Putting our End of Endwalker thoughts to digital paper. The final chapter and a look at the future.
0:00 – Our Walk
5:03 – Supportourbromance.com
6:08 – Everything Awesome
12:05 – The Encore is Finished
27:23 – The Future
32:16 – The Dead Ends
37:30 – Trial On Zenos
54:41 – Ending it
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You guys having JoCat with you was great. I hope he returns. Can't wait to see you guys continue the journey with us at almost the same time
Such a beautifully edited beginning ❤ 🥹
i cant handle that poster not being framed and the handaling of it im crying T.T
Kyle makes a good point actually. A lot of people say Endwalker's greatest accomplishment is making Shadowbringers even better, but Endwalker has to be able to stand on its own to do that, right? It would be like being hyped to rewatch Game of Thrones knowing Season 8 exists. Or getting hyped for a Warcraft 3 remaster and Blizzard already said they were going to make story edits to work Shadowlands and the Jailor into it.
Personally, I prefer Endwalker. Shadowbringers put the breaks on everything after Tesleen (lots of worldbuilding/fetch quests for like 3 entire zones) until Mt. Gulg with a super hype ending. Endwalker starts getting hype in the second half of the first zone with that solo duty into the dungeon to the Moon and Zodiark, etc. If anything, the bunny breaks stand out even worse because most of the MSQ was 'go go go'.
Grats on finishing this part of your journey! Small side note: not only is the duty finder canon, so is Limit Break. When the tank uses LB3, Endsinger calls it out as Dynamis.
My partner pointed out to me, and I agree, a big part of Shadowbringers is demystifying the warrior of light; its a very focused expansion, and I agree that it being focused and endwalker being very broad are important for both expacs to do what they do
If I had one complaint about the end, it was that Zenos offered us an option to leave, but the game didn't. I would have been fine with having that option even if it was meaningless, e.g. Zenos is like, but if you leave I'll come and hunt you down, and then the WOL's like, fine, I guess we'll fight. It just really bothered me that you were given an offer and game didn't give you the option to take it. (Not that I would have, it's the lack of that dialogue option that bugged me)
In that middle transition bit in the Endsinger fight, we essentially just walked the same path that Louisouix did. We more or less became a new more universal-sized version of the Phoenix primal. I screamed when I did that fight the first time and they started showing the Scions praying, because it made me feel like the biggest badass ever. 😅
The little spirit in the "add phase" of endsinger is called Kakodaimon, is the ancient greek name for "Evil demon", and they believed this little demon posessed people and caused them to became mentally ill, with things like depression or personality dissorder.
Just some sad context
Cyborgs are flesh with metal bits. Robots are fully metal. The omnicrons are Robots. That being said, the question is (the question you alluded a bunch of sci-fi talks about): Are they Human/People? Do they have a soul?
Funnily enough, FF14 kinda answers this because they were recreated with Akasha, a soul like power, which, I think, is only possible if they were beings of Akasha.
I played reaper through EW, so the final fight with Xenos was “Imma whoop your ass with your own culture’s job. I’m the better man, reaper, adventurer…” it was totally primal. He needed to be defeated on every level. Then, punched him to death, lol.
And then we already burned more then half of emet's list, especially with DT around the corner lol
First video i saw of you guys, really neat, liked it a lot^^
I emphatically disagree that we 'owed' Zenos anything for his assistance. he deliberately caused a cataclysmic event just to get something from us, thousands of people died, and he only showed up to help fix his own mess at the last possible second because of his own selfish desire to get something in return for his help. So, to show my personal response to him, he can call it what he wants, but I'm not letting him leave that place.
Soooooo, for how long did you guys talk that you ended up with an over an hour video? 😆
1. That intro was fantastic, the editing to add you both side by side and the music coordination were truly *chef’s kiss”.
2. Love the Tuxedo Mask reference in the video. Also that shirt Kyle is wearing is 10/10.
3. Praise Ra-La!
4. As someone who hadn’t done a lot of the harder content by the time of our final showdown with Zenos, there was no choice other than option A. There’s no denying that the game has other interesting aspects outside of MSQ, so choosing some other response would have been a straight lie to me.
Now, I shall finish watching the VOD of your 6.1 stream!
If emet and hythlo get reborn, would it be as a complete ancient since they are an unsundered soul. A baby with creation magic and massive magic is born.
Been watching since Garret watched an FF14 trailer and has promised to never touched the game… Seeing him now loving it.. is just a sight to see.. Glad you gave the game a shot.
The Ea – there's no purpose to life.
Y'shtola, probably – but there's purpose TO THESE! thrusts forward her chest
The Ea – there is purpose to life.
There's gotta be an alternate reality where this happened out there somewhere.
Oh, and not only is it a nod to ARR with the prayer scene, but it's a nod to FF4 as well. Which if you guys ever get around to playing FF4 you'll know it when you see it.
41:45 -It's the first time that the phase changes you're like "Did we hit an enrage?"
Yeah. But you didn't hit hers. She hit yours.
It's like the Giygas fight in Earthbound. At some point, the scales tip in your favor. And so you put an end to the end.
What a great concluding video to Endwalker!
I've been here since your first ARR video, and I've loved every step of the way! Quickly became my favorite FFXIV streamers to follow.
Looking forward to the Post-EW content! The Raids, the MSQ, the Side Quests, everything! 🙂
Immediate chills hearing the ultima thule music. Gets me every time.
I've played through Endwalker about 8 times now and I still cannot hold the entirety of it in my head. I go back through it and am like "oh yeah this happens" so many times
This fight is proof that thoughts and prayers DO work! 😂
In the Zenos fight you get 7 stacks of a buff called "Spark of Hope" which has the description "Burning with dynamis shaped by the memory of your journey, and exceeding your own limits."
Every time you hit 0 hp in that fight, you lose one stack of Spark of Hope and temporarily gain "Unlimited" reading "Confronting physical limits and choosing to defy them."
You exceed your limits, and when you can't exceed them any longer, you defy that logic and choose to power on anyway. Hyped up on pure dynamis you keep going beyond death. And on the ground, your life flashes before your eyes, your eyes close.
Any single player game could've ended right there with the hero's death.
I think Zenos is literally incapable of empathy or sympathy, so he's the perfect character to show up to face up against the bringer of despair. Doesn't affect him at all.
I have loved watching the streams in all its various incarnations but my favorite moments that gave me an extra large grin was every time Garrett talked about wanting Emet to come back. The anticipation for Elpis made me giddy.
Excited to see whatever content you decide to do next!
I love your content. I really feel you need to do the patch story for Endwalker before saying SHB or EW are better than the other.
Cant watch 6.1 stream in live section? y
I was so happy to watch the last stream. I will never forget trying to teleport to Coeurl during the Walk and the server was full so I couldn't. FULL. I've never had that happen to me before lmfao. Congrats guys, you made it.
You should do all of the tribal quests across all the expansions. Some of those storylines are rather interesting.
I suppose amusingly for me, Meteion has never really left the story. I got really lucky on my story run through dead ends, and the starbird minion dropped, AND I got the roll for it. She has been the only minion I bring out ever since. So she's getting to experience Etheirys by my WoL's side. And gets to just be a bird through it all, no need to worry beyond that. I agree though, IF she ever shows up again (I don't actually think she will, but who knows!), it should definitely be later. Sometime after Dawntrail at minimum. But that's also the sort of thing XIV has been good at doing anyway: introducing people in one expansion and then not coming back to them until at least 2 expansions later.
iron man would ruin the MCU lol. I HATED that character and was glad when he died lol.
While I loved the video, I do have a question. Did they do the job quests and I missed it?
15:48 Livingway tells us that the Ascians added the tempering ability to the primals they taught the beast tribes how to summon and without that modification it would take a Zodiark level being to feel even a tiny twinge on one's soul. My thinking is Emet and the other Ascians deluded themselves into thinking they were tempered as a way to excuse their actions.
18:35 I'm fine with Hythlo taking backseat here, it fits with his character. He refers to himself being here at all as a bit part, as did his shade back in Amaurot, using the play terminology those two love so dearly.
39:18 It's honestly scary how highly Zenos thinks of the WoL. Meets a metaphysical embodiment of multiple dead civilizations and is like "why haven't you killed it yet?"
51:32 "It's canon that you're Azem AF." I had a whole long spiel prepared about my thoughts on this. But that line sums it up better than all my dribble ever could. When was the last time that someone looked at us and saw an adventurer, a thrill seeker instead of a hero, champion, or savior?
Blue Meteon was an entelki, that was unique, because Hermes gave her a sense of indivuduality. Her sisters were only tools for Hermes.
the censoring of the f word with Kupo will never not be funny, especially after playing Rebirth. Cause seriously, screw those little fur demons.
I still headcanon that Tataru practiced competitive frisbee during downtime and absolutely yeeted a spare teleporter to us.
13:18 It’s actually a reference to watching from the sidelines. The stalls are a theater term for ‘ground level’ seating at the bottom tier of an auditorium. ‘Enraptured from the stalls’ means he would have had a good time simply watching the events play out.
Yes, I want us The WOL to get our other reflections merged back into us to become the new complete version of Azem! I don't want those worlds destroyed though! I also would like to see a stable portal system to the other Reflections but not in Dawntrail! Dawntrail could be a steppingstone in that Y'shtola learns something to add to her research! I'd love it when we contacted the First that years have gone by because time moves differently there! I want to visit the worlds that Meteion's Song of Hope touched eventually, especially Ra-La's World!!! Zenos is my Bro along with Emet & I loved that we could give Zenos closure of a sort!
Honestly being dragged into super hell with Asahi was too good for Hermes.
Editing sharp AF in here!
Due respect to Zenos – he completely carried the WoL in the Endsinger fight.
Praise Ra-La!
I'm with you, Garrett – on its own merits, I prefer Shadowbringers over Endwalker, even taking EW's amazing patch content into account. That said, when I think of the expansions in terms of the overall Hydaelyn arc, Endwalker is my favorite portion of it and it's where the arc sticks the landing, so in those terms, EW feels to me like the greater achievement, in a way.
One of the really remarkable things about Yoshi-P is how open and encouraging he is about people unsubbing and playing other games during FF14 content lulls. Also, part of the context for Endwalker was that there was a lot of chatter from people thinking that the end of the Hydaelyn/Zodiark arc meant an end to FF14. With the context of those two things, a lot of people took Emet's "Have you been to…" hints to mean not "stay subbed" but "we are far from done, please look forward to it".
I'm with you, Garrett (seems to be a theme 😛 ) – Zenos coming in as Shinryu saved his character for me. I suspect I might like it even more than you, though – "I take it this is your prey. Why, then, does it yet live?", said by a dragon who flew through space, is maybe my favorite line from any fiction, though I didn't take it as insulting. Instead, I took it to mean that his esteem of me was so great that my victory over a universe-level threat is a forgone conclusion to him. Even better, he didn't call despair "benign", which means harmless, but "banal", which means boring, which strikes me as even more dismissive. As someone who finds a lot of the "a less-than-perfect life isn't worth living, so I'll end everyone" villain motivations pretty juvenile, Zenos's view was a breath of fresh air. Back in Stormblood, I never would've guessed I'd be grateful for Junktrunk's commentary.
GG!!!!!
I accidentally walked right in-between Kyle(?) and the camera as he was walking around the circle at Absolute Horizon because people were still loading since there were ~400 people there, and I kinda feel bad about it >__<
Sorry.
Dont forget to do the beast tribe quest well worth doing