Let's Talk Asmongold, Pyromancer, and My Issues with Anger



Last week a lot happened in the Final Fantasy XIV community so I want to share some thoughts on my own issues with Anger, my talk with Pryomancer, and the impact of a second Asmongold Reacts Video – Oringal Asmongold Reacts Data Analysis Video: https://youtu.be/uRh3ZGUsMJE
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Outline
0:00 Video Outline & Intro
1:53 What Happened
2:29 My Issues with Anger
6:50 My Converstation with Pyromancer
11:43 Asmongold’s Impact on My Videos
15:49 Why Drama Content isn’t good content
20:00 Final Takeway from This Video

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35 thoughts on “Let's Talk Asmongold, Pyromancer, and My Issues with Anger”

  1. Personally Yoshi P lost all credibility with me. What did it for me, specifically, was the line about how they'll work on implementing features from the 3rd party add-ons into the main game. Now, the reason this bothers me so much is pretty simple: You'll a guy, straight up in the middle of prog, for 10 days for using addons. But then you'll happily turn around and steal those ideas for yourself and put them into the game as your own idea.

    I'm sorry but screw that every which way to sunday. It's an amazing amount of hypocrisy. Secondly, they'll ban people for using even simple addons that, for example, allow Hrotgar and Viere to actually use hats, something that we've been begging for, for what…two..almost three years now? But don't worry, instead of giving us what is, frankly, reasonable, they will instead give us a new hair styles.

    Hair styles so terrible, even they were laughing at the quality on display in their own livestream. Talk about a slap in the face. It's nothing short of hypocrisy and cowardice with SE hoping to use the all around good will Yoshi P has earned to weaponize it against the fans.

    So, yeah. I'm out.

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  2. I feel this on so many levels. I too struggle with my anger and have gone through a lot of things in order to try to get control of it, worst part is that it is my default emotion and my mind has been programed to go to that, so whenever I get sad, I'm sad for like 2 seconds and then burn up with rage. I have dealt with it for many years and so much therapy. It for me, is a learned behavior and I'm pretty sure will be with me until the end, but I'm glad that I have leared some good tools along the way.

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  3. Results matter more then apologies.
    This cycle will continue on and on and on until something quite literally snaps.

    If one cannot take the heat or even something as simple as someone voicing a slight rebuttal over a point? Then they really need to rethink their live-chat options and for him to keep relying on the same excuses every single time really doesn't give him 'an out'.

    Empathy is fine, forgiveness is fine…but constantly giving either without evidence of real change creates a cycle of hatred that will burn all parties.

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  4. I'm gonna be completely honest. Me and my Dad both have bad anger and neither of us have ever gone to therapy. But my anger has gotten worse as I grow more stressed in my older age. My kids are a prime example. Like the other day my oldest 8 and my autistic son 4 was fighting and I told them 1000s times to stop and then they hurt their mother by accident but I exploded and snatched up my son yelled at him cause he started the fight and made him go to his room but I felt bad for snapping. I love my kids but damn life is stressful.

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  5. Anger is really a vent. The idea is to vent these smaller moments as they happen, but sometimes you don’t and then your anger is dropped on the least deserving person or situation.
    The problem is YT, and to a greater extent the internet, is anonymous. People will say things here or on Twitter or Reddit that they would never say to someone in person.
    Example being the person who is saying you’re “milking” this content. You provide a channel that is free beyond the occasional 15 seconds of ads and yet the person feels it necessary to say this. Someone comes up to him on multiple days giving him a snickers bar and suddenly he gets angry that it isn’t a KitKat. It’s knee jerk reactions by people who, I believe, are venting frustration over something in their own life and are taking it out on someone undeserving. It’s human nature. Some are just better at doling it out along the way instead of exploding.

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  6. One of the darker things with ADD/ADHD is that someone affected by that can have the rage equivalent of a seizure. That's why when you see them starting to tilt that way… back off and let them regain composure. That might have been what we saw in Pyromancer's chat.

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  7. Never make decisions when ya mad dude.
    I too suffered from anger and reaction issues for years.
    Worked real hard on myself over the last 5years and am pretty bulletproof on anger these days.
    Just focus on your energy and get away from stuff negating positivity if it’s not on a diplomatic rational level.
    If it’s not constructively received or impossible to communicate with then just sever that direction.

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  8. Thanks Brian for showing your data regarding Asmongold reacting and drama content on YouTube, particularly in our community. I don't create content (yet), but this is quite interesting to me. Cheers ☺️

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  9. Man, buddy, I feel for anger folks. I do understand you can't always know you're gonna be triggered. I myself don't really get angry much, but apparently I get that from my dad, who was always very laid back. Still, I hope and pray for y'all, and I can't pretend to understand how difficult it can be. Much respect for talking about your own struggles and looking at Asmon and Pyro from a point of empathy. We need more people to do that.

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  10. I’ve had anger issues as well. It’s a combination of genetics and a depressive disorder. It’s been a struggle to overcome and the battle will never fully be overcome. It’s an ongoing struggle that will likely never really end.

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  11. If you're going to be out in the public eye or on the internet, you better have a thick skin. If you are easily provoked, people will eat you alive and they'll do it because they can. Generally speaking, it's better to be more logical and rational than emotional. Being undisciplined and emotional just means you're easy to manipulate and provoke. Asmon is pretty good at handling the idiots on his stream. Just recently, someone in his chat called him a liar for a claim he made. Did Asmon lose his crap? No, he went back and showed proof of what he claimed and then demanded an apology from the guy claiming he was lying or get banned. Asmon got his apology, but even if he didn't the clown would've been banned and that would have been it. Problem solved either way. He also takes breaks which I'm not sure Pyro does.

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  12. Brian… I thought I had control of my anger until December 20th of last year. When I was passed up for a promotion I was told I got. This was due to a policy error. I got so angry we almost cancelled Christmas… and almost split up from my spouse due to the fight that lasted 5 days. I wasn't angry with my spouse. I was angry with myself and the policy. So, in January I took and channeled that anger and did research into the policy and why it was flawed. After a lot of writing, reviewing, and analysis. I presented a case and got the policy changed on a national scale. Took 4 months and I couldn't be happier. My anger turned to focus after 2 weeks. But it took me 2 solid weeks to get my mind right. It was a very dark place and I almost lost my family over anger. So, trust me. I understand where you are coming from. Thank you for everything you do. Your videos bring me joy in the analysis I give on myself from your content.

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  13. A little kindness goes a long way. Whether I agree or disagree with someone's actions, at the end of the day, we are all human beings and we will make mistakes. BUT, hounding someone over it is both useless, counter-productive and inflammatory. Let it go people, life is too short to hold on to baggage that harms your spirit. ☹

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  14. I've always had anger issues, but I managed to self regulate and manage the anger on my own after high school, but it's been hard with my depression. There have been more than a few situations since school when I've had to be pre-emptive and complely remove myself since there is illogical anger ( more than when I did not have dep ) due to a fixated misconception due to my depression.

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  15. Always Love your content! I was super excited to see my Husband also watching your Videos now that he's returned to FFXIV.

    Anger in video games is hard. I have PTSD, im Bipolar. Being able to keep a cool head while raiding and also streaming can be a challenge. But its possible. the AGE factor has helped me so much. Im 32 now. id deff say the age helps. You just have more time controlling your anger under your belt. its not a cure. its just more practice at a skillset. thats all ♥

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  16. Food is a huge factor in my moods. I'll eat a couple oreos and 15 min later wonder why I'm raging about everything. I'd pay attention to that and yet another reason to eat healthy.

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  17. I understand anger issues, I was abused very badly and suffer from PTSD so I struggle with extreme reactions when I feel attacked but that is something I was expected to deal with when I worked jobs involving customer service. Anger issues are not my issue with people like Pyro, it's the entirled attitude and this idea that he's forced to stream or read comments if he is not equipped to handle it because this happens a lot. It's one thing to have a rare outburst and another for that to become this constant thing using your issues as an excuse. I only care about someone knowing about their issues if they actively change their behavior because streamers do not have to stream, if you're too explosive for that then just film Let's Plays, or don't read chat, hire someone to go through the comments and highlight the ones they believe you should comment on like some other streamers do that don't even have anger problems, but if he keeps doing these streams, getting overly mad and belittling the community and people thatjust disagree and aren't even rude because he's venting on them, then the apology means nothing.

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  18. If you had anger issues, then you’re “Poker Face” is the stuff even LEGENDS can’t match. You have the God-given gift of “Longsuffering” aka Patience and Slowness to anger. DON’T EVER feel like you need to explain anything to us; but if you feel it necessary to express yourself, do so.

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  19. I don’t know what you’re going through Brian, only you know of course, but I can relate. As no doubt many of us can. Recently I had a bit of a ‘bad moment’. It’s been a few weeks but I’m still upset at my loss of control. It lasted literally one minute and the event followed, burn out, depression and losing my job, good grief I sound like a cliché, sorry, circumstances but yeah, the point is, sometimes you can’t control it. I’m working on my issues, I will continue to work on them. I hope to do better. No cures, but like you said, there are tools. I’m arming myself as best I can! 😁 One day at a time!
    Building a career as a YouTuber and content creator vaguely resembles that old job, of door to door sales. By which I mean, you knock and you can’t be sure who or if, someone will answer. Will you get people’s attention? Do you want a certain type of viewer to pay attention to you? Retaining people’s attention is like calling customers to your market stall over every other vendor yelling at the same time. I don’t know why I’m using weird comparisons. 😅 Keep up the good job, you are trying new things and watching the results. That’s likely how you’ll find what works best for you. 👍 Stay safe Brian. ❤️

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  20. I used to have a lot of anger issues when I was younger, and always assumed the worst in people and myself. So I can kind of understand what people like Pyromancer goes through. But at some point, I had to ask myself why it mattered, why I would have such a disproportionate reaction to trifling inconveniences and issues. Still a work in progress but I'm in a much better place now. It's just sad that it took me about 40 years to get where I am now.

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  21. Anger issues are usually portrayed by the things that results in outbursts, their frequency, and the severity of those outbursts. Pyromancer has had a lot of outbursts, which is why he draws so much attention. He frequently picks fights with his community as well. And honestly, if a game like FF14 is causing those outbursts, you should stay away from the game. You shouldn't be raging that hard while playing a game that's meant for fun. If this is happening regularly, you're feeding that anger and it's only going to get worse.

    This runs in stark contrast to Asmongold's 0.1% outburst. Frequency for him is extremely low and he's largely in control of himself.

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  22. I have anger issues, I've lost jobs because of my anger issues. It is something I have to deal with, and accept the consequences when I don't. That being said I understand what Pyro did, but I also feel he took it the wrong way. If he was getting so upset and bothered by what was going on, maybe he should have just ended the stream. Sometimes when I'm angry and frustrated I just walk away. It doesn't always work but sometimes it helps. Also, it doesn't look good when you are a big face and presence on Twitch like Pyro is. I'm happy to hear your own thoughts Brian and talked to Pyro. I still don't know if I can watch his streams again for a while just because of his comments but that might change after some time.

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  23. I noticed during that Pyro rant, he actually got to the place where he said to himself "I should just end stream". But he was too deep in the moment/anger to follow the logic rather than the instinct. Was a sad moment, but hopefully he will learn some strategies from the discusssion and wisdom you imparted to him.

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  24. Another great video! Empathy, compassion and kindness is something we desperately need. We can be so harsh and judgmental to others (its easy behind a keyboard). A rule of thumb for me is to stop and think before comment or engaging with content creator if I am upset.

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  25. I have the opposite problem. Im so passive and standoffish to the point that im a pushover and let people take advantage of my neutrality. So i can use some of that anger lol

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  26. I can empathize. Just cause we don't show it, doesn't mean we don't have struggles with anger. It seems like your efforts to manage your emotions are working well. Stay safe and healthy friend.

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  27. Westerners and their constant need to go Dear Diary about their issues on the net. Sort yourself out with a professional. Also I'm tired of content creators use mental illness to excuse their repetitive bad behaviour. The internet can degrade your psyche if you are not a well adjusted person off screen.

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