I really did wanna show everyone my method for handling spoilers for a while. Really glad I got the chance to. But for those still interested in seeing the JoCat collab here it is!
#ffxiv #gaming #lore
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I really did wanna show everyone my method for handling spoilers for a while. Really glad I got the chance to. But for those still interested in seeing the JoCat collab here it is!
#ffxiv #gaming #lore
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I generally think 1-2 weeks is a good spoiler-warning buffer period for any kind of new content. After that, ey free game. Some people take it way too far and rage at people who try to be accommodating but fall short of whoever's standards. And then certain content creators get revenge by rushing to blatantly spoiling things as fast as possible…Had to actually block a few over that recently lmao.
This should be fascinating…….
it's really easy not to spoil someone tbh. a warning at the start of your video is perfect. in game, as to avoid spoiling FC members, I just privately message the people I want to start a discussion with. some people don't seem to understand that not everyone finishes things as fast as them. hell, I was spoiled on patch day by people /shouting their realtime reactions of cutscenes in the new zone… so inconsiderate 🙁
I mean if this is about people getting mad about a vid spoiling them, honestly who cares, if you don't want to be spoiled don't be looking around online discussing the current events if you haven't done them yet, all content creators should do is just don't have a thumbnail with spoilers
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I am normally mindful around newer players about spoilers, aka I ask them which expansion they have completed to know which spoilers are safe to share.
My FC has a very strict spoiler policy. And I approve of it.
But it’s really easy. Just don’t spoil for others, unless they tell you they don’t care. You can always spoil for yourself if you don’t care about it.
I had a certain Endwalker bossfight spoiled for me but the boss itself wasn't nearly as interesting to me as the context of HOW and WHY I would have to fight them.
Still haven't gotten there but I'm looking forward to it!
Honestly, if you don't want to be spoiled just don't look it up. I still don't know what the hell game of thrones is about to a large extent and that's because I know people are jerks. Avoid the medium until you decide to watch the content it's that simple.
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For me personally, the events of the story don't matter. It's the execution that make me like the media in question. I'm mostly too genre savvy to be surprised for most things. So spoilers are not a big deal to me. How ever! I always ask if someone minds spoilers before I start talking about a story. Because while I am too savvy to be surprised by plot twists and all that, other people can be, and they would like to be. It would be unfortunate to take that from them on accident, and mean spirited to take that from them on purpose. I do however LOVE to ask people questions about what they think about a story as they are reading it, and ever to listen in and watch their reactions if I'm able.
So I’ve interested in FFXIV for I think about six years now? I think I got into it around the time the first Stormblood trailer came out. But I haven’t played very far into the free trial, for a number of reasons. But I’m still really interested in the game, so I engage with content on YouTube, Reddit, etc. all the time. So I have spoiled some important story stuff for myself. I have complicated feelings about it. On the one hand, I would have liked to have experienced a lot of this by playing the game. On the other hand, I like watching videos and reading posts and stuff about the newer expansions. I get to experience a bit of what the game is like while I wait for the opportunity to play it myself. Guess there’s a balance to be had. At the very least, I appreciate people who tag spoilers.
I was raised in a simpler time, when people were telling about what they saw in a game/a tv show/cartoon, so spoilers were an every occurrence and it wasn’t bad. On the contrary, some such spoilers actually fire up your curiosity.
That’s why I always tell people “to inject spoilers into their bodies” in order to become immune to them.
Page 606, Snape kills Dumbledor. Good times, good times.
Seriously if the story if are good, the spoiler would not matter.
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I want to shout out to the people who said nothing as I asked in party chat why Nidhogg was just a 4 man boss after fighting him the first time and then getting to The Final Steps of Faith
Just remember to label spoiler warnings properly. Wouldn't want a repeat of the Lyse video, where your warned only about Stormblood spoilers and then dropped Shadowbringers spoilers out of nowhere.
I feel like there needs to be a reverse statute of limitation on spoilers. I recall seeing a bunch of very young folks interested in the original FF7 due to remake, and having the big commonly known spoiler for the original game being thrown in their face like it doesn't matter cause "the game is over 25 years old now".
Like… EXACTLY. There are people who can legally drink now who weren't even born when the game came out. They weren't exposed to the pop culture zeitgeist of the time and it's just as rude to assume they have.
I don't care about spoilers and often data mine it to see it early but I don't share it because it matters to people. That said it gets out of hand when people are like don't even look at box art/pv videos.
I dont believe in spoilers if u don't wanna know what happens don't watch the vid till u pass it. Don't have to take away points of convo from peeps jus cuz u haven't got a chance 1 month is understandable to wait till story spoilers if I can finish msq in 1 1/2 months while I have kids,wife, animals and 45 hr+ job with only having 6-8 hours a week to play
That was a major spoiler for Harry Potter series.
Here b4 the bald one reacts to this
IMO, you've got 48-72 hours from the release of something – if you're spoiled in that time, that's on the spoiler, shame on them. Any longer, though, and the onus on avoiding spoilers is on you. Out and out spoiling stuff just for the sake of it is still a dick move, but if people want to discuss a topic related to a spoiler, they should be free to, without guilt. If you want to remain pure past 3 days, you can't expect people to accommodate you – it's nice if they do, and most will try to, but you can't take it as a given, and you can't blame others if you get casually exposed to spoilers. Consume the media quick, or don't go online until you do.
Honestly spoilers are pretty interesting. Everyone sees a spoiler in a different light. Some put it as low as, "any info on anything" as a spoiler if they personally haven't seen/read/watched/played it yet. Some people just see current patch/story/movie stuff as a spoiler. Some see a trailer as a spoiler (especially with many companies doing trailers where they basically show the premise or a scene from the end, where some might just show a starting scene or whatever).
Personally I avoid most social media (except YouTube and Twitch) in general so I tend to not get spoilt, even if it is for a movie I plan to watch in the future which has been out a while. Avoiding reviews til after I've made my own opinion (since review tend to be spoilery) has made me enjoy stuff more, even if it the content was bad or not as entertaining as I would have liked. It is good sometimes to step back and decide for yourself then let other tell or explain how to feel about things in a game/movie/media in general, else you'd might skip something you might find entertainment from, even if it is "so bad it is good".
I find that of you don't like spoilers it's your job to go hide under a rock to avoid them.
No matter how new something is, people are under no obligation to not talk about something they like because YOU don't want to know.
After I announced my return from a long hiatus, my Free Company asked me how far I was in the MSQ so they knew what was safe to chat about in the public Discord channels without spoilers. I really appreciated that.
This game has a LOT of story beats that depend on the player not knowing about them going in. I recall even SquareEnix made a joke about this in their new "Starter Guide" video series where the guide said to the new player, "Oh I can't wait for you to experience [SPOILER] or visit [SPOILER] where you join [SPOILER] to stop [SPOILER]! I don't want to spoil it for you, but it is quite the ride!"
On the topic of [VERY] old spoilers, I [finally] watched The Godfather with some family after I found none of us had seen this classic movie. That movie is referenced to death in popular media, so there was no way we were going into it unspoiled. It resulted in a very different experience, with lots of "I think we can all guess what's going to happen next" and "So THAT'S where that quote comes from!"
There's also people who take it too far and cry spoilers about the most minor things. In my FC, there was such an example not too long ago. In general, we avoid talking about the story in the FC chat, but little things that aren't story significant get discussed easily. During one of those chats, a relatively minor NPC was namedropped with no further context given when one of the sprouts began to cry 'Spoilers, spoilers'.
The NPC's name was a reference to an NPC from a previous FF game and he did not wish to know such an NPC existed before he reached that part of the story, but other than their name, no further context or information was given. Just the name that came up in a conversation. Yet the sprout took it extremely seriously, to a point where he stopped playing for like 5 days, after being told it wasn't that big a deal. That's going too far, imo. You have to avoid spoilers as best you can, but you can't walk around on eggshells all day because you might accidentally reveal some minor thing about the story.
The one and ONLY hard and fast rule in a lot of Novice Networks is "NO SPOILERS".
i'm generally hostile to spoiler culture; it seems to have poisoned my friends' ability to communicate effectively. it's infuriating to be excluded from a conversation because i haven't sunk 40 hours into a piece of media, and they go for "that thing with the guy" instead of something vague and descriptive enough to make the conversation understandable like "the betrayal" or "a powerup." there have also been occasions when they considered TRIGGER WARNINGS spoilers. friend wanted to know if Endwalker was going to smack her directly in the phobia, and other friend didn't want to confirm if it would or wouldn't because spoilers
personally, the only way to "spoil" me in a way that matters is to tell the entire dang story, but do it worse than the writers. i'm malicious and evil and have started being reciprocal about spoiler preferences – if someone doesn't respect that i prioritize ease of conversation over not sequence-breaking a story, whether by giving a vague summary or changing the topic or just asking me to leave for a moment, i won't respect their preference either. things will just come out of my mouth if they're relevant, and if it happens to be a spoiler that's a dang shame
I am literally reading the Harry Potter books for the first time, currently on The Order of the Pheonix, you could have added a spoiler warning before saying that… not cool man…
Whilst you didnt want to delve into those that can anjoy things spoiled. I think for many of them, it's the journey not the destination. That snape kills dumbledore doesn't matter as much as how it happened and what lead up to it. And indeed those oft find themself rewatching/reading the content. Whilst others are more keen on their first reaction to the event on the media. hence spoilers kills their fun.
to make a personal note, it didn't kill my fun of my first prae that I knew thancred would survive becouse I saw him in the trailers of shadowbringer.
I actually had a conversation with my brother about this recently. He is a FF11 vet and I have just recently started playing. He ended up spoiling a major fight in a later expansion by accident and apologised but I simply laughed and said "i'm not mad it's a 20 year old game." because my views of spoilers are generally that you really can't get worked up over old media. I even made a joke where I pretended to be mad and slammed my hand down to say "you RUINED the epic of gilgamesh for me. I didn't know Enkidu died!"
In contrast to this, my sister is not into gaming but likes to watch me play and often would get curious, read about the plot on a wiki or fan site and end up spoiling a brand new game I was in the middle of playing. I eventually just straight up banned her from watching me because she could not control herself and ruined so many games for me.
A lot of times when I'm in a voice chat or linkshell I'll ask if everyone is current on story, and if not, how far they are. I've even gone to saying "Have you done the level 73 dungeon" or "the level x trial"? as a gage on how far they are so I know what I can and can't say 'safely'. I also don' mind reiterating things that are brought up in the game, but easy to gloss over. The significance of the plight of the Ala Mhigans in Ul'Dah and its political ramifications as well as the pair we wind up helping in the shroud as an example. Easy to overlook on a first run… I also started in the Black Shroud, so I wasn't as familiar with Thanalan politics my first time around. Or, how impactful I found the events of the Vault because I had somewhat checked out or underestimated how important the groundwork in Coerthas would become.
There are some franchises I wouldn't have gotten into were it not for spoilers. I hate the horror genre, jump scares are the worst, so for a game like Dark Souls, I'd avoid it based on the title alone but a YouTuber I follow, Playframe, played it with a buddy of theirs, causeimdanjones, so by watching that play through I discovered a game series I like.
Going into 14 a few months ago I knew basically nothing, but once I started playing it felt like I was constantly coming across spoilers by chance. Most often it was of a character death which made me not able to really get attached to them.
Most of the time I'm the type of person that is more interested in the journey rather than the results, shortly after infinity war launch someone told me Thanos actually won in the movie, and not gonna lie, I WAS a bit upset but that didn't changed the fact that I didn't knew why or how Thanos won, so it still came as a surprise that even after Thor shoved that big ass axe in Thanos he was still able to make the snap, it was actually really funny, I when Thor delivered the blow I was like "wow, how does Thanos won after THIS?!" and right after SNAP "oh, I see"
That being said, I hate when spoilers give total context, saying the villain will win sucks but at least you're still in the dark and you can speculate, but when someone gives you full context I feel that the experience is now seriously crippled
The entire "content creators putting spoilers in their thumbnails" is why I have unsubbed from just about every Pokemon youtuber out there, as every time a new game comes out, the majority of them will have pictures of the new pokemon in their thumbnails.
I want to go into a new game completely blind, especially Pokemon since I really enjoy running Blindlockes…and you can honestly only do that one time. Once you've played the game, it's no longer "new" and you can't run it "blind". I just want to know enough from trailers to see a glimpse of what's to come (and in Pokemon's case, which version I should get). I purposely don't watch trailer analyzing videos because of that, but when I'd scroll through my inbox and see datamined pokemon or additional content about it (info posted outside of trailers) and see these new pokemon…it really took a lot of my enjoyment away.
I feel like a lot of youtubers never got the memo that if a game is new or hasn't even released yet, it's their responsibility to not put anything which can be considered a "spoiler" in their video thumbnail…especially the content creators who are able to get early copies (obviously, I'm not just talking about Pokemon at this point), or just play a game during early access.