I QUIT SAGE!? MY Jedi Gundam healer with actual medical terms as a healer with my favorite lore!? GET OUTTA HERE! SAGE IS MINE! Sage is actually one of my favorite healers even though you haven’t seen much play of it. I LOVE the Sage. But it has a few very glaring problems. Let’s define those clearly in this video.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Why I haven’t been playing Sage
0:25 NO I HAVE NOT QUIT SAGE
0:53 Mouseover Macros For Sage
3:16 Icarus is not good
5:41 Icarus Rework please
6:42 Expedient is not on Sage
7:53 RANGE RANGE RANGE RANGE RANGE
9:41 BARRIER SIZE DOES MATTER
12:06 Sage Barrier Zoe Rework
12:53 Toxikon is just not great
13:33 Toxikon Rework
15:25 Eukrasia feels sticky
16:21 Concluding statements
Have I quit Sage for good? Is Sage just bad? I’ve been asked a bunch of times now on why I haven’t been playing Sage quite as much as Scholar and I’ve decided why not just answer that?
Hey guys it’s your boi Cole and no I have not quit the sage. No I do not think it’s inferior overall but there are some key points of pain that Scholar directly addresses that matters a whole lot to me.
First off I have made a video now talking about world of warcraft’s addons specifically that there are mouseover macros that allow you to volley out a ton of skills. Sage would be a prime massive candidate to benefit from this– if not the number one candidate alongside Astrologian.
To be clear addons in 14 are against TOS as stated by Yoshi P. So let’s not get too crazy here guys.
But people will argue but mouseover macros are already a thing, and my rebuttal to that is not really. Macros suffer tremendous drawbacks and the number one thing is that they do not queue, yes yes delay whatever but my main gripe is they do not queue which makes it so that in the heat of the moment as I’m casting say Dosis on Sage I can’t Kardia swap instead now I need to manage to cram the mouse command and animation into that block of time. It’s janky, it’s not that great and sadly lead to me abandoning mouse over macros.
Obviously this extends to all skills, and all healers can benefit from it.
This gets into my problems with Icarus.
Anyone else remember Mercy from Overwatch and one of the main problems that still exists to this day is that she is completely dependent on her team mates positioning? Yeah, in FFXIV that feeling strikes a chord with me with Icarus and with extremely precise positioning for many mechanics a team member even delaying their movement to the last second for uptime can mean Icarus is a worthless ability.
And this is, unfortunately yet again, another instance where mouseover macros being snappy and responsive and queuing would pay off tremendously.
And yes don’t get me wrong, mobility abilities feel awesome and I’ve used this to great effect at times. But it’s very significantly difficult to use effectively, most of the time I’ve found myself better off just relying on my own movement such as P3S with the snapshots when I was progging it was a major cause of me taking a damage down for no good reason other than I wanted to keep casting dosis and use Icarus. Obviously that was not amusing people so I eventually just gave up and walked myself.
This skill would honestly be better served if it was reworked to function exactly as it does today, but also allow ground targeting like Ninja’s Shukuchi ability which I’ve used personally to tremendously great effect especially now with the doubletap and not allowing the marker to extend beyond the maximum allowable radius. This would be a fantastic rework to Icarus.
But compare this to expedient now for the next pain point I have. Expedient. Please hear me out before you start to take out the guillotine — I think that having unique not homogenized aspects of kits is a great thing. I think we currently face a problem where everything is so homogenized that this kind of thing does become a problem.
Expedient even with it’s duration halved is still undeniably one of the most effective tools for progression one can have. I’m not going to explain why 10 seconds of mobility on a controlled 2 minute cooldown timer is effective because frankly that’s insulting everyone’s intelligence. I’m still amazed before Endwalker was launched people dumped on this skill. I said it then and I say it now– this skill is excellent for progression.
Which is my number one reason you haven’t seen me much on Sage. Yes, expedient. Number one reason above all others.
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You can take my light saber wielding Jedi Gundam healer away from my cold dead grubby catdaddy hands. (I'm actually a Sith lawl) ITS MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got jebaited!
People really downplay the range problem. Said this way. If you are max melee on the boss, and everyone is in clock position, then you can't reach at least 3 people on the other side. 15 yalms isn't large enough to reach trough the boss. I've had it happen often that my mits don't reach the tank when a raid wide goes out.
I’d love to know the background track you’re using in your vids is. I want to fall asleep to it. 🙂
If they made every movment ability like reapers teleport and dancers en avant the issues to all jobs would be solved no more mo or macros…they should slowly change the skills to be more action combat based and start implementing i-frames, especially for gap closers dashes and teleports imo!
That's why I cannot agree with people saying Sage is a Barrier Healer, it is more of a Variety Healer, kinda a mix of both Pure and Barrier.
Thats why Scholar + Sage is such a strong combo: its not Barrier + Barrier, but Barrier + Variety
Also why I want the stances from AST back please, we don't have a real 2 Pure 2 Barrier Spread through the healers in this game
Not to go against what you said with mouse over macroes but I 100% all of my healers with mouse over. The only spells that are not mouseover are my damage spells because I never change target from the boss. If you want my Macroes I can share but I started on my AST last tier and made the full swap to the rest of my healers. With no issue. There really isn’t a delay and I clutch oGCD heal every fight if people are in my range. And I high parse outside of barse parties except for p4s lol
When it comes to toxikon, I try to use all charges before downtime, and then during downtime, I chuck out a bunch of euk diags for more toxikons. specifically for p2s, I use all 6 toxikons quite comfortably with all of the potential movement through that fight. otherwise I never use euk diag with how the fights are made. It doesn't really call for it. a lot of the similar skills that sage has compared to sch doesn't feel like it meshes with their kit in an interesting way, unlike sch which you can recite, spread, and buff the heal in a variety of ways. All the while, buffing the heal of adlo synergizes with your ability to spread it. Sge has the bare minimum of that in the form of zoe. The biggest thing sge has over sch right now is the fact that you want to shit out healing at all opportunities with ur addersgall, whereas with sch, it's a dps loss, and dps is the most important metric in raid. Only surpassed by greeding your party to death. Sge just feels… very plain to me… Although I'm somewhat okay with that, it would be nice if there were options for higher complexity that doesn't mess with the skill floor too much. I main whm, the most basic of all healers, and sge feels comfy to me at least. Sch requires more work and I feel bad when I'm not using energy drain. Also since sch's dmg is spread through chain stratagem, their damage is also semi reliant on the party, where as the pure damage healers don't care about the party's performance.
of course sage's shields arejt as bwefy. theyre instant cast amd get backed up by mitigations out the butt active at all times. its a fair trade off
You must live very far away from server for <mo> macros not to work optimally, lmao. Cause I've had zero issues.
I’m pretty sure there’s an option to turn on mouse over targeting somewhere in the settings.
Learning Sage now. The range is very smol. This isn’t what we meant by melee healer.
I’m glad to see you have more fun in your videos! Keep doing what you enjoy and don’t apologize for being you. 🙂