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i really do wish for u to review the song from ffx hd Challenge, that song is fking intense.
The other funny thing with this theme there is a 3rd version. "Forbidden Archives (Ink Long Dry)" Piano. Comparing the two it feels more lively and somewhat funky in a way. Plus the reasoning it is like that is due to the civilisation that used to live in Dravania (Sharlyan Scholars) eventually abandoned the area leaving behind the library itself as well as what remains of the settlement.
The 3rd version however plays during specific moments of the story when you visit the City, Old Sharlyan which takes place 3 expansions after Ink Long Dry (Normal/Hard). If you are able to squeeze it in, i'd like to see your reaction to that piece as this is still fresh in the mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vIblyCamAc&t=12s
You kind of nailed the vibe with this one. It's trying to be unwelcoming. It's a place that's been sealed away for decades and it's grandeur is long gone, replaced by a haunted legacy.
When you brought up Mortal Instants, I remembered some thoughts I had on that reaction but never shared. I think it and tracks sharing its motifs tend to get overhyped by fans. Don't get me wrong, it's one of my favorite tracks in the game, but what makes it good is the associated context of 300+ hours of story. And sometimes it's easy to forget that someone without that context isn't going to have the same appreciation when purely listening to the music.
Quite like the hard version but the original grinds my ears especially as it's popular in deep dungeons, bottom of the pack
I love this theme, the chaotic first theme fits well with the library being overrun by the local wildlife I think. Second is is very melodic, I mean… piano, and more sinister as the library is cleaned by the player the first time, suddenly stuff from the (state underfunded yet mandatory) forbidden sector of the library start to wreak havoc inside there.
Not sure if the dungeon theme for The Burn is on your list, but thats another dungeon theme I come back to a lot
I am so glad you finally got to react to these! But I'm sad you didn't get to react to the live version too.
This is one of my favorite dungeon themes in the entire game. I love when I get this in daily roulette ❤
I remember my first time running Gubal and the music starting and I immediately got chills, it really felt like the song was fighting itself in attempting to make a coherant song, almost like the library is now suddenly needing to prepare itself for its brand new guests that they havent had in so long
In Hard mode, it felt like the library was welcoming you back, guiding you to look for the new knowledge you were seeking
Oh hey Bibliophobia, a track my FC uses in our group house (or at least did idr if we've swapped it out). We like to keep calmer music in our FC house lol. Also Bibliophobia with its strings and piano always remind me of Yoko Shimomura's work on the KH series.
I think the other one you were thinking of may have been Lost City of Amdapoor. That one also had a normal and hard mode and I think you've listened to them both?
Man, I know not how many times I've been through the normal version of the dungeon but I had NO idea it sounded that 'broken'. Yet had you made me listen to it without context I would likely have been able to recognize it as Great Gubal.
The Hard one really feels like it was ripped right out of Kindom Hearts to me.
I'm glad you got to hear this one. I know the first version is a little chaotic, but ya there is context that you are missing. For me its one of those songs that i do like because its so unique. It totally fits in with the story and setting.
This was before the "incident" with Soken happened, so people were already used to show footage with the songs to induce a mood I guess, but in the expansion after this some people actually uploaded songs that were from exclusive savage difficulty more fights without footage because they hadn't been able to get there, and Soken got annoyed about it (it was on the last phase of Dancing Mad actually), so people understood that it's kinda expected as a courtesy to show that you're actually putting in the effort to get there and actually run through the content. Those days in the recent expansions Square Enix has also cracked down regularly on uploads of music especially the most recent ones not yet available on spotify, so including gameplay into it is even more of a requirement now.
One of my favorite tracks. Instantly fell in love with it when I played this dungeon for the first time. I always have it on in my FC house's jukebox playlist.
Hey Jessie!
A good way to think of the hard versions of dungeons are the second visit to them so in this instance it was a sealed library and the second pass was after we'd cleared out a lot of the dark entities within
Oh no! The Boy and The Dragon Gay was there
Dang. You got some OLD ff14 footage for great gubal library and its hard version. So many actions and animations veterans can see that we wish we still had. RIP all those DoTs, ground effects, and defensive abilities
The hard mode theme is called "Bibliophobia"
oldie but goodie, it's a dungeon so not terribly complex and loops quickly but always makes me smile when i hear it
This dungeon is where I realized it was a mistake to play FF14 without the music on.
Never really noticed this song being that good even when I've ran the dungeon dozens of times, the chorus was amazing but it was sparse throughout
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Imagine if you will, a city fallen into disrepair after it was abandoned by the scholars who inhabited it 10 years ago within a single night. You come here in search of Matoya, your friend's master and the keeper of the secrets left behind in the hurry. The information you require from her is held in a tome, hidden in the center of a library full of familiars and mammets (mechanical creations fueled by magic) left there to guard it, as well as magical beings who somehow made their way inside or were created by dangerous tomes, left unatended for too long.
You make your through the chaos, smashing the guards left and right to get to your goal on this surreal adventure. And after that, you leave in hopes to never see the place again, trusting that Matoya and your friends did well in creating replacements for the guards you "walloped".
Alas, they did not, as you find out at a later point in time and you have to go through the place again to clean up the bigger mess you caused (hard version). A common occurance on your travels so far. You're long used to cleaning up after your prior adventures, so you make quick work of what you find. Somehow, traversing these halls is way less unsettling the second time around, the enemies something you understand, rather than sprung from a scribe's nightmares. Perhaps it is the different path you take this time. Or you might just have gotten used to the insanity that is the Sharlayan way of hiding forbidden knowledge.
I really like the weirdness of Ink Long Dry
As a player I always feel weird with the slow, chill pieces or when they just break out into jazz. I'm not sure it would be quite right to call it 'immersion breaking' but it's an unexpected style or tone when they deviate from the standard formula. Conflicted is probably a good word for it. I don't have a solid reason to hate it but it's not like I embrace it as a rule, even if most music in FF14 is good. EDIT: This is the context of dungeon or battle music.
There's a third version of this song from Endwalker and it's fabulous! Very lively
If you're itchin' for overworld, then I'd recommend 'Divine Words' or 'The Nautlus Knoweth'. Those are both super chill and pleasant to listen. I'd also maybe selfishly recommend 'The Labrynth'. I don't think it's a popular one, but I like it.
I've been waiting for this one. As a lover of jazz this really surprised me when it first came up.
These are dungeon themes, but whenever you listen to zone or city themes, they often have a Day / Night version. So when those start coming in I'd recommend listening to both. I think you'd lose something if you came back to listen to a Night theme 4 months after a Day version. Though the Night themes are pretty soft and quiet, so that might be a weird note to end on in a video 😛
When you did the Academia Anyder jazzy dungeon song I was thinking this would be another good review.
I feel like the way that the hard mode one is less chaotic makes sense from the perspective of your character. The regular version is your character's first time visiting this spooky mysterious place. The hard mode version is your character returning to the place, and it's still foreboding but it's less of an unfamiliar unknown place.
Ah the great Google library.
I would have never thought of asking for this song honestly. Yeah it's pretty unique in its own way but it never struck me as being noteworthy to listen outside of its intended purpose (IE? while being in that dungeon). Probably the fact that this game has so many outstanding songs also makes iot hard for this one just has no chances to stand out though.
The vibe I get from Ink Long Dry is a turn of the century luxury liner reappeared as a ghost ship and you snuck into the first class lounge because you heard music playing. I do think it works for the setting but it's almost TOO broken and freeform even for an ancient haunted library. I do appreciate that the hard version unexpectedly gets the "fixed" version on the theme.
Great Gubally Moobally!
Great Gubal Library is a huge Library that has been abandoned for decades as the schors who built it went into exodus for fear of invasion. It was left guarded only by enchanted books and ink pots and owl and frog familiars.
The first version has you head into the basement while the hard version has you going upstairs to a much more well kept area thats more brightly lit and cleaner
Another term for this sort of chaotic, avant-garde style jazz is "free jazz."
One of my longtime favorites since heavensward ❤ I always have ink long dry and bibliophilia off and on in my house in game. It's just so damn chill.
FFXIV is such a good 'vibe' game, just going around and chilling in your favorite areas enjoying the atmosphere and music. I've queued up for specific dungeons just because I want to hear certain songs! Playing the game, you get to enjoy all the little themes that you wouldn't really dedicate a video to, or sit down and watch on their own. A few of the FATE themes, events, etc… I nearly cried when I heard the Firmament theme for the first time!
Normal mode always felt like ambience to set the mood, like the feeling of searching for some spooky old discordant piano in a different room somewhere and thinking "will i even find someone playing when i get there." Very unsettling and interesting, but I definitely prefer hard mode as a song.
Just finished Heavensward 3.0 yesterday, perfect timing!
If you enjoyed the normal/ hard mode comparison here, please check out the Sohm Al theme (Slumber Eternal) and hard theme (Quicksand) too!
I really love Ink Long Dry because it's like the closest thing FF has to Freeform Jazz, it's like really challenging to follow, it's bizarre and mysterious a lot like the library that you're descending into, it feels like as you're passing by all these books it's constantly butting in with different vibes like different genres of said books. It's definitely one of the more experimental songs in FF, I personally love it a lot but it's kind of divisive I think.
from what i gather is that its supposed to be dissonant and unsettling, whereas the second one is less dissonant and unsetteling but there is a feeling of more specific evil
I did this dungeon on release with Heavensward in 2015 and it still continues to be one of my favorite dungeon themes to this day. An old library abandoned and riddled with ancient forbidden texts, overrun with monsters and demons for you to clear your way in search of a specific text to aid you on your journey. The theme of this is something I've always wanted to get lost in and it's something that the moment I hear that sound I remember every out of place book on the walls and every corner and dim light; it's a magical place I wish we spent more time in rather than a dungeon we slipped through for story progression. Thank you for listening, I hope more people take the time to send dungeon music!
If I could pick a pair for you to do someday it would be Crimson Sunrise and Crimson Rise; one being a city locale theme and the other being an arrangement of it for a hardcore dungeon. I would honestly just love to see you do a compilation of comparing FFXIV's leitmotifs and if you think it was handled well or not someday — maybe after you complete the world record FFXIV music library. 😂
Normal mode is “Ink Long Dry” the Hard mode version is called “Biblophobia”
Yes, weird, lol. The speed is drifting all along.
There are some heavily piano theme of fields (for night scenes, to differ from the day ones). Very calm and beautiful.
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