PART 1: https://youtu.be/ySHEKPsjiyc
Mist, one of the 2 accused players in the Imgur post comes on stream to tell his side of the story. Do you think he is guilty or did the anonymous poster create this Final Fantasy 14 Drama because of some petty reason?
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the more stories i hear like this, the more i hate the ff14 community. children
0:50 – how can Xeno think it's all entirely bullshit when he has barely any evidence and information to swing it either way? His sense of skepticism is through the roof when considering if the image might be real or fake (50/50), but then to conclude it's probably fake based on barely any information is actually crazy. It's like saying "Eh that photo of UFO, we can't know if it's real or fake. But it's probably real because I talked to the photographer" while claiming he has a neutral cautious standpoint. For someone who demands an insane amount of evidence to believe something, he is incredibly quick to jump to conclusions instead of having an actual neutral standpoint, which is to say we don't know and we need more information
Are people naive for automatically believing a random screenshot? Probably, although it's definitely not that hard to believe that men act like this in private discords. Is it crazy to conclude it's fake based on basically no useful information? Yup. Is it silly to say this isn't criminal and that the police would laugh about it, then 10 mins later say it's suspicious because they posted it on twitter instead of going to the police? Yeah.
Xenoys Vex slowly turning into Panthra with these drama stories 😂😂
Insert spicy comment here. Good job milord!
if he really wants to prove the file integrity he should ask twitch to hash the file when they send it to verify then others can view the hash to prove that it hasn't been altered
This reeks of bullshit, And the fact that people are already coming out And turning on each other to point at who was the one who faked it really is the icing on the cake. How much you wanna bet the handful of comments on this video attacking this guy are alts made by that person who got exposed as making alts for bullying In relation to this? 🤣
Did people already forget who this is we are watching? Who Xeno already has had to deal with in the past??? He has plenty of experience with the scumiest people of this community. And do you know what he fucking did regarding that? HE FUCKING CAME WITH INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE. You can’t just waltz in here with shoddily photoshopped conversations and expect to create the next Lionel level banishment from the community. Come back when you have actual indisputable evidence, and maybe people will take you seriously.
In this day and age, where capturing evidence of online interactions can happen with the click of a button, there is conveniently no real evidence.
Could he be a garbage human? Sure. Will I believe it without proper evidence? No.
Also, one of the big things is this accuser was in this discord for months and stayed inside of it. Now it’s an issue?
I feel like the percentage of people that care about this is smaller than my di@k…. and I don't have a di@k.
I'm going to become a motorcycle riding security guard in the future.
*just fyi adults can be groomed (SA survivor/advocate here) grooming just means to set someone up for a codependent relationship, especially in an imbalanced power dynamic. For example, a manager who is giving an employee gifts/special treatment, and an intimate relationship between them forms, that can be seen as a case of a manager grooming their employee.
the sad reality of the situation is that the moment I saw that imgur post, I said to myself another ff14 W because I came to expect these things from these guys. Sad situation all around even if this one isnt true.
This makes him seem even more sus to be honest. Dude gets accused of being a real piece of shit, then comes here and can't think of anyone that would do this. To me, that sounds exactly how a guilty child would behave. Not necessarily that he did this stuff specifically, just that he feels the need to have never wronged anyone ever and that makes me think that someone has some serious legit grievances here.
The people who banned these guys on their discord servers over an imgur are total sacks of shit
Ughh can someone give context? No idea what is going on.
So basically. Save every single conversation you have online. Otherwise someone could make a fake imgur and accuse you of shit. Got it.
i think the discord evidence against mist is bogus but i don't believe someone has a discord server full of people hating them without trying to figure out what they did to get the following…
That is all bullshit. He was in that disc why else would he be on there.
FFXIV got so many unstable people doing weird shit. Must be awful to be creator for the game, when people are witchhunting constantly, even if you have not done anything wrong and people believe the bullshit.
How can you say you have no idea who would have done this, and then right after talk about how there is a whole discord server who is made to hate on them?
Just a thought on this:
Who knows, it can also be the person who had a fallen out with you who did not do it, but instead, it is their friends who did it, and it's just simply because the person was QQing or Crying to their friends about the fallen out (whether it be exaggeration or not), and then their friends decided to take some actions on you (on their own instead).
They don't necessarily have to have an issue with you directly, but they can certainly have an issue with you purely because they thinks doing so is a form of revenge for their friend, and this is done without your friend's knowledge as well.
I dunno Mist. But I do know Ai. And Ai, from my experience, is kind of a massive tool. He's rude, doesn't respect other people's time, says some questionable things at times and is generally a pretty big a-hole to people in PF. I was friends with them for a bit and even ran a small criterion group with him, but I cut contact ages ago.
That being said? There's no reason for me to believe the original screenshots as being real, despite my predisposition to not liking him. I wouldn't neccessarily find it the most shocking thing in the world to find out he's a bigger tool than I already thought he was, but nothing I've seen about him would indicate he'd go to such lengths. If anything, I've got personal experience with someone trying to randomly slander him in my /tells. A user by the name of "Banana Creampie" spotted me in PF one time, recognized I used to play with Ai, and asked if I still did. I said "I guess if he showed up in my PF I wouldn't really refuse his help?" more or less, because I'd already stopped talking to him for months by that point. They proceeded more or less accuse him of touching kids in my DMs and call me terrible for still wanting to associate with someone like that, despite… y'know, not associating.
So while I'm also a bit skeptical of a whole discord being out there to hate on these two, I do have personal experience with at least one person going after me, specifically, because I associated with Ai, and trying to smear him. Which, I'll be real, you don't need to smear him, the guy does a plenty good job of it himself. I dunno why you need to make him out to be worse than he is.
There's evidence of Xeno not knowing Tel Chan on the 2024-12-18 VoD at 5:20:42, where Tel Chan joins his FRU party, alongside Mist Moon, and Xeno says "Oh, it's Tel Chan. Wait, do we know them? I don't know if we know them." and proceeds to inspect their adventurer plate.
I knew I'd seen that name somewhere before, so I did a little search. Btw, they didn't clear, but they got to a 0.7% enrage, immediately after which Tel Chan left the party.
Imagine Xeems posted as Mist to cause drama then to resolve it for content, baldo beginning to believe
"[…] docking […]"… looks at chat Yep, just as expected…
Innocent or not, this type of things only happens to certain type of players in this game. Keep low profile and enjoy others drama. 😂😂😂
17:54 Dude's ai! 😂
0:07 I genuinely have no idea what that is but assume based on context it’s something very bad? can someone explain it to me.
is this the gcbtw i hear so much about?
Censored discord IDs? This stinks of BS.
Honestly both 'sides' in this seem sus and it feels like a lose-lose for Xeno to get involved. I guess it's a win in terms of views but personally not a fan of this content.
I know it’s dumb, but literally every Discord server I‘m on has color pickers or colors set by the owners for user groups and never ever see I users with this basic baby blue, not to mention two different ones in a row. It‘s always bright green, red, DARK blue, yellow bla bla bla, but NEVER this blue. xD
Brian Banks. That entire story is the reason why evidence should PROVE without a shadow of a doubt that you are guilty. An accusation without proper substance or evidence is just that, an accusation. The imgur doesn't prove guilt of the people being accused and can be easily replicated.
This is why I don’t mess with statics too much. I’ll go on the community discords to get my clears. There’s too many people with a lack of vitamin D in their lives and have these weird mental issues. 😅
I think another big reason to why this is BS is not screenshotting the whole profiles. It tells you when you made your profile, when you joined said server if you're inspecting it from the members list as well. If they were actually real they'd screenshot the whole thing.