The Evolution of Kaine Salvation: Final Fantasy XIV vs NieR



Kaine Salvation is the video that started the channel for me on 2/11/2022. Hard to believe it has been a year. I am so grateful to be here comparing these two amazing themes. And check out the first video ever: https://youtu.be/byL6npi8N-0

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21 thoughts on “The Evolution of Kaine Salvation: Final Fantasy XIV vs NieR”

  1. Kaine is already super important to me as a trans person, her theme has always resounded themes of loss and sorrow, but through the pain able to blossom true.

    Meanwhile the theme of Final Fantasy carries a noble promenade, of hope and new beginnings. That though the path ahead (or the one behind) was full of hardships, we will endure. The violin cries with bittersweet tears briefly in the middle, before steadying itself to march forward.

    The bells symbolizing the destruction of mankind feel almost blasphemous in played with her theme. Brought to life only to sow destruction. It's much later on but the phrase "the end has come and it will be beautiful" comes to mind. It's only appropriate that the victory fanfare does not play.

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  2. So I had never experienced any of DrakeNieR until I started FFXIV, and it made me want to go back and play NieR Replicant, especially just from the music itself.

    One of the big differences between the OG and the XIV version are the vocals themselves. Like someone else mentioned, the OG song she sounds like she’s just kind of given up and disheveled.

    In the FF version, the vocals are almost hopeful, welcoming, even if an end is upon us.

    Won’t lie though, every time the strings come in with the FF theme I just, burst out sobbing. The juxtaposition of the hopeful theme, played in such a melancholy form against a song that feels at times helpless, sometimes makes me wish music didn’t affect me as much as it does 😅

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  3. Darn it Marco, I'm at work and didn't want to start crying but here I am…

    The original makes me think of a sorrowful anger. A kind of sadness you can't forgive. Unspeakable things have happened to you and it makes you angry.

    The FFXIV one makes me think of a sullen sadness. A kind of feeling that sad things have happened, but there were some good things too, so you come to accept it all…

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  4. Funnily enough, next week, Theatrhythm drops on the switch. Final bar line. IF you want to appreciate the music while playing a rhythm game, it's definitely one to go to. Plus, it has planned DLC with nier in it and more.

    Why am I saying this like a shill? Because I'm a fan of it.

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  5. GOSH THE BELLS SENT ME INTO A TERROR WHEN I FIRST HEARD THEM because they appear in Drakengard 1's Ending E, where the protagonist and his dragon companion end up in the skies over Tokyo. The bells are SO haunting, and especially when we'd seen evidence of a red dragon glitch appearing in the game if people hadn't finished a very specific quest, this song came out the gate ready to grab us by the throat and terrorize us. I spent so much of the fight either in tears or in a panic, and the way they wove the theme of the crystal into the melody has been with me ever since.

    Not to say that the music itself leaves me with that sense of dread, because it doesn't. Kainé's Salvation has been one of my favorite pieces of music since I first heard it in Nier, but hearing it here in FF14 really left a deeper impact, Kainé had been one of my favorite characters, but to hear her theme blended so seamlessly with the Final Fantasy theme had me listening to this piece on loop for months.

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  6. The original feels… private; personal. Like one person singing to another person. Like one person telling their backstory to another person.

    The FF14 version feels like the story is being told to a group of people; Of a time past rather the. A personal retelling of the backstory. It sounds sad but also hopeful.

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  7. Congrats on the one year mark and here's to many more! I only recently discovered you recently but I already love your content and commentary and it's a pleasure to hear the genuine passion you put into each of your videos

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  8. The parts using the FF theme give me strong vibes of a waltz, as a sort of last dance which seems fitting considering this is the grand finale of the crossover event.

    Also loving the stuff you do here, and congrats on hitting this first anniversary!

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  9. i have a soft spot for games that has music that goes absolutely hard every for every other track but then then last boss music just makes you cry because it's so soft and emotional. one of my fave games does this, and i thought it was the credit roll/final cutscene song before i played, BUT NO! it was the final boss and it was absolutely heartwrenching when i saw it in motion. one giant chef's kiss.

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  10. Those god damned bells have been in the Drakengard/Nier final/secret/joke endings since the very first Drakengard. Arguably it's more hellish in Drakengard 1 considering old CRT technology, changing refresh rates and input delay…but on the other hand, there's a vicious, truly vicious surprise in Drakengard 3's version that makes people hate it more. But they're both such lovely songs.

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  11. Sent here from Emi's tweet. Nice work. I always saw the song as Kaine's hidden soft side that showing affection for her friends brings out, and the happy moments she spent with her grandmother.
    I'd love to see you cover Drakengard 1's soundtrack because there are layers.

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