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They do need to create a tab for rpers. I want to use the PF for dungeon groups to grind mid level dungeons, but know no one will look there.
Hm… So a game that pushes RP, emotes and creates a space for people to act out their avatars…punishes people for doing said things?
Getting GM jailed out of nowhere and not even having been told exactly what the offence was so I can avoid it in general, only getting a vague "You used one of the chats too much and someone reported you" is single handedly the most harrowing experience I had in FF
It seems the GM is confused themselves
Hmm…sounds like the solution to all this just make an RP tab in the party finder for those who want to do that stuff. It's not hurting anyone else doing other content. Whether Square likes it or not there will be people doing this.
It makes you wonder if that GM is a new employee considering the interactions have just been them, there's been no real enforcement for years now. Definitely no enforcement to push off Ultimate/Savage sellers off 50/60/70 Dungeons that jerk up to the very top of PF "All" tab (I would implore to report these people if people are taking time to report RP venue ads). While I find the RP ads amusing more often than not, I also think FFXIV shouldn't become Second Life in a public setting because the game isn't rated for it (legally) so in regards to public NSFW ads, I can understand, but not with >Teen RP venues/events. A GM's time would better be spent actively booting bots out in plain sight lol. Fellowship could have the ability if they add tabs to it & clean it up, but it's still essentially a public LS recruitment tool that's horribly cluttered.
I'm super curious if this escalates and if it'll be addressed by a senior member because the whole situation is just too ambiguous right now. To my knowledge we don't actually have official knowledge/proof all these reports weren't on NSFW ads other than people claims (since we weren't provided what their OG recruitment message was). Either way it's a weird situation. I just hope it's not some GM's personal dislike for RPers fueling this (where they can exploit a loophole for their own gain) because RP is huge in this game nowadays.
The red knights have been tempered by their own boredom. A new IRL Calamity draws near. Prepare yourselves. Please DO NOT look forward to it.
I am sure the next Live Letter will address these grievances.
Who hires these GMs anyway? This seems like a straightforward issue for someone who plays regularly and is part of the community.
1. This video did a pretty poor job of explaining the issue at hand.
2. This has nothing to do with RP and everything to do with spamming and a little bit of patience and research would have revealed that.
3. It's pretty sad that we'll get 5 videos bashing SE for this and no follow up where anyone admits that they jumped the gun and overreacted before getting all the details.
But dont let the facts get in the way of some good ol' fake outrage. Enjoy it while it lasts 😁
Content is SE generated content. Player generated content is not considered content.
Thing people need to watch for in TOS and rules is are they enforcing "content" or "Content" because capitol C content would be a defined term most likely meaning ingame systems and not player created. I havent read over the TOS but this topic does bring up a good point. Who is in the wrong? Its up to the TOS honestly.
I don’t really run savage or extreme content so you’re telling me the only thing I’ve used pf for is now against imaginary ToS?
I'm glad to see you guys sticking up for the little guy watching this video made me happy to be a subscriber keep it up
FF series was based off of D&D how could RP not be considered "content"?
Why does the other tab even bother people if you dont use it hardly unless you want to go to the parties people throw etc.
Can u all stop forgetting this game have minors, and yes 16 years old ARE Minors. Some of this RP are even charging Gill and others RL money.
RP is in the title… mmo RPg
There are so many people complaining about content sellers to justify what they're doing. Just because someone else is doing something doesn't mean what you're doing isn't wrong. I understand that it's upsetting but, trying to shift blame to something else then blast the company isn't cool. While I agree RP should be cool, there are far too many that solicit ERP at their 'events'. Like, it's a 14+ game, and seeing advertisements of 18+ is standard practice. If you don't see the problem, I don't know what to say.
I love role-playing its my favorite thing about MMORPG'S
If you can make one of the focuses in a FC Role Playing, than Role Playing is content.
SE don't understand what content and other means.
They need to send their people back to English classes.
RPers are in the right here, and SE is not.
Surprised you guyz havent talked about the terrible process that is the gm system how when you ask for info on what you did they dont give you anything so you are basically trapped the whole time playing of doing the same thing you did to get a gms attention in the first place even if its you asking for what YOU yourself said instead of them saying to read the tos which is such a lazy form of policing in this game.
Fellowships have no chat or realistic social methods.
I fully support clearing up the PF, however, I feel like the most violent offenders are the gear selling and content clearing offers under the 50/60/70 roulette. There are always at least 5 up, 24/7 on Levi.
so Chris is bad at both typing and reading 😀
hmm? i got rp players and im harley quinn and do batman rp what the hell?
what about gil sellers listing to sell hard fights in daily roul or party finder i wonder really
so rmt is cool in roulettes crafting is cool in other but rp is a no fly zone?
It turned out that the GM had got it wrong, the actual stance was clarified, you can use PF for it as long as the content of the PF post doesn't violate ToS. People had these warnings on their account reversed. So you guys ended up being right on this one, which is fortunate. Proof that people are human, even GM's and I guess the positive to take away from it is that they will correct errors instead of doubling down on them. I am glad at least that this was handled respectfully by the GM's and the RP community. People make mistakes and it's a question of what you do about it.
heres one problem i see with the whole "its on the lodestone" thing, console players are extremely unlikely to bother with it.
The second half of the video is hilarious because it reminded of this FC i was in where this player likes to kidnap Dwarfs strip them naked and force them into their house it was freaky but i understand i love kingdom hearts and role play as Xehanort convincing people to be one of 13th vessel lol
Maybe they should divert their manpower and resources to combing out mining/gathering bot users instead.