The creativity and community in FFXIV constantly amazes me and is one of the reasons I am so much happier in Eorzea than in Azeroth. Tried something a little more serious today. Let me know your thoughts on how to build a better community in FFXIV and WoW down below!
I think Yoshi-P and his team do a really wonderful job providing different ways for players to co-exist and engage with one another in game regardless of playstyle. WoW on the other hand feels like everything just pushes people toward raiding & dungeons with everything else just there to support it.
Sources:
Archipel – https://youtu.be/emFem0PJdd0
Asmongold TV – https://youtu.be/YEMMpfHYMtI
Intended for educational purposes.
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It's simple, really. Wow needs to have more non-combat oriented systems. Housing, crafting that actually matters…jumping puzzles, and mini-games that are not these whole complex systems…What makes the Gold Saucer so great in FF14 is that it allows for different levels of investment, you can go hardcore in Triple Triad, majhong, or Chocobo racing, but there are also the casual JACTA, the mini and mega cacpots, and they are all united by the same currency…Unless Wow starts thinking about these activities and build them as a part of the core experience, not mandatory, but core, they won't succeed and will just add yet another system here and there like pet battles that feel just like that, another system.
I quit wow for ff14 like a month ago so all ur vidoes rlly speak to me and I feel like its becoming my new favorite channel ever. So pls keep up the amezing work, we all love you<3
Yoshi P is honestly one of the most inspirational game developers I've ever had the pleasure of hearing speak about video games. If there is anyone to look up to….
That was really well done. I’ve never even seen that first interview before so I was glad for the extra Yoshi P knowledge. I’ve also noticed that many of the new FFXIV players who recently came over from WoW seem to be the most shocked about things in FFXIV that AREN’T simply raiding or PVP like the Gold Saucer, character housing, and various forms of RP. Having played many other MMOs I still find that shocking because those things exist in all the other games I’ve played. I kind of wonder if I could never get into WoW because perhaps those sorts of things were missing or inadequate but I honestly never got far enough into the game to say despite trying several times to do so. Coming from comparatively newer games like SWTOR, ESO, GW2, PSO2, and FFXIV I just found WoW really hard to get into because there weren’t people around to help or give advice which to me is a staple of the MMO experience as if you’re not going to interact with strangers then it’s not really an MMO but just another online group game with a really boring single player mode…oddly enough, kinda like a Call of Duty game.
This is beautiful man, thank you. My only advice is, please pace yourself. Last thing we want is for you to get burned out. Take care of yourself.
Devs to Community and Community back to Devs. Its a relationship. FF14 is still consistantly building on the relationship while Blizz has already forgotten about how important the relationship is. One builds on your emotion, the other just aims at your wallet.
Which one of you bastards is cutting onions…
We worship YoshiP for reasons.
Its not perfect game or perfect dev or anything. Its like watchin people that passionate about his work and legacy. Honestly its inspiring.
The only community building I've seen in WoW is the RP community(which to give credit where due was easier in WoW than FF14 because of official dedicated RP servers), and even that one, while I overall thoroughly enjoyed it and made lots of friends from, was plagued with toxicity.
The RP server I played on was home to a bunch of fanatic Sylvanas simps who tried to police everyone else's RP by bullying everyone who's roleplay concepts they didn't agree with out of the RP scene. Worst part was that since they acted like angels on the official forums, the community managers(who never bothered to check up on their ingame behavior) had their back.
YoshiP's humility, man… He just feels so genuine and earnest about what he says.
that man is a national treasure, japan better keep him safe!
The devs actually visiting players houses during the pandemic was more than anything blizzard did
make a yoshi-p worship compilation
bruh this is the most emotional one you ever made… can fele the magic of the community of ffxiv
Best one yet
I think the one thing that could have been done in the video would have been to try and find a video talking about the community from one of the older lead devs of WoW (if any footage exists, that is), to really drive home just how far the game has fallen.
I am the hardcore crafter and gatherer. I am happy at my house crafting. My FC is pretty dead, but when it had people, I used to craft gear for everyone and my wife is the same, but she likes more to craft furniture, our three houses were decorated by her.
When I played WoW I didn't have a reason to craft because nothing was worth crafting, some things would sell well, but it was just that one item (I was a blacksmith…. I don't remember, definitely not an engineer that usually had better things to sell.)
Enjoy your time in Eorzea the way you like! That's the beauty of FFXIV.
i have worked among many a company in my years at the work force. some going on for 20-30 years strong, and have no signs of stopping. some that had potential, but failed years later after 10 or so years of a honeymoon phase.
there are a number of factors that lead to the latter case, but per this video's focus, the lack of a sense of community is one of them. not just between client and businesses, but also internally among departments and the hierarchy. and we know now, Blizzards' workplace is total mess. and this is rather reflective of the developers mindset in refusing to mingle and build a community with their players, rather instead to hardheadedly push what they think is right.
WoW has enjoyed it's honeymoon phase, which ended years ago if former players are to go by. and they're now on a slow descent. it's simply a matter of time till they truly crash down. they still have a chance to revert course, but they need to do a lot more than simply give vapid lip service and empty promises, all for appearance sake.
Really well down! This is so true, FF is an organically formed community that allows and enjoys almost every variant of tastes and culture.
Yoshi-P is simply beyond comparison to almost any other game devs, I haven't played them all and so can't be 100% sure, but his vision defines a space that doesn't grow to his specifications, it just lets others grow to their own.
So I came to FFXIV only a few months ago and it was already booming, comparisons were drawn between games and developers and usually FFXIV comes on top. any chance for a video showing the similarities between FFXIV and other MMO (if there are any of course)? cause i heard that Yoshi P takes a lot of inspiration from other MMO to make FFXIV even encourages trying other games. Good Video tho thumbs up.
Ion Hazzikostas is a blight that needs to be removed if Blizzard is to succeed in fixing WoW.
All hail Yoshi-P. <3
I would like to say I was shocked about not finding any clips of Ion…
Yoshi P reminiscing on 20 years past…one day we’ll all be looking back on FFXIV fondly like that.
I expected some kind of condescending remark from Ian's part about the community, this.. I did not expect, but tells more about their attitude than if they talked shit. Savage, man, savage.
God it makes you think
>SKEPTICALY<God forbid it ever happen, but I hope he will be like her majesty Elizabeth and be immortal, 1 day we won't have this brilliant man anymore at the helm… but we are so lucky to have this man at the helm when yoshi passes it will be a very emotional day for not just me but it will be the whole world, it makes me tear up thi king about the scenarioAnother way too look at this is parasitic design. WoW has it in spades. Every borrowed power system for example. Mheanwhile FFXIV strifes to add systems that fit into the existing ones imho.
WoW will never EVER allow you to play music. That doenst bring up metircs.
I’m clicked. Watched, and was actually waiting for a wow clip to show up. I wanted to see the wow side of this topic, and it never came. Me: “wait what? That’s it? Nothing?
while i was watching i noticed the clip is about to end and the title was about ff vs wow community theni read the explanation… 😬
thanks for the clip. i enjoyed watching it. 👍
And then people wonder why so many leave WOW for FF. People don't want to just get more power. People want to play these games to interact with other people. Sometimes in their own way.
I have an extreme sense of Anxiety whenever I'm in a large crowd and I love small groups of people. I feel comfort when I'm in a small group, but that's me. I still feel good when I'm with someone else. Not necessary doing something together, sometimes just sitting there in town, talking, or not doing anything. Just being there.
And FF gives me chance to feel that. Or to lost in a large crowd.
Or go and fight alongside with someone. It's a complex thing but still, I feel it. It's fun. And I want to have more fun. I don't want to just be best raider. I did Savage raids, I did Extreme fights, they are fun, but I love having options. I love to love the game.
That bit about the festivals brought a tear to my eye. I can’t even tell why it was just so wholesome.
As much of a pain in the ass as it is to get a house, housing itself and the work people put into it is a huge part of the fun of the game.
I don't recall where I read it, but an article asked the question: Would WoW benefit from a reboot? And the fact of the matter, I think that may be the only way it could survive going forward. It has lost so much respect and fanbase, and more with each new expansion, that it's a matter of time before something more extreme would need to be done to save the product. A reboot would give Blizzard/Activision a chance to really figure out the best way to cater to their players rather than expect the players to continue catering to the developers. I don't imagine they would seize that opportunity, if i'm being honest.
If you build it they will come.
“I’m greedy I just want to satisfy everyone”
Bro that is the exact antithesis of greedy.
If greed is zodiark
Yoshi p is Hydaelyn
WoW just never promoted a since of unity even among your own faction. Plus add in the lack of recourse for toxic but legal behaviors (account wide block would been nice 10 years ago) the game just became where you expected anyone you didn't know IRL to screw you.
FFXIV devs are like good parents/caretakers. And it reflected in their game and the community.
I'm looking forward to spoof videos of those dogs being rescued from abuse and finally finding a loving forever home, but it's about WoW refugees.
I wish I could play FFXIV. I live in S. Korea and there is a Korean version here which is separated from the Japan and NA servers. If you have a Korean IP, you can't sign up outside. It's like a gaming prison for people who want to play in English communities. And no one I know in Korea plays FFXIV. I've tried VPNs, etc. but SE is hyper-vigilant about blocking any Korean bank cards, etc. At least I can enjoy these awesome videos. Honestly, I hope they just sunset the game in S. Korea, since no one plays here anyway. Maybe we can get out onto other servers then.