Zodiark is gone, and so are the leaders of the Ascians. But there are still some of those villains out there. Pashtarot, Altima, Halmarut and more. So what do we know about the other members of this organization? Let’s explore what we know about them from Final Fantasy XIV’s story and speculate on their possible futures.
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This is a good refresher on all the Ascians we have seen or heard of so far. I completely forgot about some of the ARR cutscenes with the Ascians.
This vid was great! Definitely worth another watch, and another. . .
In an recent interview Yoshi-P said they don't really have a grand plan for the Ascians in ARR/HW, so they are just being the bad guys doing bad stuff in the background.
Your video's are just so well put together ! It's a shame you don't have more subscribers
Honestly, I’m kind of hoping white auracite doesn’t wipe them out permanently. It’s cool as hell if it does, but it just makes me sad given that if they return to the aetherial sea, they could possibly live in this new world just fine.
As for emmerololth: I’m gonna say it was probably the original and Galuf was wrong. Oversight is the most likely option, but I prefer the “Galuf was wrong” option.
I really hope we still learn more about them and see them into the future, even though their storyline is mostly concluded at this point. Could be interesting working together with them on something far into the future.
I still think Lahabrea is stuck in Thordan's sword tbh. The sword never disappeared.
I have to say, revisiting a lot of these Ascians and their stories makes you realise how they went from Evil Mwahaha Googieman to Actual People with a Goal they deemed just.
It makes you wonder how much of Endwalker was even planned out back in the days of ARR or even 1.0. We know the model used for Ascian Prime was intended to be the 1.0 Ascian model, so I'd imagine the initial story for the Ascians changed with the move to ARR, but their goals and ways of achieving said goals seemed to change again after Heavensward, more specifically with Shadowrbingers.
I mean why did the Ascians needs Louisoux's staff?
How can the WoL's growth in power be called "the limitless potential of man" when it was the Ancients who had limitless potential and "Man" was seen, rightly so, as a mere fraction of what it once was?
And why did so many of the Ascians look, act and even move like typical villains? Taking pleasure in the torment of those effected by their actions. Just look at the way Mabriales wiggles his fingers at Minphilia. Not exactly giving the impression of someone on a noble mission to bring back the lives lost to bring Zodiark about.
I'm genuinely interested to see where the story was planning to go at each stage of development and how it changed over time.
I mean, we were originally meant to go to Dalamud, not the other way around. So we know how some of the plans changed.
I kinda feel that Galuf was wrong. and I hope he is wrong. it would make my "remaining living Ascians make Little Amaurot aka Island Sanctuary" theory a little plausible since Emm was a "healer" convocation member, and would be really helpful in manpower situations…
Informative video
I love all your videos. I have a few notes on this one based on my own studies of the Ascians:
1) Emmeroloth, Igeyorhm, and Nabriales, like Mitron and Loghrif, would have had different shards of themselves awakened by Emet-selch using their respective constellations. It is possible for all of them to be around. This is why we see Emmeroloth in that cutscene despite their other shard's death during the events that destroyed the isle of Eureka.
2) I don't think that using white auracite destroys an Ascian forever, "never to return to the Aetherial Sea," or unsundered (and dead) Emet-selch, who was destroyed with auracite, wouldn't have been able to help us out in Ultima Thule.
3) Lahabrea would have been freed to return to the Aetherial Sea upon the death of King Thordan (the primal), since Hythlodaeus was also released by Zodiark to return to the Aetherial Sea upon the latter's death. Otherwise, again, his dead self couldn't have come to help us in Ultima Thule.
4) Return to the Aetherial Sea, for an Ascian, constitutes a final death. They cannot reform themselves and return to the physical world as they can if they are permitted to flee into the Rift.
5) It is likely that the Black-masked Ascians can also reform themselves and return to the Rift as evidenced by the fact that a non-overlord–a Sahagin, no less–could effect the same ability simply by using the Echo. Not to mention that Zenos, using the Resonant, is able to do the same, allowing him to return to his body despite having killed himself at the end of Stormblood.
I hope you see this as a loving and constructive comment and not as a criticism. Your videos have corrected my own views on canon many a time, and I'm hopeful that I might be able to humbly do the same for you. <3
Now leaving canon for a second: In my own canon–for purposes of RP with friends–I have given Deudalaphon the Ancient name Aphrodite. I'm very excited about using her in my stories, and I hope that she's never introduced in-game so that I can never be proven wrong about her. Especially because I plan to deal with all of her shards at once, so if even ONE of her shards shows up, I'm gonna have to do a lot of correction to stay lore-plausible. XD