WoW will win the BATTLE, FFXIV will win the WAR



WoW Dragonflight will probably get a lot of sales and a lot of hype making it appear like it might be the “revival” of World of Warcraft. That’s very unlikely.

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  1. Hate how right you are with the influencer segment. When Shadowlands was flopping and all the Blizzard drama I decided to check some WoW content creators out just to enjoy the controversies but was happy when I saw some of them try out FFXIV and decided to stick with them. Wasn't many but the main one was Belular but man I've started to absolutely hate their WoW videos and only watch the FFXIV ones. They did videos about how many mistakes were made with Shadowlands and how it repeats every single time a new expansion comes out yet here he is again making videos praising a Blizzard and hyping Dragonflight.

    The thing that pisses me off the most and what he said he has to do for the algorithm and what you also confirmed was he makes really bombastic titles with WORDS BOLDED! and exclamation MARKS! and a thumbnail with someone doing an :O face and a WoW character with a photoshopped exaggerated expression saying how THIS! will change WoW forever. Then the video is just him calmly talking about how a character from TBC might show up in Dragonflight and that would be neat-o. Makes him not only seem disingenuous but that he doesn't have anything genuine to say. He just wants the stupid gullible idiot pigs to gather around the troth and eat up the fancy thumbnail.

    Atleast with the FFXIV videos Belular makes the titles are succinct and the video itself is about what the title says. Don't see WoW influencer buy buy buy gimme ad revenue algorithm engagement but get to see Bellular and Matt talking about a game they like.

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  2. I gave up on it when they started Disney-ing everything. And what do I mean by that? "Well, we're out of ideas…let's start recycling old ideas to bring in money by nostalgia-baiting." I have plenty of gripes with FF14 but WoW's been doing the same pattern and cycle longer than I can recall. I wish Blizzard could figure SOMETHING out, but all my hopium and copium has long since run dry.

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  3. This is the typical American business model. It happens across many industries. Cars are a big one. American car manufacturers, typically run by what is essentially a salesman, will "resdesign" a car, put millions of dollars into marketing to create interest, but underneath all the new plastic is the same unreliable pile of crap from the past few years. OR, they redesign the drive train but they didn't design or test it well and it turns out ot be a pile of junk. They get as many sales as they can and then re-design it again next year. Japanese car makers typically promote someone like and engineer to run the company and they use an incremental approach. Make a model, identify the issues and fix them for the next years model. Not doing many complete redesigns. The long game of making reliable cars.

    After falling for the hype for Warhammer Online, I just wait a couple months before jumping into a new MMO or expansion. It feels pretty bad when you get super excited about a game and 2 months in your friends stop playing and they start announcing server merges.

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  4. The fact that they are still putting the raids and dungeons into the the ptr just shows they arent changing for the better. All the 'story' is in the beta so no one can discover it when it goes live, nothing has changed nor will it. WoW is dead and this is its depressing death throes, its a damn shame that the greatest innovator for mmos is now just a sad husk of its former self

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  5. Another big problem for wow is that it makes far more sense for influencers to run to FF14 because of trends. I think when dragonflight comes out we'll see a temporary switch to WoW for a little bit. I found FF14 to be culty, which is normal for the new shiney thing, but it was funny because the cultiest players were ex WoW players lol. It's like they didn't learn.

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  6. i had five accounts with deluxe editions, 6 month subs, playing since beta in 2004. i'm done.

    i was already done after they decided to 180 on multiboxing instead of their garbage "QOL" changes, but i still gave shadowlands a shot for the first month. trash game, trash company.

    glad i was able to buy atvi at 57.5 though, thanks blizzard.

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  7. Found it funny that he uses elden ring as this example of good hard work to make the magnum opus, becuse as a huge ds fan and veteran id say ER isnt as good as ds1 or even 2 really. What made ds good was the design of the progression thrgouh the world. Why ds3 imo (excluding dlc) is prolly the worst ds game. What made fromsoft popular was their simplistic yet diffacult combat but what made the games actully amazing and immersive was the level designs. Elden rings legecy dungeons are amazing but other then that the world is so empty and traversing large landscapes isnt fun ecspecally when the horse combat is basicly pointless.

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  8. hype, it raises you up into the clouds until you look down like a looney tunes character and realize there is no ground beneath your feet, only to tumble down into the chasm.

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  9. You summed up pretty well why I left WoW and probably never return.
    I grew up with blizzard games, starting with Diablo 1, Warcraft 2 etc. I bought every game no matter the style just because I expected something good. In vanilla WoW I remember that we even got compensation for the weekly maintainance. I overworked myself with TBC, stopped in Wotlk and then only really tried to play casually. But I noticed how much the game drifted more and more away from what I considered fun. I still tried every new expansion for a month or two just to get to the same conclusion, that this game isn't as magical as it once was.

    When they announced Classic WoW old friends I already played vanilla with, wanted to give it a try. But the game was very mishandled, while my brother and I were willing to grind the game out, our friends slowly left the game for many reasons. Our server started as faction balanced, but more and more alliance left the game or transed. Our server had 6-8 hour queues …. AFTER 3 MONTH STILL. It was unplayable for anyone who just want to have fun. When PvP patch came out, it was completely over. We took 1-2 hours ghost walking just to reach a dungeon that is not even 10 minutes away from the flightpoint. But you got camped by anything so hard, that you barely survived a second after rezzing.
    Blizzard respons was: "Wait for the hype to go down, run as a group (at this point it was 70/30 in favor for the enemy) .. or use the free transfer. Horde started to just abuse the systems by keeping people captive and farm them for honor. I had a character stuck for multiple hours on a graveyard because raids of hordes were camping a "NEUTRAL" City.
    They completely misshandled it… and every single patch they came up with stuff that hurt the playerbase more than it helped. Their handling of bots was "Shoot first, wait for people to complain enough to get unbanned". Literally had mass false banwaves against player and the community would not even be on your side for injustice. If you complain about anything unfair, they would just come out and kick you down even more. The community didn't care at all for problems that THEY didn't have YET. And was the last straw for me.

    One night, early TBC. I was again farming and dying to RNG to get enough gold for respeccing talents, just to make PvP and PvE on my character. Blizzard ignored the cries for dual spec the whole way through. They just changed stuff that would hurt the balance, nothing to make it more modern or casual friendly, even if its on basic levels. This night I decided to try FF14 after watching Asmongolds whole playthrough of ARR and HW. And a week was enough to leave a game behind, where we had so many friends we enjoyed playing with.. but it was massacred by pure greed.
    WoW Classic was a Cashcow, Shadowlands was just horrible and now with Wraith…… THEY GET SERVER PROBLEMS AGAIN with MASSIVE QUEUES. And they "can't do anything about it".

    FF14, even when they fucked up, always stood up to their mistakes and tried to make it better. In WoW, people didn't even get gametime for false bans, massive queues that make it unplayable or similar. NOTHING! And the community will claim that "THEY NEVER DID", but they did. They once cared for this stuff. Now they just make excuses to save as much money as possible.
    In comparisson, FF14 gave us in this year we play more free game time than I have every recieved in total from blizzard. And that just for some server issues, that were NOOOOOTHING compared to WoW Classics DAILY SERVER ISSUES.

    Blizzard doesN't deserve to be called king anymore… I mean, they banned "King" as viable name already from their game..

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  10. I don't have anything to add, but their way of marketing is not bad by default, creating a good ecosystem with content creators is alright. Sadly their product is just not so good, but I hope the fans will be happy with DF

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  11. The way things are looking WoW may not even win the battle. There's a million things Blizzard can do to rejuvenate interest in the game, but not a one of them is included in this new expansion so far. And as far as fundamental problems go, they are too proud to do what must be done. Factions must be removed. All races should have access to all the basic classes. Character customization needs to be overhauled. They need to go back to two difficulties for raids. QoL needs to be adjusted so we're at least where XIV and GW2 are. They need to embrace the ambient story telling of classic WoW and stop acting like we're in the MCU. New player experience needs to be walked back to have a stronger focus on racial identity and what class you play. Take class halls and apply them to the entire game. Introduce a level scaling system to dungeons and add roulettes to keep your content relevant at all times. Make high end gear special again. Bring back real tier sets with real tier bonuses. Hire graphics artists who can maximize the potential of what this engine is capable of. Restore everything the woke mob axed from the game. Restore all the PVE and PVP content that was removed from the game. For me personally, I won't even consider coming back unless most of these conditions are met.

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  12. Dragonflight! Dragon flying is the hype thing and GW2 already does it better. L O L ppl are so brainwashed by that company. great video to echo that some of us already knew. Hopefully your words reach them cause man its fuckin sad seeing ppl still supporting that scumpany. Good blizzard is DEAD yall cherish the goldens days, do not tarnish it with this husk former self.

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  13. As a wow veteran of 17 years from the beginning of vanilla to 9.2 I’m never going back to wow. I see what blizzard is now. They don’t care and will change any and everything just to suit their needs and that is trash.

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  14. WoW officially lost me with Shadowlands. I've now realised I'm a more casual player and found other games like FF14 that respected my time more. Back with WoW I would buy the expansion, play a month or 2 then quit until next expansion. With FF14 I've resubbed during the main patches and I've taken breaks in between to play other games. It just works for me a lot better.

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  15. Blizzard is a used car salesman. They're Billy McFarland, selling you on the hype of Fyre Festival. They hype up the experience, then when they don't deliver, they try to shift the blame. Now, to keep the fish on the hook, they're desperately trying to go back and sell you what was good once, hoping your nostalgia will keep the money rolling in.

    FFXIV just wants you have fun, if that means dressing up like a frog and decorating your room to look like a vampire lair, or a steam punk juicer den, then have at it.

    So the question is, nostalgia or fun?

    Everybody has to make that decision for themselves, but I need to go buy some housing decorations. That steam punk juicer den sounds sick.

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