This is the full version with 50 minutes of conversation.
If you want to watch the 15 min. summary, it’s right here: https://youtu.be/4hl-x7cbr_g
東京ゲームショウ2021オンライン ファミ通Presents「RPGの魅力と可能性 ～坂口博信 × 吉田直樹 FFXIV
“Tokyo Game Show2021 Online, Famitsu Presents The Appeals and Possibilities of RPGs” held on October 2nd.
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