FFXIV: Yoshi P Response to Third-Party Tools (Player Scope Controversy)

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1. They absolutely should have forseen the potential of client-side abuses but not only does the addon maker ruin it all for anyone who uses addons for a variety of accessiblity or just personal reasons but the fact they need to tell people "Don't fucking stalk people" is mad.

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2. basicly what he said in the post "we wont be fixing anything, please stop using this plugin" they will never do anything to stop a addon because that would mean they gotta stop all of them and the people who use addons and mods is at least 50% of the community and they play only because they can use them

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3. I used to play this game back in shadowbringers / endwalker days. Yoshi P has always had the same stance, "Don't use 3rd party tools, if we get a report about you using them, you will be banned" but never goes past this point. They will never use any anti cheat or anything that can detect this. So much of the community uses these tools for graphical enhancements, raid/dungeon helping, marker placement, node tracking, crafting utilitys etc. It would very much destroy the hardcore players of this game removing the ability to use these things. Many of the RP orientated people use loads of clothing and NPC mods would also be affected if they took drastic action.

   The FFXIV community is a vast and varying one, Some don't touch anything just play vanilla and are vehemently against anything of the sort, Some are OK with client side only mods like clothes, graphics etc, Some are OK with using tools like ACT or catbot for raids. But where each draws the line is different, and we all get drawn to people who share our views.

   It's also why the bot problem in this game is so bad. You may be surprised to know this is the case and are wondering, But where are all the bots? They are under the ground. They just teleport to all the quest / nodes etc. The ones you see in the world are just regular people who are doing it them self's, not usually the RTM guys, (still bad either way)

   To be honest though, I think this is probably the best approach considering the community behind this game. Make it look like you care, but don't really do anything, only take actions when absolutely necessary. Gives the players the impression they are looking in to it / working on it without messing the good thing up the community has.

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4. i already report everyone i see using plug ins/ mods.. even those who sit on ledges and bands using bard player.
   because feck this community of creepy erp'ers.

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5. They just need to fix it so its not publicly visable done, there are a lot of copycat mods out there doing the same thing just not in the public eye, they are keeping their heads down so not to get targeted.

   I cannot recall the mod name, but it has been around for a long time making logs of people and allowing you to use a whois style command to check on people, listing name changes, server moves, past FCs etc just without the alt linking this mod does, but again they could and they have a lot more long term data.

   The code was public so almost anyone with modding skills could adapt it for personal and private use, mare uses the same tech now sure they dont share it but there is nothing to stop them making a db behind peoples backs, not that they would kill their pr doing it but they can.

   I get the outrage, but the amount of mods that use the same tech now that we know about vs the ones who are doing it with private DB's I think is more of an issue. sure flag peoples attention to that this exsists but without square taking the time to shut it down even if this mod gets killed its out there now, and I rather know what mod is tracking my information so I can opt out vs all of the hidden ones doing it, that feels way more stalker like because thoes one you have no choice with.

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