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A nice thought, but knowing the XIV community as a whole, they resent Vana’Diel with the passion of a thousand thousand suns.
"Vana'diel wouldn't fit lore wise! It woupdnt make sense!"
So Noctie dimention hopping in makes sense?
You mean an entire 24 man raid for Shafowbringers beint literally just a NIER cameo made sense? (niet is mid af, btw)
Literally over half of FFXIV is just cameos from mostly superior games to give the illusion you have a lot of content, when in reality FFXIV has barely any original content within.
I've played XI and I have to say having it as a shard is totally doable. The gods made men huh, well we know that the 12 are not primals so it's not hard to believe that they are transendant and move between source and shard. With that being said, it's easy that in 12000ish years that the lore of Vana Diel would be that they made mankind. It's a who came first; the chicken or the egg? Kind of thing. I say bring them together.
So… you know the problem we have that new players HAVE to go through 10 years of content to get to current content? Why not just drop Vana Diel as a new starting point that can jump straight into said expansions new raids and things? Give players a “starting point” option when they start the game with a quick lore note before they start. Vana Diel option could be the quicker picker upper option to play with friends and level synced for players that have played for years and years so it’s not lost content to them also. The “side quests” level synced /revamp could be the way to include old players too. There is plenty of FFXI content that can be developed to add for those players that chose to start there too. It’s kind of a win win if you ask me.
I loved XI but I've never really thought there was a way to tie the two games together at all. I will say having it be a shard with a nod to XI understanding that XIV does change things up when they reference other games could work. I would worry it will make the XI diehards upset because things aren't exactly the same but for me, loving XI but having moved on from it, I would most likely enjoy it.
I would love the gearing leveling system FF11 has and to be implemented in FF14. Gearing in FF14 is terrible and sad that all these gear designs that these devs create become garbage like Ultimate weapons, for example. They are great and BiS for a while but become glam afterward, it would be nice to level those weapons to current lv and item lv.
But would be nice to see skillchains and magic burst in FF14 as for the world of Vana'diel would be cool but since both lore will contradict each other, it will be nice if Etheirys is a Vana'diel copy from the universal shard Vana'diel's lore has.
Shantotto did travel to different universes of Vana'diel, and some of these Vana'diel's did had different names. Maybe Etheirys could be that universe and have the Goddess Altana and Twilight god Promathia be real gods of Etheirys since they do mention dynamis, which should lead into a godly realm they still lack of understanding.
Also, lore wise, Iroha is canon and still in Etheirys. They need to make a new collab with FF11 as bringing in new FF11 npc's that take Iroha back to Vana'diel or something. Idk they but most FF11 players like me want something implemented in FF14 and would be nice to have the new zones like the new world had a resemblance to FF11 like the Sanctuary of Zitah or Valkrum dunes, selbina but even lore on the minions is enough lore for them bring the old races names into play of a new story arc.
unless they bring vana'diel in as a shard, playable to itself as 11 is, that'd be cool there could be a small tie in where the player has the option to visit but while there they would be a different version. IE my bunboi zermit would be back to their mithra form zermit while on that shard and they can stay separate games but attached by a thread of lore?
it could be the 11th shard, completely isolated into itself
Theres already been XI characters that have shown up in Eorzea, ofc you can use vanadiel, and it doesn't have to be eureka like, eureka was a style of content, not actually ffxi. Just make it be its own expansion, with its own unique types of content that isn't the same copy paste structure and it can work. Its pretty strange to say vanadiel can't be in this game with everything we've done already.
True we haven't seen a crossover event in EW. Yet. What's happening in June? 😀
The 2nd least played FF being XI is such a dumb take. It was the most profitable for its time and still makes enough money to justify the servers being on after all these years.