In this video Genjigear really gets into all the reasons why Final Fantasy 14 is just not fun for him and why he has decided to quit FFXIV. Of course, this is all personal opinion, please do not be offended, but also please feel free to feed the algorithm and tell Genjigear why he is stupid and wrong.
Thank you for all of those who have been on this amazing journey this year, it’s been a blast playing this game and sharing my experience. I am excited for the next chapter for this YouTube channel and I hope you join me as I continue to talk about games on the internet.
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Sorry I haven't been around the stream. Been focusing on savage and ultimate but I'd like to comment an opinion. I'll be honest. I took a break after stormblood because I wasn't feeling it for 2 years. I agree, they could of done more with the scions in arr and stormblood (for obvious reasons they couldn't really do it in HW). I do believe that in ARR the devs didn't focus much because they were trying to get the game out quickly with the disaster that was 1.0. However, I will say, the most fun I've had in the game was raiding in extremes and savages (and coils too when they were new). After two years I had an itch to jump back in and I'm glad I did. The character development and story in both Shadowbringers and Endwalker is fantastic. I will say that I've played a ton of games and while I don't think it's the best story (my favs would have to be Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, and FF7 (all of which is a silent protagonist on a linear path)) it is definitely up there (not to mention definitely the best story in any MMO). As far as for difficulty that's where extremes, savages, and ultimates come in. The MSQ is not supposed to be hard. It's supposed to be accessible to all millions of players. I've spent countless hours slowly progressing a raid just chatting away on discord to other party members as we die over and over again (I've died more times in ff14 then any souls game). The thrill of finally beating that last tier savage boss or ultimate boss is amazing. I don't think you gave the hard content a chance. As mentioned earlier I took a break so I understand your decision. I do wish you the best of luck and hopefully I can catch a stream sometime soon!
Play what u like/ every game isn't for everyone
I was hoping you'd continue to playing through it in your downtime, but I caught some of the recent streams a bit, and you were pretty clearly not into it. And that's okay! (Obviously) I'm glad you're wise enough to stop playing something you're not having fun with. I wish more people would do that, honestly. These are games, afterall. 😅
That said, I'm sticking around. I like your style, and I want to see what you get up to.
I hope you enjoyed the journey and it gave you something. After all, 400+ hours is a huge commitment. I personally subscribed to follow you on that journey. – A bit sad that it wasn't your taste, your insight was different from many others, a fresh breeze of opinions.
I just want you to know, that the relationship between the scions in the story, seems to be the focus of the later expansions (Mid Shadowbringers and onwards). I know it's to late in the story, but if you ever want to experience it on your own time, you know it's there.
Otherwise, thank you for your videos and may you find joy elsewhere ^^
Best regards, a normally silent youtube watcher.
you gave it a fair shake, no point in forcing yourself through it. maybe you'll come back to finish the story, maybe not. whatever you do, enjoying your time spent is most important. Looking forward to content where you've got passion for it again, whatever that is.
ironically, there used to be a lot more development for the scions in ARR but they clipped it out with their trimming down the MSQ to cut out the fluff. Oh well ':D
A testimony to how big a game is. "I gave it a 400 hour try." This is a great review! I will miss the short shorts though. 😢
You gave it your best shot, and thats all that can be asked. I disagree with like most of your points, and it just sounds like the game as it is, and the game you expected are just too disparate, which is fine. Good luck out there, hope you find many more games that hit you in that same place that FFXIV hits for me.
The games story slaps tho, for real lol.
I think it's fair to say there are games that you like more. There are a lot of games that are hailed as having amazing stories that don't resonate with me at all. Like I personally rank Stormblood above Heavensward because I'm not into the whole knights and dragons aesthetics. But stories and concepts of Heavensward are very good and I would never say it was a bad expansion. If FFXIV's method or topic of storytelling isn't for you, that's understandable, but implying people haven't played many games with good stories just because they really like FFXIV's story is kind of disingenuous.
That being said, I think it's one of the best video game stories, having finished it entirely. If you didn't finish Shadowbringers, I'll just say it kind of ties everything together and recontextualizes the story. That's not to say it would make you like the story, but it might put more things into perspective as to why people love it so much. I'm very much a story game type of person. I play most games for story and I love diving into the lore of games. Even I wouldn't say it's the best story ever, either. They definitely could clean up some parts, and I agree with the Nanamo thing. I think they should have taken more risks in other parts of the story. But just killing people off for shock value is cheap and just because someone doesn't die that doesn't necessarily mean it's free of consequence. I'd be comfortable saying its the best MMO story. And competitive amongst singleplayer games.
I don't agree with your assessment about the lack of character development and impactful moments. Except with regards to some ARR stuff, but during/after Heavensward there has been a lot of depth added to the characters. It could be that you forgot or missed some context, didn't notice subtle details, nuance in the voice acting, or were being memed at by your chat and was taken out of the moment, I don't know, but there is depth to the characters and their relationship to the WoL. The information is all there and the game assumes you understood. A lot of people seem to have picked up on it, so maybe you just take in information differently from everyone who got it. As for romance, there's actually a lot of romance in the game. For the Scions though, it does happen, but I'm guessing you didn't pick up on it or didn't get to certain parts in the story. But overall, as you said, romance isn't needed to make a story good.
I'll also agree with you about the gameplay. I personally find the combat to be one of the least appealing parts of the game. I probably would have dropped the game after finishing ARR back in the day if not for the crossbar system for controller. It makes it feel more like a fighting game and more enjoyable.
I'll end this thesis by saying that I personally think streaming is probably the worst way to experience FFXIV's story. You have your barriers up and lots of people distracting you. Everyone is different, of course. I just imagine for some people it can be much harder to find that immersion that so many people have with the game when playing alone. Especially when people are interacting with you in the game and telling you what the community hivemind has deemed as the acceptable parts to like and hate. Ultimately it comes down to what you enjoy. If you don't like FFXIV, at least you tried it instead of talking trash about something you didn't understand. It is what it is and what it is isn't for you. I won't unsubscribe just because you aren't covering FFXIV anymore, I look forward to seeing if you cover anything else I'm interested in.
Well I am gonna have to unsub but thanks for the trip! 🙂
Fair enough. Everyone has their own tastes.
Except the point where you just assumed people just didn't play enough games to think this game has a great story, in a game where even the developers encourage you to play other games.
So I do played A LOT of games, even Cyberpunk (which is like 5/10 for base game and 7/10 for the DLC in term of story in my book), and this game is still one of the best.
A shame, you left just before the story starts going up and up and up. Good luck with whatever you'll play now.
In Shadowbringers the worldbuilding takes a step back and char development takes the spotlight, and it's probably the best videogame story ever written.
I stopped by to watch hoping that what deters him from the game confirms what deters me.
Unfortunately right out of the gate he says the exact opposite.
The community.
I've been playing since 2014.
During that time I took one 8month break away during 2016 to play ffxv.
My encounters with other players in this game are mostly in duty finder and on the servers novice network.
Most of the time I just indifferently don't share opinions and beliefs and values with those I encounter but regularly I encounter someone or several someones so vile and toxic its enough to have me considering quitting.
I wish I could encounter people that don't make me want to vomit.
I wish I was making friends
But it's just not happening.
Even as I approach 9 years playing.
Hoping maybe someone can change my mind.
To my eyes thus far the community is the biggest pitfall with what is otherwise onenof my fave pastimes.
Hey,
thanks for trying out the game. I sometimes tuned in on your twitch streams and looked at your old streams on twitch to look back where you are in the story. But I already felt like you were forcing yourself through the game in the end. So I am glad that you don’t force yourself through it, because this way you will only resent this game.
But I personally too have to disagree with your statement that people who love this games story should play more games. I searched the comments, because I was kinda interested in which games you „define“ as good games. You recommended some games to another person and I wanted to react to it, because I also played some of them and you said they all have a better story than FFXIV. BTW you have good taste, looking at the games you recommended. But I honestly disagree with your statement that they all have better stories than FFXIV. With some of those games I can agree, but in the end it also has to do a lot with personal preference. I will only comment on the games you named, which I personally played:
You named these games as having better stories than FFXIV, but I disagree with them having a better story:
Cyberpunk 2077, Read Dead Redemption, Portal 1-2, FFVII Remake, Fallout New Vegas, Persona 3 & 5, GTA V
I personally disagree with those stories being better than FFXIV a lot.
There are a lot of very basic stories in this list, which have been retold in different contexts a lot. Also a lot of the "plot twists" (especially in Cyberpunk 2077) were very predictable.
But for someone else maybe those stories were interesting. I personally found some of them very stereotypical stuff, which I have already seen in other forms of media and I didn't found those stories that interesting. They are good stories, don't get me wrong. But having played through all of FFXIV, I personally don't think they are better. So for me those games were nothing new. I only included FFVII Remake here, because I personally prefer FFVII (without the remake) more.
Next we have games which you named as having better stories than FFXIV, which I would say have a "similar good" story to FFXIV, but not necessarily better:
Mass Effect, FFX, Metal Gear Series, Witcher 3 (I can also agree that Witcher might be better, but I honestly never really liked the Witcher setting. But die-hard Witcher fans love the whole setting)
I think all of those are good games and you definetely show good taste in video games. Nothing more to say to that.
At last those are games which I can agree to have a better story than FFXIV:
Disco Elysium, FFIX
But in the end these are also just my personal preferences. I just wanted to show you that I also played some of these games you named and I personally still prefer FFXIV’s story before these games. So I personally HAVE played other games and I still agree that I like FFXIV’s story more. In the end it is propably only personal preferance or if the game resonated with you.
I also agreed with a lot of your other points, but I didn’t like you assuming that we haven’t played other games or read other stories, if we are amazed by FFXIV’s story. Otherwise, thanks that you gave the game a shot. 😊Maybe you get back to it one day. But it was fun watching you play.
Edit: I hope I wasn't too negative or something.
I just felt the need to explain that liking the FFXIV story doesn't necessarily have to do with a lack of knowledge, but instead with a personal preference for certain types of stories.
I just wanted to show that you can have played different kinds of games and still prefer FFXIV above those stories. I personally also quit during Stormblood and took a long break (maybe a year?) before playing again. I think it is not good forcing yourself through multiple hours of this game. You will resent the story of every game if you force yourself to play it, no matter how good the story will be in the end. Also some stories might resonate differently at different times or your life.
Oooh. I understand why you left the game. One of my friends who I started with has many of the same criticisms as you though she decided to see it through to the end of Endwalker because she enjoys playing with us die hards. That said, I'm super looking forward to the cideos you mentioned about FFVI and FFXII. Those two along with FFIX are my favorites in the series after all.
I hope you find a game that suites you better
Very happy you made this video, thank you so much. I am a huge FFXIV fan, and still am, but I also tell my own friends that it’s not for everyone, it definitely is not. And I would say, personally as an FF fan, that XIV is a different texture than the single player titles, doing the relative value of either is fraught with risk for people’s opinions but at the end of the day it’s FF and not every title is for everyone. Cheers! 💕
Fair enough that you did not end up liking the game but I would disagree on two things though : that most single player Final Fantasy games were good at delivering romance. By avoiding it with the main cast in this game they avoided the worst bits as the romance seems forced writing rather than natural and if you cannot write romance not taking your first stab at it in a established franchise is best. The other being the characters coming back from the dead as that has been a problem in all of modern Final Fantasy. When was the last time Biggs and Wedge died? Until the credits roll I never consider anyone dead in these games. FFX and FFVII Remake are great examples of this especially the Shinra building scenario and in general no one from the main cast really dies in these games until the end boss with the exception of VII original and older.
I mean, this is a 10+ year old game. Even 3000 hours isn't enough to experience it all, and that's fine. That's precisely why the dev want and plead people to take breaks and do something else. Some people don't move on the next expansion until they do all the current expansion content, and other's B-line the MSQ like I feel you have.
I don't know if you've touched on this in the past but the side content and side quests are where the details of characters development and world building also come into play. If you just do MSQ as it seems you have outside of coils, you really miss out on the character development you seem to complain is lacking.
The fact that you didn't talk about the music must mean you at least like it. Otherwise we're gonna have problems lol. Hope you find another game you like
You gave it more than a fair shot, no worries at all. I think you’re a very good content creator, and you should do what you need to do to be successful and satisfied. I might not stay subbed to your channel but that’s only because my interest in other games is pretty limited. If you get any hate, tell them to kiss your ass! 😂
If a book isn't worth reading over and over again, it isn't worth reading at all.”
-Oscar Wilde
I believe this definitely applies to anything you choose to do in your free time. There are millions of hours of games out there, and you can’t play them all. You should play what you enjoy. It’s too bad it took you four hundred hours to figure this out😉