I was invited by Square Enix to check out FFXIV Dawntrail early, and here’s how SCH is changing as well as what I think it means for the future of the job!
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0:00 Intro
1:13 New Skills
3:15 More Info & My Thoughts
5:55 Tooltips
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For being the HW capstone for SCH, Dissipation is very underwhelming of a healing buff. You lose your fairy and all its utility and get a moderate healing gcd buff and full Aetherflow. For prog, I don't think I've ever hit Dissipation for healing purposes. I also feel that Fey Union and Summon Seraph are just better at healing. Fey Union upgrades Eos's heal from 200 to 500 in exchange for focusing it on one target while Seraph's heals all give a shield and it has an aoe ogcd heal/shield. I fear that the only thing Dissipation is used for is parsing, since it gives 3 more uses of Energy Drain. I think they should rework Dissipation.
why is a shield healer's pinnacle ability focused on resto healing?….
Scholar getting 6.7 AF/minute over sage's 4.2 Is crazy
I could totally see Seraphism getting an upgrade down the line into something like Invoke Titania or something.
as scholar main…. I AM DAMN HAPPY ABOUT THIS!!!! HELL YEAH!!!!! FCK DAMAGE! I WILL MAKE EVERYONE IMMORTAL AND THEY CAN DO THE DAMAGE FOR ME! INCLUDING THE OTHER HEALER!!! i see this as an absolute win.
I loved the new stuff, but WHY IS DISSIPATION STILL THE SAME ??? T^T
Ooooh, I might not be playing painter through dawntrail. Scholar's looking very nice.
Such a shit show seraphism is a joke
Ngl, those changes are fire. I really don't like Seraphism's look but it is what it is for getting such a good ability, I guess.
I wish they'd decide on the job identity for sch instead of just slapping literally whatever on them, even if it works. Sure, Seraphism may be strong, but it has nothing to do with Scholar, it's a White Mage themed ability if anything.
seraphism is going to be crazy for prog. they better design some absolute bullshit in the eden ultimate so i get to be silly with it
Can we just delete Dissapation already. Why is it still in the game? It’s like old cleric stance, we got rid of it for a reason
yeah just play sage at this point
my 2 things. for scholar.
1. seraphism is cool and i like it my only worry is the mana costs being the same despite it feeling like something you want to spam.
2. dissipation is just a weird skill for scholars kit and im confused on its purpose. we use it for energy drain spam, but it wants to be used like a emergency heal button thing but idk. Seraphism feels like the better version of dissipation and i just want to see it changed.
To think my first healer ever got such a drastic change for the better… damn. A lot has changed since 8 years ago. Healers are honestly looking so good so far.
I’m very unsurprised by Seraphism.
One reason: SCH is the one healer that can’t solo heal through both Zeromus’s Abyssal Nox and also handle Sable Thread.
SGE: Abyssal Nox – Zoe+Pneuma, Ixochole, Kerachole, Pepsis pre-E.Prog, with Prognosis spam. Sable Threaf – Panhaima and Kerachole + E.Prog spam solo.
Like it’s really unfair how easily SGE can sleep through Zeromus (and so much other content).
WHM: Cure III spam for Abyssal Nox. Liturgy of the Bell, Temperance, Asylum, and Medica II for Sable Thread.
AST: Macrocosmo + Earthly Star for Abyssal Nox. Collective Unconscious, Celestial Opposition, Neutral Sect and Aspected Helios spam.
SCH: I’ve tried, but they just don’t have enough pure healing throughput to handle Abyssal Nox while also trying to handle Sable Thread in Zeromus EX.
I’m glad you like the change, but a lot of this feels like horrible design and almost spiteful hatred for SCH players from whichever dev is working on them.
I mean for me dissipation is more like everything else failed button like a last ditch effort if people are just taking way too much damage that it drained all of your other resources (cuz it can happend in raids that people just take too much damage some times)
Eh, all the power of Seraphism doesn't change the fact that I really really dislike the transformation part of it, so I'll actually be avoiding level 100 content with it so I won't have to use it.
The scholar changes just look so interesting and I'm very intrigued to play it.
How come noone’s talking about the fact that healers will be spamming the same dps spell animation they have the past 2 years, for another 2 years? Glare, broil etc. Upgrades were expansion staples and now scholar and astro will be spamming those same animations with….. one tiny new animation once every TWO MINUTES. That’s so boring man
Wake me up when they bring back Shadowflare ;w;
yeah; still not feeling that weird angel bath robe form. Could they not have come up with something cooler/more on brand for SCH?
also still strange to tie our new AoE DoT behind Chain Strategem. Makes me wonder if they decided to do that because they were looking at its usage in dungeons and thought they could get players to use it on more than just bosses?
You can tell how many healers here never even saw a reaper in their life when they're all complaining about the visual change you to your character. It's such a non issue lmao no one cares how you look when you're supposed to be doing mechanics
Half of the media tour takes ive heard are "I hated scholar and now I hate it more" and the other half are "I love scholar and now I love it more". This is the kind of job identity pushing they'll be doing in 8.0, please look forward to it 😊
Seraphism look broken, feel like it s gonna be nerf.
Also love the transformation look really cool to become god for 20sec
this all feels like some nice QoL improvements for Sch, without losing the strategist vibe that the class seems to be focused on. I still wish I could have a dummy "oh shit" heal or shield right up front the way the other classes feel like they have, but seraphism does a lot for us and our shields already do so much. I like seeing slightly more variety in our DPS, too. I don't think this would have been my choice of design direction, but I feel less forgotten than I did as a sch main in EW.
I'm interested to see if they will EVER change how Dissipation works. Its my biggest gripe about SCH and Ive been playing it since HW. The issues with Dissipation only get compounded when they add more and more skilles based around the fairy. Not to mention, there are STILL issues with fairy responsiveness and dropped abilities between Serpah>Eos and vice versa. With DT, we are now at… what… 6? Abilities that we lose every time we hit Dissipation? Not to mention the lack of fairy gauge earned and no Embraces for the whole 30 seconds of Dissipation buff. I might enjoy the 20% healing buff, but when like half of my kit is locked, it feels more like a gamble in prog than an asset. It feels worse to use in places like Ultimates because instead, I have to painfully work around it rather than feeling it's another tool in my arsenal. Sorry for the rant, but you're the only video I've seen that addressed any of these issues. 😢
As someone that raided as SCH as the main on one of my characters, I… uh…. Just don't have dissipation on my bar. At all. Ever.
I am well aware for parsing and such it is a pure dps loss, but I REFUSE to eat my Fairy. The fairy stays at ALL TIMES with me. It's just how I am with the job.
On the flip note: I… also never have used Recitation outside of Deployment except in 4-man dungeons. It'll be interesting to see how it works out in the raids if the lower CD will matter for me at all. That said, a lot of what I am seeing makes me feel it is a 4-man focused changes to the job, more than the raiding scene as a whole. Baneful just screams 'Make the SCH use chain during Trash, and not just sit on it till the next boss' Recitations lower CD just makes me feel like they want you to more easily shield the tank prior to each pack of mobs.
Seraphism I like in concept. However, I am the type to see it more as a 'oh shit, time to bandaid' rather than a proper skill for any point in a fight. Emergency Tactics is already a nearly dead button for me, I am sure I only really used it during P3S for the healer check. I see Seraphism possibly enabling a bit more of mechanics like P10S HH, which I would not mind seeing heavy damage output. That said, we've gotten better bandaid tools before and had few times to make them shine.
That said, that could all boil down to just how I enjoy SCH. I love focusing on the shields and the like over the entire raid. I am piss-poor at reacting to the unexpected. As I prog a fight, I start setting in stone when and where I use oGCDs, when I swift out a succor, etc. I literally get caught completely off guard if during regular mechanics the other healer or someone dies and start flailing about in confusion a bit. XD (I am certainly not a great healer, just a passable for the fights.)
It'll be interesting to see how the new expansion pushes healing, or if it'll be same ol' same ol'.
Dissipation is still in the kit. And the jump rope is still the only way to use your gauge? … Why?