We’ve talked a lot about one of mankind’s greatest saviors from Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker. Venat plays a major role in the game’s story, but she isn’t the perfect hero she might seem at first glance. Let’s dive into the Sundering and what the game’s director says about her difficult decision.
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You missed the most important part of the sundering. It made everyone mortal
It’s never really easy to justify or dismiss what is essentially an impossible choice. It was in the long run the best choice she could make under the circumstances despite the amount of pain she knew the worlds and the lives on them would suffer.
If anything, it’s not entirely a conclusion for her rather than her struggle. She can let go and find rest. She’s fulfilled her purpose. And if the time ever comes, she could come back, but as someone new. Her influence will ever remain even if we continue the journey of XIV without her. So it’s more a conclusion of her struggle and conflict than her end. The journey never ends. And I think that’s a wonderful sentiment.
She committed mass genocide against her own race. The majority disagreed and she enforced her supreme will upon them because she was so insanely arrogant as to think she knew better than everyone else.
Venat is a monster worse than Emet Selch. At least he didn't turn against his own people.
Hermes is such a neurotic POS. Doesn’t matter if he had good intentions, he practically destroyed the world.
I'm kind of baffled that people are so staunchly anti-Venat for mass genocide (or at least death of identity), but pro-Emet-Selch who wanted to commit a larger amount of mass genocide across multiple worlds.
I thought time travel in XIV was the same as time travel in Avengers Endgame. Where your actions in the past don’t effect the present you come from it just creates an alternate timeline that exists parallel to yours
I still kinda feel like the sundering was unnecessary
If they’re soooo desperate to repopulate the ancient race, why not start procreating? Why not create technology that would allow them to artificially repopulate like the kryptonions did in Man of Steel?
They have options that don’t involve mass genocide or involuntary sacrifice to Zodiark.
I get that the convocation was fully tempered by Zodiark at this point so the call for sacrifice was more of Zodiark speaking through them.
Sometimes the only choices you'll have in life are bad ones, but you still have to choose.
It's difficult and nearly impossible to answer. Such a question isn't so black and white. It's Grey with ALOT of room for justifications and dismissals,but one thing is true. If Venat hadn't sundered the star then we would not be here now to face metion and save all of reality as we know it from oblivion.
I want to bring a couple facts to light. I don't know if these have mentioned, but the warrior of light tells Venat about the sundering. The warrior tells Venat of the fall of Zodiark. The warrior even goes so far as to tell Venat about the 14 reflections. While Venat did not know if they would succeed, She knew all she had to endure would come to fruition when a reflection of Azem looking exactly like the Azem of old came to Hydalyn. Since the warrior could not give an exact timeline, Venat had to fill in the pieces. She had a hard line to carry, but she knew that her struggles would lead to the first meeting. I think that gave her the continued hope to endure to the point of endwalker.
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. The ancients would have destroyed themselves if she hadn’t intervened. Sundered is better than extinct. It also gave them the ability they needed to beat the ultimate despair. You can’t fight dynamis with aether. If choosing between certain death for all, and death for many with the possibility of it ending the final days for the rest, I know which one I would go for.
Ah the XIII music at the start fits so well with Hydaelyn
I commented about what you said at 13:20 in a previous video, guess Yoship agrees / that was the intended interpretation of the story
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I loved it! Thanks for framing it so that Hydaelyn and. Venat were separate entities. It's so easy to get.confused by the way things were presented during Venat's walk montage in the middle of EW. This vid helped tie up the details we got from ShB to the details we received in EW.I understand it much better now. Nicely done!
She suffered as much as Emet. Was it a Just decision? It’s a complicated thing, but what matters, like Emet, what was her reasoning behind it. Like Emet, Venat did it for a good cause and loved the people and life and carried a very heavy burden on what she did. Emet same thing, but carried the burden on losing his loved ones and trying to get them back. I was really REALLY afraid that maybe she’ll be a villain due to her being a primal, but no. After hearing her side of the story, she was very caring. The tribesmen that was made by her, the Loporrits, share that same affection and want to help.
Venat echoes my deepest conviction, one ive held since i was a child in fact. People. They always find a way forward, no matter the dire circumstances, no matter the terror inflicted upon them. As a rule i loathe humanity and what its become, but that doesnt stop me believing we can all be better, even if we slip and fall along the way, our potential is truly limitless.
Venat's mentality is basically Nietzsche 101 (honestly a lot of his ideas permeate Endwalker as a whole). In comfort and safety, you find indolence and stop growing. The reality is the Ancient's issue wasn't their power, is was their inability to cope with suffering and struggle. Their lives had been perfect and at relative peace for such a millennia that the Ancients didn't have to learn how to cope with any sort of conflict. So when it came to their doorstep, their solution wasn't to fight it, it was to avoid it.
Zodiark's greatest sin wasn't the fact he was evil, it was the fact he was a superpowered bandaid for a much larger problem that needed to be dealt with at its core. But the Ancients didn't want to do that; they just wanted to stop their suffering as expediently as possible, to the point they were willing to literally sacrifice each other rather than overcome their despair, let alone figure out the source of Meteion's song and put an end to it wholesale. Not only that, but when they paid the price to stop the damage, they refused to accept THAT price and sought to LITERALLY UNDO the sacrifices they made.
Venat realised the Ancients were so incapable of coping with suffering, that the only solution was to force them into a reality where they were MADE to suffer. For without being tempered to suffering, not only did they have no chance of overcoming the Final Days, but they would meet the fates of civilisations like the Ea and the Plenty, who became so consumed by their naval gazing in relative perfection they lost sight of meaning.
I honestly postulate that Alexander was created by Venat herself. That in order to keep the timeloop stable there needed to be a way for the WoL to interact with her in the past. This also makes sense that Venats ability is quite possibly time related as she was the first to reconize you as being from the future. So Alexander was created and held in secret. That is until it was found out either by happenstance or purpose by the convocation that renamed itself the ascians. Even in the Alexander storyline there's a part where the au'ra couple meet up within Alexander. He tells her about all the calculations and at the end it's the orders of his mistress that the fate of thr star falls unto the WoL.
Venat is Mommy
NOT IF Venat IS really gone ………………….
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Hydaelyn's story was well concluded in EW. And it entirely changed the context of the song Answers.
About her sundering everything, it did enable their heirs, intentionally or not, to manipulate Dynamis (apparently our Limit Breaks are powered by Dynamis), making us the perfect species to fight against Meteion.
Was it revealed why she did not sunder the 3 unsundered Ascians? Was it her choice to leave those 3, who in turn decided to undo the sundering, or was it because those 3 could not be sundered in the first place? I haven't done the new raids so my apologies if it were already explained there.