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BALDICANTE I SUMMON THEE
Shoutout to Jesse's perfect guitar riff/cat meow at 6:17
So with Forged in Crimson, it was composed by a longstanding fan of the series known on Youtube as Hyadain. There are 2 (and a half?) versions of FFIV's Four Fiends in XIV, and Soken wanted to do something different, to represent the boss Rubicante, embodying fire, specifically. Hyadain had a very famous remix of Four Fiends on youtube waaaaaay back somewhere around 2008 and it became an iconic Weird Al style parody of the original. Forged in Crimson takes that very distinct flavor of the song and pumps it up to 11, to the point where Hyadain's own original was sampled for the string intro in the first five seconds. Was really incredible to see someone who had just been a fan of the series and Nobuo for such a long time get represented in an official capacity in XIV
Play the Resident evil 4 og and remake mate
There's a more true to the original version in FF14, when you fight Barbariccia (the trial boss you fight in the patch before this one). It's a more true-to-life version that Soken actually took bits from the original and inserted them into the track, a little homage to the original. I'm a huge FF4 fan, but I think Soken's version (not Forged in Crimson) is better – it just sounds more… full.
FF4: The Four Fiends are the underbosses of the main antagonist of FF4. They are Scarmiglione, Cagnazzo, Barbariccia, and Rubicante. There are two main Boss themes that appear in FF4, with the Four Fiends + some other bosses getting Battle with the Four Fiends, and the end boss has his own theme music as well.
FF14 takes inspiration from the other games and sometimes uses characters from those games in FF14 with their own twist. This is a boss battle against Rubicante, who is the strongest of the Four Fiends.
I understand that this music was taken from a parody that was created years ago of the main theme. The composer of FF XIV valued said theme and remastered it.
Parody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8vz186pjY0&ab_channel=FRUITYBUMBUM
You'd have a field day with most of IV's music and subsequent remixes. The regular boss theme "Battle 2" is a standout.
SCARMILOGNE!
I didn't realize the lyrics were in English at first in the xiv version. Should look up a video with them.
No matter how many times I do this fight I'm still rocking to this song!
HI3rd music… i will keep saying it..
5:08 Jesse made the exact same face I did when I heard that part 🤣
Torn from the Heavens is a Soken original and that's a banger
The lyrics for this song are also brutal as FUCK.
"In the Darkness be, by fear, consumed.
Hearts turn cold where naught ever blooms."
Hyadain and Tokita REALLY knocked it out of the park with this one.
Once again shades well earned!
I summon ye baldicante!
I assume the difference in title is due to the vocals being put in with the choirs. Also I completely agree with your thoughts on the Uematsu/Soken situation. Uematsu remains
theFinal Fantasy composer and Soken, aside from make wonderful original songs, is essentially juet bringing the older themes into how they were likely originally thought to sound like if that makes sense.When you brought up Clash on the Big Bridge possibly being inspired by Battle With the Four Fiends, I thought back and curiously the first time you fight one of the Four Fiends in FF4 actually is on a bridge. There probably isn't actual connection, but it sure is an interesting coincidence!
There is another version of Battle with the Four Fiends in FFXIV for an earlier endwalker trial which is a bit closer to the original, and also "Voidcast Savior" from the current patch which uses the same motif.
For the record, the opening lyrics of the song go:
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Fears rise, blades fall
His void calls
Fires blaze, waters rage
Gods above are deaf now to your cries (deaf now to your cries)
Earthen scourge, gale winds surge
Look within and seek your own salvation
Do you claim to have the strength to brave the flames of battle, conquest, death, annihilation
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The somehow only manage to get MORE RAW over time, and this is probably the reason why this is my favorite so far of this particular expansion, at least out of the story themes. It has such a religious fanaticism and intensity to it. This is a guy whose confidence is not in his ability to kill you, but that you will simply fail, because no matter what, his boss is THE GUY, and nothing will convince him otherwise, and this tune more than won me over on that. It's so feverous and intense, pun lovingly intended!
Now go play FF4 😊 FF4 was the first video game I ever played. I was 4 years old and my daycare had a copy of FF2 on SNES 😀
yee this track is awesome
it's a different title because a different remix of the original came before this one.
it's impossible to listen to this and drive to work under 60mph
I see a bunch of people have mentioned the Hyadain origin, but it also bears noting the actual enemy you're fighting in the game. There are, of course, "Four Fiends" who serve as major boss fights in both FF4 and FF14. Hyadain's "Forged in Crimson" is used in FF14 as a variation of "Battle With The Four Fiends" specifically for Rubicante. It not only sets him apart from the other three Fiends, but serves to make the fight extra hype when you get to him last and those familiar beats hit but with a more modern, bombastic touch.
There are actually three other versions of the song made for each of the other Fiends in FF14.
Just a fun fact about the song. People have already told you who arranged and wrote the lyrics but amusingly that in Forged in Crimson has the fiends you fight as part of the lyrics in the order you fight them in (Earth, Wind, Water, Fire) and in the meme song it's the same (Earth, Water, Wind, Fire), If you want the meme song, with a better sound quality given the age of the original, you can see it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21RFBPoOTug .
There is actually a large joke/amazing story about this song known as the four fiends. A parody was made 15+ years ago of the original song by a creator named Hyadain and Soken actuay reached out to them for aiding in the creation of this masterpiece.
The original video i could find on youtube was at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1keUIXDa4EE
and the more well known version by fruity bum bum ( 2.6 million views posted over 15 years ago) at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8vz186pjY0
needless to say i was laughing incredibly hard during my 1st time encountering this fight as i heard very different lyrics in my head, and now they are cannon to me.
Different name as there are multiple "remixes" of four fiends in ffxiv currently. Forged in Crimson is probably the most liked one
As I've said in comments before, XIV is a themepark MMO. Lots of "OH! I KNOW WHAT THIS IS FROM" references in XIV's own way. Different story, same reference, etc. Usually individual patches/expansions will follow a specific Final Fantasy for references (Exdeath/FF5, Kefka/FF6, Chaos/FF1 from Stormblood's big raids for example), and Endwalker's Trial fights were based on the Four Lords (with some dungeons in Endwalker having them as well), so yes, it's the same song, but all 3 versions that are boss music in XIV have their own touch to them. 😛 Would love to hear you react to the Golbez one.
Leave it to someone being not focused on actually doing mechanics to notice that the rocks in the background during his fire-mechanics are actually statues :'D Took me and my buddies quite a while to notice since we were otherwise pre-occupied.
So Forged in Crimson is a fascinating case, imo. It actually wasn't done by Soken (at least not entirely) but was worked on by Hyadain (spelling? I'm bad with stuff like that) known for meme remixes of various video game songs that have stuff like Mario and Bowser competing for Peache's affection (with an exasperated Peach) with one of their biggest videos being a remix of Battle With the Archfiends from 4.
I'm sure Soken would feel honored even by being compared to Uematsu. Hopefully both of them will continue creating art for many years to come.
This is by far my favorite trial song from ew so far with voidcast dais a close 2nd. I love riding my fire cat mount all over the place and vibing
I remember wanting to recommend these to you! 14 has 2 more renditions of this exact song to I wonder if we can get a reaction to those as well?
Love your content ❤
Possibly the best OST for a boss track this expansion imo, I love the pandaemonium sound tracks and also Endcaller but this just hits too differently
Ah, Rubicante, the leg-endary fiend and workout warrior. Never skips leg day. The perfect heel. When you fight him in the original is peak gamming.
Battle with the Four Fiends is probably in my Top 10 FF songs of all time. I LOVE every iteration of it in the ffiv game and remasters. In XIV however, we have this song in 3 different versions and all 3 of them were, imo, a letdown. I don't think the first and last version are bad – just not on par with the original. Forged in crimson however – the 2nd iteration in XIV – gives me headaches. I hate it so so much. I cannot prog this fight for long