to 40% in favor of doing a few DPS more to the boss… when the bosses AoE could one shot our main DPS at that level? I mean, that makes sense right?
IDK, the FFXIV community seems really off base to me.. but then again i have stayed out of MMOs for the last 15ish years simply because WoW ruined everything. shrug
What i miss about old style game play: it keep us really busy, micromanaging the fairy,
cleric stance with controller where i have the entire macro changing my key mapping once i hit that cleric stance+managing dots
I think the devs are getting ready to re-work SCH in Endwalker. I don't see how there can be two different faeries that do the same thing and that just be a thing. SCH should be the hardcore big brain healer due to it's lore/astetic. The faerie play was also pretty good, so. Hopefully one day they will do something to make it more.
I totally agree with everything in this video. Heck, I was stubborn enough in 2.0-3.0 to NEVER use macros and I micromanaged all of what you said myself. it made content so much more fun. Was it hard? Yes, very hard, like sweaty palms hard. But I had so much damn fun playing SCH back then. I got to end game on my SCH in 5.0 and it just ripped my heart out and made me so angry at the Devs for not just improving upon the mechanics and streamlining what we had, instead of ripping out spells and then even nerfing us so we did less damage than a WHM. SCH was always the "Big Brain" DPS Healer and going even further, it was never about reaction healing.
If you were a Reactionary Healer as a SCH to any content pre-5.0 you were 100% playing your job wrong. SCH was about Mitigating DMG before the tank would even get hit. Even your DPS kit and those debuffs played off this idea that you were PREVENTING Damage, not healing it. While a White Mage was a pure healer and meant for healing damage after it was done. SO they worked super well together. A SCH mitigating the damage, and a WHM healing what damage did come in, meant that your Healers were cooperating. Post 5.0 SCH always felt like I was fighting the WHM not working with them, to prove my healing was just as good. (It wasnt, and our DMG was significantly worse as well) Post 5.0- Dual WHM or AST/WHM is significantly more advantageous than taking a SCH/WHM. God help you if your PUG gets a SCH/SCH in end game 5.0+ content…