I have a solution: Square Enix can give us all it for free so it isn't on the cash shop. Their whole argument falls apart about making money off of their culture and it's a way to pretty much flip them off.
Before the Sami, or Saami or Sámi council tries to appropriate the attire for themselves, perhaps they should decide on the correct way of writing their own name in the letters they write.
Cultural appropriation is the one idea that made me question my own ideologies as a teen because it just seemed so stupid to me. Literally crying over clothes.
Never even heard of this culture till this. So I can't say I have any valuable input other than it's just a outfit for a fictional game In a Fictional universe…..get over it?
Square can legally fight this by saying it’s not Sami and any similarities are purely accidental.
While I’m not the one to advocate for cultural appropriation. The Sami sounding very entitled right now. And no one wants to listen to assholes seriously. Alternatively, FF14 team can write a quest series revolving Sami culture but inside FF14 universe. There’s many cultures we haven’t yet explored in aldenard. And instead of being butt-hurt about it on Twitter. They can actually try to embrace the fact their culture is now presented in a popular MMO. Use this chance to spread your culture instead of gatekeeping it like some horrid goblins.
If they do that, perhaps people would learn about their culture. Instead of being ignorant of it despite living in the countries Sami culture is a part of. Yes, I live there, and this is the first time I’m hearing of it. I mean, I was never a good history student. But still.
SQE should not bow to this demand. Cultural Appropriation and the notion of different cultures enjoying and indulging in aspects of other cultures being damaging is a myth. Cultures that do not spread die or stagnate.
They want money. It's one thing to say it's an inaccurate representation of their cultural outfit (which it kind of is – it's most likely based of the outfit they're complaining about but said traditional outfit is just as diverse in style so they can't even claim every single thing out there), it's another to try and strong arm another company just because Disney relented that one time.
The fact that SE dismissed the Saami in Jan was the right thing to do. There culture clothing barely matchs the Mog Station outfit. Disney money must be running out for the Saami, so they have to find a new money maker.
Whats different between them? 1. Hat are different in styles 2. Saami don't wear that style of coat. Saami wear one piece dress, the mog station is clearly visable 2 piece style. 3. The boots are the closest thing to Saami culture, but there are differences between them.
I don't include the scarf nor skirt for a following reasons. The scarf is something that can be found in almost any culture and in a wide variety of patterns. There is nothing special that makes it Saami only. The skirt isn't even part of Saami traditional clothing. So, with that being said. You can't say someone is stealing your culture if there almost nothing there to say "Ya, that's Saami culture right there."
I dont like this attire set, but im going to buy it now SE you're welcome to take any of the traditional clothing of my people and sell it on the mog cash shop
The sami dont own a trade mark on the design of the attire so i don't see a problem here, I think its just a group of stupid people that are seeking attention.
I dont see anything wrong with this, the sami people(includes me fyi) are a very small people, the fact that we get representation in a game or the movie frozen is amazing. People are so greedy, the sami council should calm down xD I doubt most sami people are against this
As a Finn, when I go up to Lappland next time I better not see a single western piece of clothing within 100 mile radius. Nor any food we Finns make nor they can communicate to us in Finnish.
Because why the fuck not? They better not appropriate my heritage. Also, I am sorry for speaking English. Didn't mean to assume I could do that as a foreigner, but unlike the uncultured Sami I have decency to apologize for this. Sorry again.
"The deliberate misappropriation of protected and protectable Sami intangible cultural property is being done knowingly and willfully". 1. What does that actualy means? Specifically the "misappropriation of cultural property", how can you "missapropriate" a piece of clothing? 2. "being done knowingly and willfully" Yeah, no. You gotta prove that, and no "it's in a game so it's bad" is not an argument. 3. " intangible cultural property" It's a piece of clothing get over yourselves. 4. Square never have/had claimed that this outfit was their idea. TL:DR it's a nothing burger not worth your or anyone else's time
Can someone send them a dictionary? They are just tossing out words without looking anything up or consulting a lawyer on this and as a layman myself wouldn't and couldn't associate the costume to anybody's intellectual property but SE that designed this.
Thoughts?
I have a solution: Square Enix can give us all it for free so it isn't on the cash shop. Their whole argument falls apart about making money off of their culture and it's a way to pretty much flip them off.
Before the Sami, or Saami or Sámi council tries to appropriate the attire for themselves, perhaps they should decide on the correct way of writing their own name in the letters they write.
Cultural appropriation is the one idea that made me question my own ideologies as a teen because it just seemed so stupid to me. Literally crying over clothes.
This council woke up and decided to make their supposed charges look like thin skinned wussies all in the sake of chasing a buck and some soft power.
Never even heard of this culture till this. So I can't say I have any valuable input other than it's just a outfit for a fictional game In a Fictional universe…..get over it?
Square can legally fight this by saying it’s not Sami and any similarities are purely accidental.
While I’m not the one to advocate for cultural appropriation. The Sami sounding very entitled right now. And no one wants to listen to assholes seriously.
Alternatively, FF14 team can write a quest series revolving Sami culture but inside FF14 universe. There’s many cultures we haven’t yet explored in aldenard.
And instead of being butt-hurt about it on Twitter. They can actually try to embrace the fact their culture is now presented in a popular MMO. Use this chance to spread your culture instead of gatekeeping it like some horrid goblins.
If they do that, perhaps people would learn about their culture. Instead of being ignorant of it despite living in the countries Sami culture is a part of. Yes, I live there, and this is the first time I’m hearing of it. I mean, I was never a good history student. But still.
i don't want to believe real Sami council is that idiot as a finn and hope this is just Twitter be a idiot
SQE should not bow to this demand. Cultural Appropriation and the notion of different cultures enjoying and indulging in aspects of other cultures being damaging is a myth. Cultures that do not spread die or stagnate.
so Saami are dicks got it
Show the trademark or get fucked Sami Council
Only two words
"Cash grab," nuff said.🤑
They want money. It's one thing to say it's an inaccurate representation of their cultural outfit (which it kind of is – it's most likely based of the outfit they're complaining about but said traditional outfit is just as diverse in style so they can't even claim every single thing out there), it's another to try and strong arm another company just because Disney relented that one time.
The fact that SE dismissed the Saami in Jan was the right thing to do. There culture clothing barely matchs the Mog Station outfit. Disney money must be running out for the Saami, so they have to find a new money maker.
Whats different between them?
1. Hat are different in styles
2. Saami don't wear that style of coat. Saami wear one piece dress, the mog station is clearly visable 2 piece style.
3. The boots are the closest thing to Saami culture, but there are differences between them.
I don't include the scarf nor skirt for a following reasons. The scarf is something that can be found in almost any culture and in a wide variety of patterns. There is nothing special that makes it Saami only. The skirt isn't even part of Saami traditional clothing. So, with that being said. You can't say someone is stealing your culture if there almost nothing there to say "Ya, that's Saami culture right there."
The outfits were ugly as all sin anyway. They can keep them.
I dont like this attire set, but im going to buy it now
SE you're welcome to take any of the traditional clothing of my people and sell it on the mog cash shop
The sami dont own a trade mark on the design of the attire so i don't see a problem here, I think its just a group of stupid people that are seeking attention.
I dont see anything wrong with this, the sami people(includes me fyi) are a very small people, the fact that we get representation in a game or the movie frozen is amazing. People are so greedy, the sami council should calm down xD I doubt most sami people are against this
As a Finn, when I go up to Lappland next time I better not see a single western piece of clothing within 100 mile radius. Nor any food we Finns make nor they can communicate to us in Finnish.
Because why the fuck not? They better not appropriate my heritage. Also, I am sorry for speaking English. Didn't mean to assume I could do that as a foreigner, but unlike the uncultured Sami I have decency to apologize for this. Sorry again.
"The deliberate misappropriation of protected and protectable Sami intangible cultural property is being done knowingly and willfully".
1. What does that actualy means? Specifically the "misappropriation of cultural property", how can you "missapropriate" a piece of clothing?
2. "being done knowingly and willfully" Yeah, no. You gotta prove that, and no "it's in a game so it's bad" is not an argument.
3. " intangible cultural property" It's a piece of clothing get over yourselves.
4. Square never have/had claimed that this outfit was their idea.
TL:DR it's a nothing burger not worth your or anyone else's time
Can someone send them a dictionary? They are just tossing out words without looking anything up or consulting a lawyer on this and as a layman myself wouldn't and couldn't associate the costume to anybody's intellectual property but SE that designed this.
Surly you’re Culture being used in a video game is a good thing, more exposure for something most people have never even heard of.
The fact they saying “we’re open to debate” means they just want Money and it’s not about their Culture being used.