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Like most things , do you really need? probably not but sure it makes it easier to play especially with a million skills like there is in FFXIV
I bought a razr naga pro after a series of poor performing logitech g600 series mice. They increase in number of buttons took a solid week of practice to get accustomed to but afterwards i found myself performing better, dropping weaves less often, and overall not having to bind so many wierd combinations. Before i had normal, shift, ctrl, and alt + now its all normal ctrl and shift. If you take the dive, spend 15 or 30 min a day running stone sky sea. Once you can reliably down pass the fight try not looking while doing it. Then turn of your hud and do it. If you can clear with your hud off you know youre set and you can all but instinctually react to whatever is happening.
IS a MMO mouse helpful? yes
Do you NEED one? no
to me it comes down to personal playstyle and what content you do in the game.
i'd say that outside of minmaxing for endgame raids, it doesn't matter how you set your hotbars, or how you activate your skills.
i tried a mouse with 9 thumb buttons, and i constantly kept fatfingering skills. the buttons were just too small and close to each others for me.
in the end i returned to my normal 2 button mouse and am happy with it till today.
what i did though was change those buttons to use shift and control, so that i can switch between hotbars with the thumb, while still using the number row to choose individual skills, that's more than enough for me
In fact, you can config your game Setup to match perfectly to the razor mouse-button layout. i did it in a way that gives me visual feedback, so i know every time on wich button is a certain skill. use the 4×3-layout and config the razor buttons like "1, 2,3,4 – cut
5,6.7,8- cut
9, 0, ß, ´ – cut
and done .
hope that was understandable and helps som1 :3
I use the logitech G600 because it has the extra button on the right I have bound to ALT, I'd suggest buttons 10,11,12 bound to spells/action with a cooldown as they're the more ackward ones to get to
I would recommend the Corsair scimitar. It's comfortable, you can move the 1-12 numpad for smaller or larger hands which is great and it has plenty of software DPI and RGB options. It took a week or two to get used to, I was a clicker at first. After some time it became natural. Luckily FF has great UI options without the need for plugins. I use 3, 3×4 hotbars using 1-12, shift+1-12 and ctrl+1-12. I couldn't play the game without it.
MMO mouses are a waste of money IMO. You only really need a mouse with 2 (at the very least 1) button(s) on the side so you can change them to modifier keys. This allows you to keybind 30+ keys easily with shift and alt/ctrl as a modifier on the side of the mouse. With mine, my thumb sits right on top of the mouse button so it's almost seamless, same with shift on the keyboard.
pro tip: Use A and D for strafing and don't bother with keyboard turning. Use mouse to turn. This gives you 2 extra keys (Q and E) that are easy to reach.
Do you need fancy gaming mouse? Probably not. But having mouse with extra button on the side that can be used as ctrl/shift will be a life changer.
I use Logitech g502
I also use the Razer Naga but its the only available Left handed edition and i totaly loving it.
Been playing on controller since Day 1!
Yes indeed, while you don't NEED a MMO mouse, it makes a world of a difference with no just MMOs but for just about any game you would play. While I use one from Logitech, I would recommend getting the Razer mouse that has interchangeable parts. So you can swap out the MMO function with one that is good for MOBA games or if you don't want any side buttons at all.
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I use a razer naga and have 3 rows of hotkeys set on it with just holding alt or shift. only a few skills arent on it like limit break so i dont accidentally hit it.
I use the Razer Naga and the Tartarus. Because the Tartarus has a D-pad with 8 directional inputs that are re-assignable through Razer's software I reassign up, down, left, and right to be Cntrl, Cntrl+Alt, Alt, Cntrl+Shft. Then, in FFXIV, you assign the corresponding hotkey and number assignment to the hot bars. With just my 2 thumbs I can press 48 keys for skills. It only took about 2 weeks of duty roulette to get used to it and re-memorize the rotations. Now that I have done this, I can't ever go back since it saves my hands and frees up the ability to move 24/7.
Plural for mouse is mice.
I love my Logitech g600. I bought some backups before the price shot up, but I'm need to look for an alternative before i run out of them.
My PS5 controller on PC says a mouse is not necessary unless I'm using Dalamud to click around menus.
Need is such a strong word, but it definitely can be useful. I had a Logitech for years, and when that died I moved to a Reddragon (just due to cost). I was mostly just using it for quality of life, mapping things like sprint, mount, etc. When I started leveling the Healer line, I mapped the party selection to my buttons, and it was a game changer. Hit 1 and start attacking the mob. Tank needs heals? Hit 2, toss some heals, hit 1 and go back to attacking. Someone is in the boonies and not being reached by my AoEs? Hit the party number for the boonie ranged, toss a heal, go back to attacking. So much faster and easier to just hit the party number with my thumb while still on my mouse than to click-to-select them (which was my previous method).
For me, it’s impossible to play without a MMO, mouse, rather use a controller than just the keyboard
And here's me, playing WHM on my old Xbox 360 Controller…
I switched to an MMO mouse a few months into 14, and while I was lucky enough to get a decent one first try, replacing it after awhile was definitely a journey in discovering all the little things that could make an MMO mouse infuriating to use. Part of the problem was that I have a very thin area that I can use as a mouse pad, so I'm constantly picking it up to recenter it. So when I got a mouse where the buttons were a bit too easily pressed, I would keep accidentally pressing a button when I just meant to lift up my mouse. Then I got one where the keys were too far back on the mouse, and it meant that I had to curl my hand uncomfortably to reach them.
It took about 3-4 tries to get a good one. A good key placement where the thumb can rest naturally, a little lip beneath the buttons that can be used to help grip it with the thumb without hitting keys accidentally, and keys that are spaced and molded just right so that they're all distinct enough that you can quickly figure out what's what just by touch, while still being close together enough to comfortably to reach every key.
For anyone using an MMO mouse, I always recommend changing your hotbars to 3×4. This allows your hotbars to visually represent where they'll be on your mouse, making the muscle memory sink in faster. This also allows you to put your Alt, Shift, and Ctrl hotbars next to each other in the same style.
Redragon M913 is a good budget mouse with the full 12 keypad on the side. I've used it for 4 years now and its performed quite well.
couldn't imagine using a different style for any MMO anymore.
As someone who struggle to not mess up skill rotation and while not looking too much on hotbars, it's very helpful. My brother gave me one after he bought portable console. Twas hard to adjust, now i'm comfortable playing with it and able to familiarize my skill rotations.
For sprouts or people who go from controller to K+M, it's probably the best purchase to do if you want to focus on MMOs (especially FF, 'cause you can have a clean UI with 3×4 hotbars) BUT for people like me who can memorize their rotation with shortcuts already with any random (or not so random) keybinds they got for years, it's hard… like HARD-HARD…
I purchased a Corsair Scimitar last week and the mouse seems nice. No problems when I was just scrolling around or playing some ARAM games on LoL to test it. So, I jumped into FF, went to a new layout, finished my new clean(er) UI, did all keybinds from scratch to 1-12 / shift+1-12 etc. and tried to do some casual stuff. Like some FATEs.
Even with my main job (PLD), it felt like when you try to draw with your weak hand! xD
My muscle memory just SLAPPED me in the face even for the most basic rotations…
If I stop for some months, 'cause now it's pretty much dead period 'til the next expansion anyway, I may consider coming back with the MMO mouse. I think this way it COULD work. Especially if they change some rotations anyway.
I'd say you dont need one. I play on pc with a controller because i have carpal tunnel. Mouse and keyboard hurt way too bad for me
I used the Corsair Scimitar for years, but it has next to no curve and the buttons are all flat without distinction. I eventually found it caused extreme pain in my index finger knuckle after long sessions due to subconciously holding my finger off the left click as it is so sensitive to click. I changed to the Naga Razor and due to the far better natural curve and sturdier clicking mechanism it is far superior in that sense. The side mouse button pad has really well defined button seperation too so it is way easier to use the third row of buttons without misclicking (on the Corsair they all feel the same under your thumb). I liked the Corsair, but after using Naga I would never recommend it over the Naga because of my personal experience. Each to their own, but I thought I would share in case someone reads this interested in trying a MMO mouse for the first time, somethings to consider.
MMO mice are great when you have a 10 key less keyboard as well, when you need to input numbers without a NUMpad
I'm a controller player for FFXIV but I used a Naga back in the day for Wrath and Cata. The value that thing brought to my gameplay was high. I loved it.
One I have since 2019 is the Redragon Impact M908. It's a great option for those who live in America and can't afford most hardware accessories due to currency conversion.
Real pros play with a hitbox. 😉
Thanks for the helpful and insightful video! Your English is great, by the way. Also, I saw one other person mention it, but in English, the plural of Mouse is Mice. Don't ask me why, it doesn't really apply anywhere else lol.
U dont need an MMO Mouse to get to the purple, Pink, Oranges and even golds. Seen enough people "Clicking"
The plural for (computer) mouse is mouses. The plural for the rodent is mice.