Astrologian used to play VERY differently than it does today. Let’s discuss it.
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i loved the card system in heavensward but hated it in stormblood. mainly because of sleeve draw killing any chaNCE OF EVER USING SINGLE TARGET CARDS
I think it would be nice to have more choice, I'll be honest and say I probably wouldn't like the old last very much, seems too complicated for me
All the set up and executing it gave me such euphoria, you can imagine my dismay when they simplified it 😭
I mained astro until they changed it, then never touched it again. I miss it.
I do miss some of the versatility but let’s be honest, outside of Bole, everything was a way to increase damage and we definitely had dead cards. Now I never feel like a card is a waste no matter what I draw so I don’t feel like RNGeesus is giving me the finger every thirty seconds.
Man, stuff like Time Dilation was so cool. Celestial Opposition worked on sprint as well, so I'd use it in town. 😛 This made me a bit sad, I had actually forgotten some of the cool things and remembered why I was so upset with the changes. Not saying they should return the cards to what they were (not really making progress then), but they need to bring back the individuality of each card.
Each card use to evoke a different emotional response from me but now I literally use ACT to tell me whether it's blue, yellow, or red, and if it's for melee or ranged; I don't actually look at the cards or know what each card does anymore, nor do I even care, I'm just playing match 3 and wack-a-mole. lol No longer can I grace someone in a dungeon with 15% damage buff for 55 seconds, I miss that feeling along with caring about what card I might draw.
Still bummed out about the changes. It’s put me in a pessimistic outlook on my future as an AST main. This expansion is the least I’ve played ever.
I miss rezzing my co-healer and giving them an ewer with time dilation. It’s like your child fell on the floor crying and you picked them up, dusted them off, wiped away their tears and kissed them on the forehead. Call me mother.
Also skilled ASTs will know how to utilize all their cards
I miss the old card system… :<
Man All I can say is this. Old Astrologian was probably too complex. It played like a card game such as Yugioh and that is both a good and bad thing. It's so heavily luck reliant on you drawing the card you need that the highs were so high but the lows were also very low. That kind of gameplay is just not sustainable in the long run.
Though I would like to see the sun, moon and twilight cards get more effects. Give us diversity yes but keep what Shadowbringers brought because Dmg up is a good first step. What if that was just for sun only cards. What if the moon increased defense instead and twilight gave you an MP Regen up. this is the right kind of diversity I feel and wouldn't make the class that complex to play.
I'm hoping the coming healer redefinition and rebalance puts some pepper in to the role, especially giving us more interesting dps and support options.
I miss the old Astrologian; it was so much more fun to play back then. T_T, For me, it made a great alternative to playing White Mage all the time, and I never felt like I was just sitting around waiting for something to happen. I was always busy! And I loved that part about Astro.
Hopefully we aren't overhyping SGE (Sage). I'd hate to see yet another healer released with unique skills and talents only for it to be form-fitted later on like SCH and AST were to WHM. Then again, I might not mind a remodeled SCH. Who needs a grimoire or a fairy when you do the job of both, yourself?! o.o Gundam-style egi, anyone? Wait, isn't that just a reskinned WHM again?!!!?11
More of these please! There's a need for discourse on the differences between gameplay and systems!
Astro and dancer changes in Endwalker is what I’m looking forward to the most along with the two new jobs
I miss old astro so much farewell sweet prince
Ohhh man I remember the forums and Reddit being set on fire from angry Astro players when the card changes happened. I was one of the angry people but given time I realized I only had the illusion of choice and would only fish for the royal road spread on a balance/spear. I rarely used anything else . I’m still salty about time dilation and celestial opposition though. I haven’t played Astro since the start of Shadowbringers and decided to play it in one dungeon yesterday and found myself using muscle memory for the balance fish into a celestial opposition then got sad
Nothing was more fun than giving a haste to BLM or MNK and watch them rage
Let’s hope that in end walker they will actually give diversity to the healers this time.
Gonna be annoying, so pleth-aura. Vs pleth-ah-ruh.
Second one please.
I played AST during that era, and while it is true, pulling a double AoE balance with extended duration did feel amazing. Or putting a 45s +15% dps (balance boosted or arrow for BLM) also felt great (like leyline+15%arrow on BLM was kinda fun)
it has way more cons than pros.
First, your rdps was drastically different from one run to another. With only one redraw, let me tell you the prepull preparation was tedious (gotta pull with that AOE balance)
Yes, Ewer and Bole were life saving so long as they appeared at the perfect time (after your coheal death or for extremely hard hitting mech, looking at your HelloWorld)
But when did that happen? How many time did I get the Bole when nothing dangerous was coming and instead had AOEarrow when an AoE Bole could have actually been 10x more helpful.
The answer is, rarely. Yes, when it happened, it felt great! When you're doing that hellish mech that tears through your roster with so many hard hitting AoE, 30s of -10% dmg taken was game changing, it truly was. When your coheal died right after using their mp tool, yes an enhanced Ewer was a game changer. So were perfect AoE balance throughout the raid.
But that's the thing, it wasn't consistent, 95% of the time, utility was useless, so you were only fishing for dps cards. The effect of those cards wasn't consistent, AoE arrow was actually a nuisance to some job as it made their rotation drift. (Never have the same gcd at the same time). In the end, all we wanted was Balance, more balance and always more Balance.
The meta was pulling as many balance as possible, all the time, forever.
Comes ShB, we get "all cards are tiny balance" (and tbh that nerf was well deserved… it was WAY too powerful, the rdps contribution from OS12 was almost as high as what we currently grant (1-1.5k rdps) during perfect card draw… except that 1000rdps now and back then isn't the same.
I wouldn't mind cards being slightly stronger (individual cards), it is true that they feel rather "meh" atm. Boosting cards to 10% and crown to 15% wouldn't break anything (it would basically be a bit better than having twice as many cards), and the individual cards don't account for "that much" in term of rdps contribution and you can always nerf the AST personal dps to compensate. In the end, the one thing that truly matters is the rdps.
i really miss the Old system, i still main AST as my heal Role.
i miss the old card effects so much D: and i miss royal road/time dilation even more. oof i used to love ast till they made lots of changes XD
If you knew the fight, every card had a purpose. Ewer and Spire less so, but even those cards allowed your DPS to go ham for a few seconds without having to manage their resources. I used every card for every situation on every class; there were no useless cards in my eyes, thus, I never simply fished for Balance or immediately Royal Roaded the Spire/Ewer. Damn, what a massive loss, and I doubt we'll ever get the old system back, or at least a similar system.
Does anyone remember fey wind and Aoe arrow back in those days? That was an awesome combo that I miss, ahhhh my heart breaks on the
Astro changes 😭
I miss the old cards, and people who only used balance were either solely doing savage content or just didn’t know how to use the other cards.
Ohhhhh shiiit all this time I thought spear reduces cooldown times and been using it on myself/tank when I/they popped lots of cooldowns 🤣🤣🤣
I’m new to ffxiv and only started playing it yesterday. I thought astroligan looked really interesting so once I met the requirements I was going to change to astroligan. Is it still worth to play it with all these changes?