Reacting To Video Game Music! | FFXIV – Primogenitor (Midgardsormr's Theme)



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41 thoughts on “Reacting To Video Game Music! | FFXIV – Primogenitor (Midgardsormr's Theme)”

  1. So, the song is pretty old at this point, but we did hear it for the first time not too long after Oblivion, which was probably the most “out there” track in the game at that point – this is definitely when Soken started being more comfortable taking risks

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  2. "maybe I'll finally hear a leitmotif" hilariously, I dont think any of the songs you've been requested have leitmotif overlaps with each other – though some of the songs you've heard do have references to old school FF songs.
    One of the interesting leitmotifs is Endwalker's trailer theme features leitmotifs from each of the four expansions before it – each one overtaking the song in succession as it progresses. They are opposed to each other, but dont feel like they clash discordantly.

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  3. You mentioned liking the setting for the fight, and that it seemed like it's floating or something, so I'll explain this one.

    Part of the background is that there is a lake in the setting called Silvertear, which Migardsormr considered his home domain. A powerful, high tech empire decided to fly their airship fleet past the lake to conquer the lands that laid beyond, and the Father of Dragons took offense to that.

    He called forth hordes of his descendants and they proceeded to utterly annihilate the offending fleet of airships. Migardsormr personally destroyed the Empire's flagship (think something like a magic-punk version of a Helicarrier or flying battleship for a sense of scale), which exploded, killing the dragon. The remains fell into Silvertear Lake, standing straight up, with the remains of Migardsormr wrapped around them.

    This dungeon takes place 20 years after that fight, as you ascend the wreckage of the airship, having received some premonitions that perhaps the great wyrm isn't as dead as he appears. And then you have this fight at the top, the lake and surrounding countryside visible in the background, providing an excellent vista and final boss fight for A Realm Reborn's story (all the following dungeons are in the Heavensward expansion, which this fight and the preceding content are setting up).

    As the dragons are a major part of Heavensward's story (and ol' Middy plays a large part in it), this song gets used during important moments involving them, with this fight acting to firmly establish Primogenitor as the "you're dealing with one of the big dragons now" music.

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  4. One fun thing a less tense version of this track is the standard mount music for Reasons. This is also used both for the fight with ghostly Midgardsormr in the ruins of the imperial flagship and Omega's recreation of the Midgardsormr from its data when it's sick of you winning all your fights and trying to find something it can send at you that will kill you.

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  5. OMG YES. So quick story: I was finally lvl 50 getting a little discouraged on how far I want to take this game, everything has been great but i just wasn’t 110% invested at this point. Then I get the final boss on this dungeon and WOW. This track and the theme of the dungeon totally set the mood, not to mention what happened after! Easily my favorite orchestration from this game. This dragonsong and the dragon itself means a lot to me.

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  6. This song is good but I dislike this dungeon, I've run it WAY too many times haha. It used to be the highest level dungeon and there weren't as many alternatives back then, so I ran it like 8 times a week for a few months. I can still hear the alarm going off when you alert the guards haha

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  7. Your reaction is priceless 😂 that was pretty much me when I first heard it but instead I was screaming while trying to dodge all these advanced attacks lol they really upped the combat gameplay for this fight because it was just so chaotic which fit with the song, but now when I go back to its so calm now.

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  8. I'm not a FFXIV player but for any old school WoW players this reminds of the atmosphere during the fight with Illidan, the songs are nothing alike but its this antithesis between going through such a major fight with such a weirdly calming musical background, only adds to the gravitas of the situation. If anything i wish the entire composition would be even a bit more mellow than it is ( it was only that amazing piano solo which seemed a bit out of place but it was so good that no way am i complaining )

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  9. This song always made me think of emotions for bone deep sadness/grief and surging rage oddly enough. Considering the story it makes alot of sense.

    Also for another character from a different fiction, This song would kinda fit for Dracula from Castlevania. It has the same emotional conflict I feel that Dracula does in the show.

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  10. This fight and song is what got me hooked to the game. You basically start out being the "chosen one", fighting the evil empire, evil beasts, evil dragons and evil guys in black robes.

    Then you go to this guy, get a way more complex dungeon and fight than I was used to, defeat his spirit … and he just laughs at you, removes your "chosen one" blessing and says "I'll go with you, let's see how you do on your own." The first time I thought "maybe all this fighting evil guys isn't just what it seems …"

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  11. It was interesting when you mentioned about the fight being chaotic and yet the music is so calm…so this music is also played during O10S (raid fight) in which you fight Middy, and chaotic is…a very, VERY big understatement to describe the fight.
    You are fighting a literal dragon hurling fire balls at you, it is very much a run here, dodge here, smack a dragon here kind of fight, and yet the music?
    Calm, eerily calm while you feel uptight and on edge; it is the WEIRDEST experience listening to something so calm in the background while you and your team are screaming 😂 And all I have in my memory of that fight is the piano building, this insane piano getting louder and louder while I have a dragon- quite literally- trying to hit me in the face, as if he's just building up this calm rage and then unleashing it on my healer ass -.-

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  12. Midgardsormr has such a great theme that really fits his character. He is the father of all dragons in 14, having fled his home world with 6 eggs across the cosmos until he found refuge on 14's world. In exchange for granting his children safe passage he became something of a guardian spirit for the planet. A ghost dragon called on whenever the world is in grave danger.

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  13. realized there have been no dark souls boss theme reactions on this channel yet, probably only a matter of time, but so much great music in those games, and a lot of it ties heavily into the lore of each boss.

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  14. FFXIV has a lot of bangers, i would suggest The Extreme and Ifrits Ultimate theme, which is different from Ifrits normal theme, the normal theme is pretty like serious and "dramatic" meanwhile the ultimate version is more of a metal version of that and is played during Ifrits phase during one of the 3 hardest fights in the game

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  15. This one for me is basically the dragons theme. It's not only for THIS particular dragon, Midgardsormr, father of all dragons, including Nidhogg and Hraesvelgr, the ones that you saw in previous songs. It also plays during scenes with those two and for me it's basically the theme for all dragons and their majesty, their beauty, these noble giant winged beasts. It's so magical, so dangerous, so emotional. You can feel the pain but the pride as well. I really really love this theme.

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  16. I wanted to mention something, what you usually say about FFXIV music, that strangely doesn't seem to fit but at the same time it's beautiful and adds richness.
    I'm no music expert but I do know a little bit about OST making, and there's usually a rule one should follow which is that the music should not express the same as the visuals. If you want to make a good soundtrack for a movie you should compose in a way that the music will accompany the visual instead of stealing it's spotlight. If the scene is sad, you shouldn't just make sad music. There are video analysis about this and how like Pixar movies do this.

    Videogames are younger than movies, and for the longest time videogame music wasn't treated as normal OST. If there's a fight, the music gets a faster tempo. If the scene is calmed, the music is calmed. What's so cool about FF music, NieR music, or other OSTs that I like is that they ACCOMPANY the visuals. They add richness and complexity to what you're seeing and what you're playing, changing the way you experience it. That's, for me, what a good OST should do.

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  17. The theme of the father of all dragons in FF14. He possesses such great power being dead for over 5 years wasn't the end of him. He can bring himself and other dragons back to life, which is the basis of his boss fight. Even though he has great power, he's still just a washed up has-been, and it'll take a very, very long time for him to recoup his lost power.

    But he has enough power to deem you UNWORTHY and beat you with a nerf bat. So from then on you gotta prove you are worthy to him, while he rides in your backpack as a tiny dragon.

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  18. Heavensward has a lot of religious themes, with the church of Ishgard(the nation most of the expansion takes place in) having a big role in the story. The fact that a lot of the most iconic songs from that expansion have that kind of holy "air" about them makes sense in hindsight. Also you get to fight the Pope, which is always fun.

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  19. In regards to your comment about watching the footage, it is a fantastic thing this game does is that for a lot of the fights/encounters the enemies do an extravagant dance that matches the tempo music, and in some encounters the music will reach its peak at the time you must end the fight or the fight will end you. (think final enrage of uwu)

    Would almost suggest reacting to that, but a near 19 minute song reaction might be asking a bit much… plus should having reactions to all the other battles with ifrit, garuda, titan and ultima weapon (with their music) related to this encounter beforehand. The final song is called "the weapons refrain (ultimate) but doing them all in tandem like the fight goes would be the best reaction

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  20. If you're looking for more fighting game music, I highly recommend Under Tube, Strange Sunset, or Amusementive Crime from Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha (Plus Alpha specificially because plus's OST sounds a little lacking). I'd also super recomend Love the Subhuman Self and Alone Infection from Guilty Gear Strive and just the whole OST of Guilty Gear X2.

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  21. It was really great to get to sit down and appreciate that piano when you mostly hear the first half with that beautiful melody in the scenes after (and the mount theme as other people mentioned).

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  22. This dungeon blew my mind, the music, the last fight, the ending cinematic, when you talk to dragon Jesus who looks you like you're an insect and the piano part is playing in the back, I felt powerless in-game and I was speechless.

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